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I'm a trans rights supporter, but this is crazy


She does NOT have gender dysphoria. She is NOT transgender. She was completely happy being and identifying as a woman for 33 years of her life until suddenly when transgender euphoria hit society, (and her career tanks) she decides to identify as a man while doing nothing to actually change her body. I support transgender rights, but I make a distinction between transgenders and transTRENDers.

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And how do you know that alleged number doesn't identify itself as a letter, or as a orthographic sign? It seems extremely prejudicial to label it as a number, dismissing the possibility that it identifies itself as something different.

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I think the number the OP is going to guess identifies as the number you are thinking of, therefore you accept what was said.

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Maybe she's just a transLENDER?

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What are trans rights? And how are they different from normal rights?

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From what I can tell, and this is just my opinion. Trans are accepted by women in the workforce because they are men who chose to become a woman. For example, I work in a construction firm and I found out one of the male(a beta male) office workers all the sudden was a woman. I didn't recognize this until he/she told me. I went back and told the guys what happened and we really believe he got a boob job because now he/she knows he/she will never be fired. Total job security!
Tons of emails that come from the corporate heads rant constantly about supporting trans rights. These heads are mostly women, I've figured out they are just stomping men down, they've been told their whole life that white men are evil rapists. They're constantly fed this crazy shit every single day at work and 25 hours a day in their men hating Facebook groups. I know all this sounds crazy but I've actually seen this with my own two eyes. Trans rights really equals "hate white men".

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YOU SUCK.πŸ™‚

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I know all this sounds crazy

Yes, indeed, it does.

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Doesn't sound crazy at all. My wife works in a male dominated field and I've never heard her complain about not being equal, she does her job well, doesn't create drama, and has been promoted like crazy, funny how that works.

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Shhhhh!! You're debunking the narrative!!!

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In crazy times, common sense does sound crazy.

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YOU SHOULD BE SUPPORTING HUMAN RIGHTS...HE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE/ACT LIKE/CALL HIMSELF/IDENTIFY AS/ETC WHATEVER HE LIKES.

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Even though he will always be a she.

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Yes, she has that right. And I have the right to not give a shit about her fantasies.

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CHILDREN ARE HARD TO TALK TO.πŸ™„

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I know, specially when they SCREAM like morons.

I told you several times that CAPS is equivalent to shouting and being rude on the internet but you don't give a shit about others and you don't comply to their requests for you to stop shouting and being rude so I don't really understand why are so upset when other people don't comply with absurd requests.

Let me say it again so you can easily understand: if you don't comply with legit requests of other people how the fuck do you dare to ask others to comply to your (or in this case hers) moronic and absurd requests???

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"I told you several times"


^THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM RIGHT THERE...YOU ENTITLED LITTLE SHIT...YOU THINK WHAT YOU WANT MATTERS IN THIS WORLD AND THAT YOU SHOULD GET IT FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN YOU SAID SO.

ONE DAY YOU WILL GROW UP AND REALIZE EVERYONE WANTS WHAT THEY WANT AND THE ONLY PERSON'S SHIT YOU NEED WORRY ABOUT IS YOUR OWN.


P.S. I LIKE YOU...I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST,TRULY.πŸ™‚

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Kowalski, do you know that you sound demented?

Are you naturally miserable, or do you work at it? ❓❓❓

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DEMENTED?...YES....MISERABLE?...NOPE...I LOVE MY DAUGHTER AND MOVIES AND MY CATS AND WEED...IM A HAPPY PERSON...ANY MISINTERPRETATION IS JUST THAT.

I LIKE YOU TOO,YOU KNOW.πŸ†

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"THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM RIGHT THERE...YOU ENTITLED LITTLE SHIT...YOU THINK WHAT YOU WANT MATTERS IN THIS WORLD AND THAT YOU SHOULD GET IT FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN YOU SAID SO.

ONE DAY YOU WILL GROW UP AND REALIZE EVERYONE WANTS WHAT THEY WANT AND THE ONLY PERSON'S SHIT YOU NEED WORRY ABOUT IS YOUR OWN."

now take this piece of wisdom and apply it to you and to her, two entitled little bitches.

Falling in my trap was way too simple ;)

Btw, I told you several times about a social, general accepted rule, not what I want. YOU are the entitled little shit here. But I know: hard for you to understand :D

PS: if you would scream like this in public you would be at least fined if not jailed. So no, you cannot do quite whatever you like.

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LMAO...YOU NEED SOME FRIENDS...I CAN BE YOUR FRIEND.πŸ™‚

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That asshole is a Troll with capital T. Just ignore him till he starts behaving.

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Uh you realize he got top surgery before he even came out right? Plus there are so many reasons a legitimately dysphoric trans person could come out later in life

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She wants better roles and an Oscar. That is all about it. Stop discussing it. Moderators should lock this board.

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Also if you look at his interviews, he felt this way since he was a CHILD, a toddler. And coming out isn’t going to make his career more successful, if anything he probably lost a good chunk of people who supported him

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The OP does NOT truly support trans rights by declaring there's a time limit on when someone comes out. Many trans people of both genders first believe they are gay, then fully realize they are trans. It's called growth, something healthy human beings do. As for idiots who feel Page is doing this to win an Oscar (wtf???), I would wager this might stifle his career rather than boost it. My feeling is that he's more concerned about his mental health, as well as the health of much younger trans people as opposed to being super rich or a superstar.

That said, I don't buy into the faddish "non-binary" nonsense. There are TWO genders. If you can't figure out which one you are, don't try and pull the oh-so-murky-attention-seeking "I'm neither - so I'm the third gender" card. It just plain smells.

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Yeah I agree with you. In my book, if you’ve experienced dysphoria for at least several years, you’re probably not faking and it’s legit. The most infuriating part of it all is that he has gotten top surgery (a major procedure to masculinize the chest) before he came out and people like OP are just assuming he had nothing done just because he doesn’t pass at the moment. And finally, I honestly think most β€œnonbinary” people are FTM or MTF but slightly gender non-conforming so they think they couldn’t possibly be a man or woman. The same way sometimes cis women/men think they have to be this in between gender just because they’re also GNC.

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tl;dr

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Wdym?

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I'm embarrassed for all you calling her "him". LOL!!

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Cute. In a single sentence you've said more about YOU than Page. And it ain't pretty. The only one you've embarrassed is YOU.

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Nope. Normal people aren't embarrassed by abnormal people.

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True, but they should be embarrassed by trying to push abnormal people as normal.

That's the difference between us: you want to force us to accept abnormality as normality while we just want to be left alone while we acknowledge that abnormality IS abnormality.

So SHE is a HER.

PS: and you just admitted that they are abnormal, how offensive of you. A bit of cognitive dissonance as well ...

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But YOU'RE abnormal. No worries, though...we'll be embarrassed for you.

You're a real piece of work.

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The FACT is, in a thousand years or whenever, if anthropologists examine HER remains, they'll say something to the effect of: Yep, here we have an early 21st century FEMALE. They won't give a shit about your cockamamie denial's of reality and I don't either. Sticking feathers up your butt won't make you a chicken any more then her lopping off or stitching on body parts will make her a male.

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THOSE ANTHROPOLOGISTS WONT IDENTIFY HIS FAVORITE COLOR,RELIGION,INTELLIGENCE,ETC EITHER...ALL THINGS THAT MEAN NOTHING WHEN JUDGED THROUGH THE SANDS OF TIME BUT MEAN A WHOLE FUCKING LOT TO A PERSON WHILE THEY ARE LIVING.

YOU HAVE A PROBLEM,BIAS,ISSUE WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE AND DO YOUR VERY BEST TO LAY IT OFF ON A BUNCH OF BIG IDEAS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSERTIONS...BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY...PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO CANT ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLE WHO ACCEPT THEM ARE ASSHOLES.

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Accepting and agreeing are not the same. I have no hatred for "Elliot" and accept her as a human but I (and those pesky anthropologists) disagree that she's a man.

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IF YOU TRULY HAD NO HATRED...WHY DO YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO REPEATEDLY POST THINGS LIKE....

[–] chilone (7788) 2 hours ago
I'm embarrassed for all you calling her "him". LOL!!


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[–] chilone (7788) an hour ago
Nope. Normal people aren't embarrassed by abnormal people


YOU SEEM TO BE A VERY AWKWARDLY SAD PERSON...I HOPE YOU FIND PEACE WITH YOURSELF ONE DAY.


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She's a woman. No matter how much you scream otherwise.

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The world is upside down. Up is down, Wrong is right,black is white, men are women and women are men.

β€œIn an insane world a sane man must appear insane.”

― C Willaim King

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Hahahahaha! Save your drug induced, armchair psychology. You couldn't be further off the mark.

Seriously bro, the resins in your brain must have crystalized if you equate embarrassment with hate.

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THOSE ANTHROPOLOGISTS WONT IDENTIFY HIS FAVORITE COLOR,RELIGION,INTELLIGENCE,ETC EITHER

Irrelevant. He didn't say that those anthropologist will NOT identify her sex. He clearly specified that they WILL identify her as a ... her.

What you're talking about are feelings. We are talking about FACTS. And the funny thing is: FACTS don't give a shit about feelings ...

Now i know why you write in caps: low IQ and Functional illiteracy ... you can read but you don't grasp the idea.

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YEAH...YOU DICKHEADS HAVE A MILLION REASONS TO BE PUSHY INTOLERANT ASSHOLES...AND ITS JUST SO DAMN EASY...GIVE IN TO YOUR BASE THOUGHTS...I DONT BLAME YOU...THINKING BEYOND WHAT IS TRUE AND VALID IN YOUR OWN EYES IS REALLY HARD.

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THINKING BEYOND WHAT IS TRUE AND VALID IS REALLY HARD.

Fixed that for ya.

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NO U!

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He didn't embarrass himself by stating fact. Ellen will never be male.

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If you're too stupid to know the difference between gender and sex, you're too ignorant to have your opinion register on anyone's radar.

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It's pretty much the same thing.

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