T-rump's high coronary calcium score = heart disease - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Okay, okay, we get it DoggieMan, your fondest wish is for President Trump to just drop dead! But your own anger, resentment and bitterness may be the death of you first.

Funny how you were never concerned with Hillary's coughing spells, her collapse which caused her aides to drag her off like a bag of wet wash into her van, her falls and head trauma, etc.

Can you get any more nasty? For all that I wanted Pres. Obama's socialist policies to FAIL, I never wished the same thing on his heart.

Really, I worry about your mental health. You need to relocate to a state with legalized pot (if you aren't there already) and just chill out before your head explodes.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

"Okay, okay, we get it DoggieMan, your fondest wish is for President Trump to just drop dead! But your own anger, resentment and bitterness may be the death of you first.

Funny how you were never concerned with Hillary's coughing spells, her collapse which caused her aides to drag her off like a bag of wet wash into her van, her falls and head trauma, etc.

Can you get any more nasty? For all that I wanted Pres. Obama's socialist policies to FAIL, I never wished the same thing on his heart.

Really, I worry about your mental health. You need to relocate to a state with legalized pot (if you aren't there already) and just chill out before your head explodes."

You are a complete lunatic.

No where in my post did I say anything which I 'wished' for T-rump - far from it. I reported on the facts which D.r Gupta related to his audience yesterday, after having an extensive conversation with Dr. Jackson. No where in the post did I 'wish' or 'insinuate' anything - I quoted Gupta directly from his CNN report.

Looks like you are projecting your own horrible and evil wishes into my post.

And remember: Hillary lost, T-rump won.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Oh I always remember Hillary LOST! One of the greatest events of the 21st century.

YOU are a "complete" clueless wonder!!!! Dr. Gupta is not the President's physician. But CNN was happy to trot him out to make scary claims about Trump. He, along with those flaky psychiatrists who declared the President "mentally unfit" are acting in a totally unethical fashion.

Nowhere in my post DID I say that YOU "wished" anything. However your wishes and desires regarding Pres. Trump have been made abundantly clear through the numerous hateful threads which you have started since the year before the election.

Now go on and pretend you aren't cackling and rubbing those little bony hands of yours together in gleeful hope that the President is in ill health.

I do have an astigmatism and need corrective lenses, but it doesn't mean that I don't SEE through your hateful bullsh@#!

Gee, I didn't know you were "so concerned" for the President's health. Sorry it bothers you that I call you out on your crap.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

You complete moron, did you not say this ?:

"Okay, okay, we get it DoggieMan, your fondest wish is for President Trump to just drop dead! But your own anger, resentment and bitterness may be the death of you first."

Now you are going to say you didn't say that?

"However your wishes and desires regarding Pres. Trump have been made abundantly clear through the numerous hateful threads which you have started since the year before the election.

Now go on and pretend you aren't cackling and rubbing those little bony hands of yours together in gleeful hope that the President is in ill health."

You're in way over your head when you try to figure out what others are thinking or hoping - way over your head. You have no idea what you're talking about.

" Dr. Gupta is not the President's physician. But CNN was happy to trot him out to make scary claims about Trump. "

Gupta never said he was T-rump's physician. He did say he saw the test results which Jackson offered him, and he had a lengthy in-depth conversation with Jackson, to which Jackson agreed T-rump has heart disease.

I believe Gupta much more than I do Sara Huckabee or anyone at FOX NEWS.

"Gee, I didn't know you were "so concerned" for the President's health. "

Now you do. There's much you don't know about me, which is why it makes you look so stupid trying to insinuate what I 'wish' for and 'hope' for in my posts.

"Sorry it bothers you that I call you out on your crap."

LOL! OK...

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Well OF COURSE you trust Dr. Gupta more than the President's own Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders! LOL After all HE never met the President and he was on CNN ( aka, the Clinton News Network) and Mrs. Sanders only has daily access to Pres. Trump.

I am truly sorry (no sarcasm intended) if you are seriously concerned for the President's health.

But gosh, golly, gee, can you NOT understand where my skepticism comes from considering you have called him T-rump, Trumpster and other "clever" insults like the "orange man",etc?

You have not expressed one moment's respect for him. But NOW you are "concerned" for his health?? You haven't posted anything but hateful stuff about Donald Trump for well over a year.

If Presidential health was your concern, well I don't recall you starting a thread about Hillary Clinton's coughing fits or her well publicized collapse at a rally where she had to be dragged off to her waiting van/ambulance. No threads started by you about Hillary's bizarre almost epileptic like behavior, her head bobbing and weaving.

But now you are concerned with the President's health. Oh go try and shop your story it to someone who believes your nonsense. Maybe Rachel Maddow will have you on her show.

You really are amusing in the way you say one thing and pretend to mean another.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Gupta never said he was T-rump's physician. He did say he saw the test results which Jackson offered him, and he had a lengthy in-depth conversation with Jackson, to which Jackson agreed T-rump has heart disease.

If that were true Gupta will loose his medical license at the very least for violating HIPA. Seeing a doctor willingly do this hurts their credability as well as CNN if they willingly ran that report.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

HIPA wasn't violated for a number of reasons:

Jackson publicly discussed T-rump's medical check-up on Friday and then in detail on Tuesday for the media (which Gupta attended).

The discussion he had with Gupta about the results was not 'confidential' or 'off the record' - Gupta was there for a CNN report.

So he had the permission from the doc, who already made the results public (which he had to get T-rump's permission to do). IF T-rump did not give Jackson permission to go forward and discuss his physical publicly, then the one who violated HIPA is Jackson and no one else.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Any one else in those [ublic meetings to back up gupta?

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I don't know. I do know he said he had a one-on-one conversation with Jackson for his CNN report.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Yea I'm sorry I just don't believe this story. You can't just violate hipa by releasing information second hand and "giving permission". This story is based on second hand information from a doctor thats already acting unethicaly.

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

CNN has upgraded from Fake News to Fake Medicine.

A calcium score is just one data point indicating the likelihood of coronary artery disease. In the absence of other data, you could claim that a score of 133 is evidence of likely, but not certain, mild CAD. But when that score is supplemented by data from a battery of other tests, including specific cardiac function testing like the stress echocardiogram that was administered to the President, ignoring the supplementary data and making the statement that Gupta made is unprofessional.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

There was other data included in this.

His HDL was low while his LDL was high, which is why he is on statin drugs. High LDL with a high calcium score -plus his being overweight/obese and not having a good diet - is not good, and makes the patient vulnerable to cardiac issues. So yes, he has heart disease.

I think Gupta was very professional deciding to present this to the audience, and making them more aware of cardiac problems and different metrics in diagnosing such. I, myself, have never had a Calcium Score done, but I think I should request one at this year's physical to have a base line going forward. I think Gupta (via T-rump's doctor visit) has enlightened many people.

Otherwise, we would be under the false impression that being overweight, not exercising, and being on a fast-food diet at the age of 71 constitutes 'great health'. Not the case at all.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Your Calcium Score? LOLOL Doggie, have them check for an I.Q.!!

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

Making general statements about fitness and good health is perfectly fine. Making your own diagnosis of a patient who you never examined is whoring yourself out for a sound bite.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I disagree. I think it was better that he made specific statements and a diagnosis by using T-rump's test scores (after conferring with his personal physician for this segment) to educate and enlighten his audience. He never misled anyone and pretended he examined T-rump himself. He conferred with the physician who did this exam, and came to his conclusions (which Jackson later agreed) based on facts and the tests given.

Making 'general statements' just doesn't have the same impact, and he would still have gotten a soundbite. Leave the general statements to Sara Huckabee and his other minions, who don't have any medical expertise.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

CNN has upgraded from Fake News to Fake Medicine.

A calcium score is just one data point indicating the likelihood of coronary artery disease. In the absence of other data, you could claim that a score of 133 is evidence of likely, but not certain, mild CAD. But when that score is supplemented by data from a battery of other tests, including specific cardiac function testing like the stress echocardiogram that was administered to the President, ignoring the supplementary data and making the statement that Gupta made is unprofessional.

The fact that a doctor would publicly disclose this information (HIPA violation) leads me to believe that its horse shit already. I don't normally cry fake news but CNN has to be aware of the HIPA protocols.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Jackson has to be aware of the HIPA protocol - he's T-rump's physician. Once he talks in public, it becomes public knowledge.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Not that I mind the medical reports but if Trump didn't want to reports to come out then some one violated the HIPA conventions by releasing the reports. I'm not sure I believe a competent would do this, HIPA laws are pretty strict. I don't normally parrot cries of Fake news but your FAUX News statement above doesn't help us to take your claim seriously.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I'm sure T-rump gave Jackson permission to talk about his physical exam in public, otherwise Jackson is in a lot of trouble for violating HIPA. Gupta and any other physician who comments on the results (which have been made public) are not in violation of anything.

Once a patient - any patient - signs off on releases, there is no violation of HIPA.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Trumps an idiot if he really did that. Kinda puts the whole "most fit presidential candidate ever" claim he said came from his doctor seem like even more bullshit. Is trump deliberatly trying to get censured and impeeched I've always suspeted trump never intended to be president but this is even weirder for a person who is too proud to resign wanting.

It kinda sucks that I get the impression he never intended to win the presidency that he was willing to sabbotage the entire GOPs chance of getting a canidate elected. During the debates he pretty much implied that he would run 3rd party if he didn't win the GOP primaries which would mean he'd divide the vote for conservatives meaning hillary would have won if he ran 3rd party. It'd be ross perot all over again. Either way trump shows he never cared for the party platform he ran on. Even now he pokes at the establishment as if he's some kind of GOP messiah. Thats 2 presidents in a row with a Messiah complex.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

You're just finding out now that T-rump is an idiot? You're jeust concluding now this egomanaic is a jackass who spreds bullshit wherever he goes?

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

You haven't seen my other posts. I've always been of the impression that trumps a a crybaby fool that doesn't know when to keep his stupid mouth shut. I've never been a supporter of trump. I say it again most republicans didn't vote for trump, they voted against Hillary.

We only voted for trump cause he for all intents and purposes hijacked the GOP primaries. We all started off with differen't candidate but like they all tumbled and collapsed like cheerleaders on ice. We hate them both but we hated Hillary even more. No matter who won 2017 was the election that America was going to loose.

I wish you'd understand that people in this country have very diverse political beliefs and that you shoulden't conclude that the GOP as a whole likes trump. His aproval rating is at 37% meaning theres a bunch of conservatives that don't favor him. Just look at the numbers before arriving at your conclusions.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Sorry - I don't buy into the 'we voted against Hillary so we voted for Trump, even if we didn't like him'. That's cowardly. If you don't like either candidate, then vote for one of the others, write someone in, or if you don't like anyone and can't think of anyone - don't vote. I have more respect for those conservatives (and independents) who didn't vote for Trump, didn't like Hillary, but made one of the latter choices.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Well thats your problem cause thats exactly what happened. Its called picking the lesser of two evils. And considering how judgemental you and the left are especially after reading your troll posts and considering I don't think much of you or your opinions I'm totally not interested in who you do or do not respect. Thats totally your problem.

And voting for trump over hillary isn't cowardly its choosing the candidate thats gonna hurt less. Kinda like choosing to cut off your fingers or remain in a crushed burning car.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

"Its called picking the lesser of two evils...And voting for trump over hillary isn't cowardly its choosing the candidate thats gonna hurt less. Kinda like choosing to cut off your fingers or remain in a crushed burning car. "

You had more than those tow as choices, as I explained earlier. No one had only two choices in 2016. Your excuse is that of a coward. And that is why we have T-rump today.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

You had more than those tow as choices, as I explained earlier. No one had only two choices in 2016. Your excuse is that of a coward. And that is why we have T-rump today.

I think I finally see the problem. Do you think I'm a coward because your pretty much believe I was backing trump the whole time and am now cowardly refusing to admit it. Ok let me explain again how this happened.

its true every one had more then two choices during the opening of the *PRIMARIES* and that most republicans backed other candidates. No one took trump serious at the begining. the 16 candidates decided to campaign against each other in a "Attack the smaller guy first" stradegy to save their financial resources. Trump on the other hand wasn't really running a campaign he just waited for the herd to thin its self out and only insulted other candidates. It was a Prisoner's dilemma Prisoner's Dilemma. Instead of ganging up on trump like they all claimed they wanted to do each candidate thought they could take advantage of the other candidates altruistic attacks on trump while they focused on the "Kill the little guy First" stradedgy. Long story short the little candidates turned on each other (Example Cruiz going after Ben Carson which resulted in Carson dropping out early and endorsing trump).

This resulted in a scenario where at the beggining trump only had around 14% of the vote but he steadily grew as the other candidates fragmented their vote.

I my self was rooting for Ted Cruiz and was really pissed off when trump pretty much in my opinion clowned his way through the GOP. He even threatened to run 3rd party if he didn't get the GOP nomination which I'm sure spooked voters into backing him for fear that he would"Ross Perot the election" by fragmenting the Conservative vote. And he took the GOP primaries. The GOP Primary vote is spread out over many months so some states never got the change to vote on the smaller candidates as they had

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

continued from above.

The GOP Primary vote is spread out over many months so some states never got the change to vote on the smaller candidates as they had dropped out by the time they got to the ballot boxes.

For me trump was an ass hole who from what I can tell wasn't even trying to get elected but wanted to give the impression that he wasn't giving up by even threating to go 3rd party. Trump has been a democrat for all his life up till around 5 years ago so no I didn't back him.

Originally I was following your logic of "Sit out the election cause I don't like the candidate". But then Hillary shoved her way though the DNC primaries. I could have sat out the election if it was Joe biden. Bernie Sanders made me nervious as I don't think our economy could survive the amount of spending and punishment he said he was going to use on enterpising businesses so I'm not sure if I would have sat the election out. But I grew up with Hillary and consider her to be pretty danm Machiavellian.

She wouden't be looking out for the countries best interests. I had concerns that her response to foreign threats would be like her husbands in which she would make symbolic moves like bombing an asprin factory which would have no effect other then "Look at our response" which combined with our "Cowardly" with drawel from mogadishu and lack of interest in the the genocide that followed in somalia there after actually emboldened the 911 attacks as bin laden declared ""The U.S. is a paper tiger".. Immediatly after the 911 attacks I saw her husband pretending to cry while he talked to george bush and even declared he regretted that 911 didn't happen on his watch. You don't get any more Machivellian then that. He might as well have said "Danm That would be a great olitical opportunity to have if I could respond to 3000 to 5000 anericans being murdered."

So I absolutely couldn’t stand the idea of Hillary in the white house. So I voted for trump.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

"So I absolutely couldn’t stand the idea of Hillary in the white house. So I voted for trump."

If you lean to the right, then - as you said - there were over a dozen other candidates in the primary. Write one of those names in if one of them was closer in your politics (and I'm sure there had to be at least one whom you liked better than T-rump).

If none of those other candidates float your boat, then choose another conservative candidate and write their name in.

If you lean to the left, then write in another candidate whom you would rather have as a President than Hillary. There were plenty.

If you liked Jill Stein or another independent candidate on the ballot - vote for that candidate.

In other words - Hillary and Trump were NOT the only two choices - we had plenty more choices if we were not happy with those two, and many people did indeed write a candidate in.

Again, to say one voted for T-rump because they didn't like Hillary (yet they didn't like Trump) is inexcusable. And IMO, cowardly. (And though I'm responding to your post - I'm talking about everyone who uses that as an excuse).

Our electoral system in America is designed for 'choice'. We are certainly not required to vote for the two candidates in the most popular parties.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

"If you lean to the right, then - as you said - there were over a dozen other candidates in the primary. Write one of those names in if one of them was closer in your politics (and I'm sure there had to be at least one whom you liked better than T-rump).

" If none of those other candidates float your boat, then choose another conservative candidate and write their name in.
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I'm assumeing your refering to the general election. What difference would that have made. A conservatives would throw their votes away micro candidate and hillary would be in the white house.

"In other words - Hillary and Trump were NOT the only two choices - we had plenty more choices if we were not happy with those two, and many people did indeed write a candidate in. "

Statistically Hillary and Trump where the only candidate that could win. Your choices are
A) vote for trump
B) vote for hillary
C) Vote for joe blow or sit out the election.

Not very many people would vote for joe blow and those that do have effectivly sat out the election as their vote won't matter as trump or hillary were gonna win anyways.

People that avoided choice C are goal oriented. People that choose C are just idealists masterbating in the ballot booth.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

People that choose C voted their conscience, and don't use a lame excuse for voting for T-rump.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Oh yeah, Doggie, you should be such an "idiot", worth billions with a gorgeous wife who doesn't wear lumpy mansuits, er, pantsuits, and who has ascended to the Presidency and doesn't spend his days envying someone else and starting endless nutball threads.

And before you remind me, yes, the President tweets a lot. I wish he wouldn't, but hey, it's not my call. Anyway, it's the only way he can explain himself when he has a hostile media to deal with every day.

Also, I will never understand which way the libs want to spin it. First, he "only" pretended to run for President and never meant to succeed. Or is it what's behind door #2? He colluded with the Russians to win? If he didn't wan to win, why all the backdoor deals?

"spreds bullsh@#?" I think's it's spelled 'spreads'! Pres. Trump gets you so upset that you forget how to spell. And what's so wrong with BS? As a Bill and Hillary supporter, that must smell like roses to you!

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

"Oh yeah, Doggie, you should be such an "idiot", worth billions with a gorgeous wife who doesn't wear lumpy mansuits, er, pantsuits, and who has ascended to the Presidency and doesn't spend his days envying someone else and starting endless nutball threads."

1. We have no idea how much he's worth - or not worth - because he has yet to disclose his taxes. What's he hiding? To believe this clown is worth billions - just because he says so - is beyond ridiculous.

2. He doesn't wear lumpy mansuits, but take a look at his lumpy golf clothes (if you dare). The guy is a disgrace. Maybe he needs to tailor his clothes better to fit that 6'3" 239 lb (LOL!) frame of his. And lose the wide-ass ties from 1975.

3. In case you've been in a coma for the past year (and from your nonsense messages I believe you have): T-rump spends his days envying Hillary Clinton and starting endless nutball tweets.

4. The President has the media to deal with every day - that's part of the job which he seems to forget. The only one calling it hostile is him; because they report what he tweets and says vebatim. What was it Kellyanne called the WH press releases last year? Oh yes - 'alternate facts'. Perfect for alternate news networks like FOX.

5. He wanted to win for his ego, he didn't want the job - he has no idea what the job entails. Just ask Manafort, Bannon, Pence, Priebus, Flynn, Spicer, Omarosa, Tillerson, Sessions, The Mooch, and of course Kelly. (The list is endless). Russia wanted him to win, as they knew he was easy to manipulate (Hillary isn't), and boy has he proved them right. (Remember - he said he believes Putin over our own intelligence agencies. What a loyal President!)

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 7 years ago

Is this part of Obamacare? You don't have to actually go to the doctor to be diagnosed?

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

You think T-rump is on Obamacare? Really?

It looks like the premium health insurance which few can afford - you can pay of your doctor to say anything positive to the public, until the truth comes out... 'alternate medical facts'.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 7 years ago

"You think T-rump is on Obamacare? Really?"

Wow. You're so fucking stupid, the joke went over your head.

The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

SO interesting, this medical phrase "Calcium score" is getting quite a workout since Donald Trump has been in office. Seriously, has anyone who is not in the medical profession or a hypochondriac even HEARD of it? Now it's all the rage when we have to decide who is "fit" to be President.

Never heard the left during the campaign year wondering about Hillary's coughing, choking spells, her head bobbing epileptic like seizures, her head injury from falling down, her collapse and subsequent stumbling and being dragged off like a dead animal to her van.

NOW, Presidential health is the most important thing on the leftard plate!

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

"SO interesting, this medical phrase "Calcium score" is getting quite a workout since Donald Trump has been in office. Seriously, has anyone who is not in the medical profession or a hypochondriac even HEARD of it? Now it's all the rage when we have to decide who is "fit" to be President."

It's called 'progressing and learning'. People (except you) learn new things every day, and when it comes to learning new medical tests and how to better your health, that's a fantastic thing. Aside from being an idiot, why do you seem so hostile about it?

"Never heard the left during the campaign year wondering about Hillary's coughing, choking spells, her head bobbing epileptic like seizures, her head injury from falling down, her collapse and subsequent stumbling and being dragged off like a dead animal to her van.

NOW, Presidential health is the most important thing on the leftard plate!"

The conservatives were so concerned about candidate Hillary's health, but now don't care about T-rump's health - and he won the Presidency. Why aren't they concerned about T-rump having heart disease? Least important thing on the right-tard plate!

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

HI there Doggiedaddy- right on schedule with a reply. You have "no interest" in what I say, but you break your neck getting to that keyboard! LOL

I wonder how long it would take you to answer me if you DID care!???

"Progressing and learning"...so that's what you call it. Oh well, call it what you want. You live in such a fantasy bubble anyway.

I am "hostile"? Where did you get hostility from my post? You are so touchy. I posed a question. Where and when in the media, CNN, MSNBC, etc, did we ever hear any concern about these particular tests until Donald Trump became President?

Actually in all honesty I was more concerned with the thought of Mrs. Clinton becoming President than I was with her health. I was hoping for one good choking spell which would take her out of the running permanently. LOL

But seriously, in the last year you have "progressed" and "learned". Ha ha!!! If anything, since I know you so well from our IMDB exchanges, I would say you are permanently stuck on stupid! LOL

President Trump has heart disease? Yikes, don't you wish. From the killer schedule he kept during the campaign, I'd say HIS heart is just fine. Too bad that breaks YOURS!

Oh and thanks again for calling me an idiot and assuming I never learn anything new. You DO know me "so well"! One thing I have learned from you is that the idiocy of the left is really hard to get through to. It's hilarious though!!

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

""Progressing and learning"...so that's what you call it. Oh well, call it what you want. You live in such a fantasy bubble anyway."

It is indeed. I don't expect you to be familiar with the concept.

"I am "hostile"? Where did you get hostility from my post? You are so touchy. I posed a question. Where and when in the media, CNN, MSNBC, etc, did we ever hear any concern about these particular tests until Donald Trump became President? "

Very hostile. Apparently, you don't understand much about learning new things. The word "Alzheimer's" was not much of the public's concern until Ronnie Reagan was rumored with it and then diagnosed in the early 90s. In the past 25+ years we have come a very long way in the diagnosing and treatment of Alzheimer's, since it has become a health concern.

"President Trump has heart disease? Yikes, don't you wish. From the killer schedule he kept during the campaign, I'd say HIS heart is just fine. Too bad that breaks YOURS!"

That's great, but that's not a medical metric. Neither is watching Hillary cough, or being carried off 'like a dead animal'. Neither is watching T-rump tremble while picking up a glass of water with two hands, or slurring his words at a press conference (which you haven't mentioned). But keep up the good work.

"Oh and thanks again for calling me an idiot and assuming I never learn anything new. You DO know me "so well"! "

Call 'em as I see 'em.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

"Call 'em as I see 'em!" Oh yes, that's you Doggie! You "see" about as well as a person with a white cane or a service dog.

Just curious, but what is a "medical metric"? Are you trying to sound smart and deep because it isn't working! If it is some new and fancy medical term, well I admit I never heard it before. But I have heard Hillary coughing and hacking like she finally had some of her biggest lies stuck in her throat.

I haven't mentioned the President "slurring his words" at a press conference because I honestly didn't hear it. Unlike you, I don't spend every minute of my day hanging on every word President Trump says.
You never started a thread when Obama said "corpsman" though. Is he suffering from dementia?

But again I must point out, you never did start a thread when Hillary Clinton almost coughed up a lung or collapsed or fell in her home and ended up with a concussion. No worries then from you.

Alzheimer's disease was quite well known for years. You may remember the Austrian Kurt Waldheim, the former Secretary General of the U.N. from 1972 to 1981. It was discovered that he had been a member of the Nazi Party, a charge he denied.
That spurred the joke that went around. "Waldheimer's disease". You get old and forget that you used to be a Nazi. It was a play on Alzheimer's disease.

Alzheimer's grew in "popularity" when it was revealed that Pres. Reagan suffered from it. Later when it was revealed that Charlton Heston suffered from it, that Hollywood a@@ George Clooney made a sick joke about it.

Only if a person is a Republican or conservative do those health concern matter to you folks on the left. And then it's only to have a gleeful, cackling laugh.

So spare me your boo-hoo tears and phony "concern" about medical conditions and your progression and learning! Well, I AM sure you finally learned to tie those shoelaces since our days at IMDB, but as for learning much else...

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Wow - you don't 'hang on the President's every word' because your life is consumed with Hillary Clinton.
My God, what did your Mother do to you that you have 'mommy issues' now? Whew!

But don't be so hostile to those who progress in life and learn each day. Just because you're stunted in life and are an imbecile doesn't mean everyone has to be like you.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Sorry little Doggie, but my life isn't "consumed with Hillary Clinton". Good grief! I'd like to forget her. But I I love to bring her up and watch your lefty knickers get in a twist when I mention her. You have no real comeback to explain her evil except your tired old "mommy issues". And again I ask, can you cite ONE post I ever started about her? You on the other hand have started endless posts about Donald Trump. Some "daddy" issues there, huh?

You have progressed in life and learn each day? Okay if you say so. But why do you sound as clueless as you did two years ago? What have you learned? Your ABCs?

"Mommy issues"? Are you joking or did a brick just fall on your head? Hillary as a "mommy"? I never entertained that thought. From what I read she only became a "mommy" to help Bill's political career. Not like she was going to "stay home and bake cookies" or sacrifice her personal ambitions for something so inconsequential as a child!

MY mother? Well you asked. My mother could work rings around Hillary. She scrimped and saved and went to work because my dad didn't make enough money. She came home from a hard factory job and cooked dinner, did laundry, cleaned, did the grocery shopping, spent time with us kids, played board games, listened to music with us, etc. She dedicated her whole life to us. She is still doing that with her grandchildren. AND... she did it all without the Arkansas state police whom Madame Hillary treated like sh#$ and expected to be her personal coolies. She did it without the Secret Service who deserted her Secretary of State detail because they couldn't put up with such a miserable b!tch.

Just shut up about my mother because you know jack sh!t about what you are talking about. Maybe we should discuss YOUR mommy and how she turned you into a gay boy!

Hostile? Again, I'm hostile? No it just appears that way to sensitive, crybaby Nancy boys like yourself.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. *yawn* Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Wow! Doggie, I underestimated how clever you could be. What a typical response from a lefty. You really are the embodiment of the "brains" and deep thought of the typical Hillary voter.

You remind me of a few posters at IMDB who did the same thing. When faced with someone that they were ill equipped to debate with, they did the whole "yawn" thing too. Okay, it's a face saving device. It's a way to pretend that you are bored when you are furious and/or embarrassed. Sorry if I was too hard on you. But I thought you could play in the big leagues. You act as if you can.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

*yawn*

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Oh wow, another "yawn" post. Such sharp and clever retorts from someone whose usual replies are to call people morons and imbeciles. Well, if you weren't a moron, you'd have a better answer than a phony "yawn". Geez, what a pissant. I thought you were tougher than that! You used to stay in there and keep fighting.

I guess this means that you finally have conceded defeat. It's actually not much fun debating you anymore. I prefer to debate with someone who can show more cleverness than one of my cats.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

*yawn*

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

I feel kinda sad. You used to be a more worthy opponent over at the IMDB board.

What happened? Did someone neuter you without your permission? I want my old "pee-ster" back. At least he had the guts to stay in the fight.

I mostly disagreed with you, but you were fun to argue with.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

No the real measure is HDL Cholestral and quick EKG reading. If they are concerned about blockage (Indicated by the EKG) they would do an echo cardiogram to see the Ejection ration and if its significantly lower the 50% they would do a heart cath to measure visualy which arteries are block and by what percentage their blocked.

I'm pretty sure the presidants health sucks but I don't believe the Gupta report.

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

They did they one better than an echocardiogram, they did a stress echo and observed no issues of concern.

"Exercise Stress Echocardiogram demonstrated above average exercise capacity based on age and sex, and normal heart rate, blood pressure, and cardiac output response to exercise. No evidence of ischemia noted and wall motion was normal in all images."

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

Yea I guess the stress test would be better at revealing any limits his heart had. Did they release the ejection fraction numbers. The actual numers that came out of the reports would be more telling and if they arn't releasing the numbers yet give the interpretationI'm a little skeptical not much but I find it odd.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

The doctor's official report also says he's 6'3" (though he's been 6'2" all his adult life according to his NY driver's license) and weighs 239 pounds a blind man can see that's not true.

Something fishy with the doctor's 'official' report (which he signed his name wrong on, too).

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

The doctor's official report also says he's 6'3" (though he's been 6'2" all his adult life according to his NY driver's license) and weighs 239 pounds a blind man can see that's not true.

Something fishy with the doctor's 'official' report (which he signed his name wrong on, too).

I totally agree. He's a fat fuck that hasn't seen 239 since college.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Which is why I believe Gupta. He owes no loyalty to T-rump, as I believe Jackson does.

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[–] crc32 (2584) 7 years ago

yea but to be fair gupta is a lefty and not impartial. I don't believe either of them.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

There was a joke in there somewhere?

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 7 years ago

Yes, dumbass. But you're too stupid to realize it.

The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Or it just wasn't a funny joke? Yeah, that's the problem. Trying to make a joke, but you had an epic fail instead. G back to doing whatever it is you do in the basement.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 7 years ago

"Or it just wasn't a funny joke?"

No, you're just stupid.

The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.

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[–] Rorikon (18395) 7 years ago

Whether this is actual or not I guess time will tell. If he dies during his last 3 years of presidency then we know the whole white house is just a corrupt government typical lying to the American people trope. If that's the case I can't trust its members and future members and will question everything they say. They did it on themselves and may turn my favor towards other countries, even Russia or China (even though they're corrupt too). Blame yourselves America, too many fucking lies with the fuckers we elect.

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[–] slimone (7996) 7 years ago

Why isn't he being given a mental test????? Oh, wait, we know. . .. he would fail it miserably!!!! Just listen to him talk! He sounds like a five year old!

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[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

According to his 'official press release', he was given a mental test which he passed. They also reported that he grew an inch at 71 years old (he's now 6'3") and only weighs 239 pounds (he's topping 300+ at least). So if you believe he's a strapping 6'3" at 239 #, you can believe he passed the 'mental agility' test.

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[–] [email protected] (6248) 7 years ago

Doggie explaining "mental agility" is like one of the Munchkins explaining how they played for the NBA.

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