It matters if it was ongoing or not. At least to me. If someone made a mistake 10 years ago, and they haven't done it since, I'm not sure they should still be losing jobs over it. Since you didn't link to a story, I don't know how many women complained, when they complained, what the company's reaction was when the complaints were first made, or what his behaviour has been in the last 10 years. In my opinion, all those things matter.
Sexual harassment in the workplace is often put up with for career progression. His bosses must have known that more women could come forward. Better to deal with this now, not later.
Yeah it sucks for him, but you gotta be squeaky clean these days.
I'm confused though. Beth was his co-host on the podcast? Did she complain or was it just people complaining on her behalf? That makes such a difference to me. My friends and I say stuff to each other that wouldn't always be appropriate in a workplace, but it doesn't bother us in the slightest. If it was Beth that was complaining then I would agree that it needs to be dealt with. If she didn't complain, and had a friendship with him that allowed for insults and if she thought they were funny, then....I don't know. I know the podcast was about The Price is Right, but if no one complained at the time, then why should people get to complain now and have something done about it? I don't know. If others do come forward then I will totally switch my position on this, but just from what I've read I don't think it was a serious offence.
If this is something that isn't serious and Beth doesn't feel like a victim then I get really annoyed at the twitter mob. Getting offended on behalf of someone who isn't offended and then destroying a career over it, makes it that much more difficult for actual victims of harassment and assault to be taken seriously.
I haven't been following this kerfuffle, but I have to ask...
Has this Beth person come forward to defend him? Because if she truly didn't mind, if she really didn't feel like a victim and held no grudge, you'd think she would.
Meh...he was a dipshit from the start and the show itself exposed its facade of "America's Game Show" being nothing more than a front for a conglomerate of slimeball culture that will exist after Mikey takes the hit for the team. #MeToo may feel emboldened but they haven't changed a fucking thing and are in fact supporters of the culture they decry. They just want to get paid for it.
He said it in a podcast, which was meant to be a behind the scenes glimpse of The Price Is Right. He should have known not to reveal his misogynistic “sense of humour”, if we can call body shaming that.
Wasn't he doing an act at a comedy club and started getting into it with some African Americans in the audience, then dropping N bombs and other racist shit?
In his podcast, he was doing schtick with his partner (Beth), just like Howard Stern (used to do) with Robin. And within the zeitgeist of the 80’s, 90’s, even early 00’s....daring, irreverent...even bad-boy humor was accepted and people laughed. You need to look at this within the context of the times, and of the podcast.
What happened here is simply...people don’t want a white male to get the gig, so they went digging...combing through everything he’s ever done...until they could find ammo to bring him down—stuff that was accepted and condoned at the time, but now can be weaponized to ruin a career.
If we’re becoming the Retroactive Behavior Accountability Police.....so puritanical and delicate that virtually EVERYTHING crosses SOMEONE’S line.....comedians...rappers...radio and talk show hosts, etc....will all be rounded-up and taken down....made to pay for the behavior they were once encouraged and celebrated for. And they will be replaced by the “Appalled Powderpuff Mafia” that wants their jobs, a big payout, or both.
More people need the guts to call this out. People with a bigger audience than Bill Maher. (Even HE treads lightly). People like Dave Chappell.....Kate McKinnon....Robin Quivers....Nikki Glaser....Gayle King....Oprah.....The View....Trevor Noah....John Stewart......Anderson Cooper....Kelly Clarkson.....
This guy went to the trouble of making derogatory variants of the word booth to describe a female coworker. Booth-slut. Booth hoe. Boothistute.
Even if it was "hilarious" to him and others, even her, it's not professional. At best it's highly immature, "locker room" talk at worst it's an insight into his sense of power and how he views and treats women.
If you take irreverent, naughty humor off the table forever, in any context, you're left with edited, homogenized, safe, puritanical, censored behavior....censored down to the lowest common sensibility. Is that the kind of world you'd like to exist in? If so, who are your favorite comedians and celebrities....because I'm pretty certain most of them will no longer be around.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Humor doesn't have to be crude or have shock value. Jokes about black people's intelligence, are they still funny? Shouldn't be.
There needs to be room in art for irreverence. An example of this would be something like....a roast.....where you understand, within the context of the forum, the humor will be raunchy, off-color, daring, blue, tongue-in-cheek, dark, light, silly, rude. dirty, etc.
In art, humor, stage, screen, literature, poetry, music, spoken word, etc.....there needs to be a balance of dark and light.....rude and polite....sexy and demure....mean and nice......there needs to be a balance. We can choose what resonates with us, and make decisions accordingly. But you can't have the sweet without the sour. It simply is....the human experience, not utopia. (Who the fuck wants that?) Do this: Google "Yin & Yang".
With sex....some people like to be whipped....while others prefer missionary only, and only with the lights out. In music....some people like loud and bombastic, with colorful language....while others like soft orchestral strings in a darkened music hall. In literature....some people like Outlander...Hollywood Wives...The Kama Sutra.....while others like The Bible....Charlotte's Web....Robert Frost.
When we start censoring things down to the most fragile sensibility.....we screen out some of the most enriching......provocative.....thought provoking.....angering....arousing.....content in the fabric of the human experience. In which case, we'd erase.......Greek legends....Biblical fables.....The Kama Sutra.....Robin Williams.....Dave Chappell.......Mapplethorpe.....Janis Joplin.....Marilyn Monroe......The Shawshank Redemption......Lauren Bacall......Frank Sinatra......The Rolling Stones.......pretty much every rap song ever.....pretty much every soap opera ever......Grease.......Madonna......Lady Gaga......Rock & Roll........Andy Warhol......The 60's.....The 70's......New Orleans......Paris........museums.......poetry....romance novels.......lingerie......nipple clamps......The Bachelor.....The Bachelorette.....Playboy Magazine....Playgirl Magazine.....Camille Paglia.....most of literature.....college.......bondage........Breaking Bad.......The Walking Dead......Edgar Allen Poe.........Yellowstone.......Saving Private Ryan.....Don Rickles......Rita Hayworth......beer commercials.......Eddie Murphy.......Cher........I'd go on, but this could take hours. I'm sure you get the point.
Their podcast WAS their workplace (and their context)...every bit as much as Howard Stern and Robin's radio show is THEIR workplace....every bit as much as the stage is Dave Chappell's workplace....every bit as much as the airwaves are Ice Cube's workplace.....
You just don't get it. And I've lost interest in discussing it with you. SMH...
And let's not forget his greatest crime. Being a white man! Can't have that. Let's bring in Levar Burton! He's the next Michael Strahan of game show hosts!
Yes he got fired for being a white man by racist Twitter trolls that are likely too stupid to be Jeopardy fans. Maybe he'll develop a Beauty and the Geek revival now.
Yes it did. He got fired because a bunch of racist psychos on twitter who are too stupid to be Jeopardy fans to begin with we’re mad Lavar Burton wasn’t named as the Host. With that in mind they digged through his past to see what they could find to twist online to ruin his life and rob him of his career simply because he’s a white male. These lunatics think they are justified in their racism.