Did he deserve to live so long?
All those young ppl he killed?
shareWell he didn't actually kill anyone with his own hands. He influenced others to kill for him.
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I would have preferred if he was dragged out of a jail cell, paraded through the streets, and hanged by a screaming street mob. I image the terror of that would filter even into his diseased brain.
But at least he spent the best part of his life caged like the animal he was.
If you mean hanged naked, literally stripped of any pretense of the humanity he so clearly lacked, we agree.
However, I think nailing him naked to an inverted wooden cross with fire ants in his mouth appeals to me more.
Please don’t insult animals, though I understand your passion. This monster was subhuman.
Please don’t insult animals, though I understand your passion. This monster was subhuman.
Excellent point. Animals kill for need, not perverted thrills. share
A lifelong prison sentence is much more gruelling than simply putting him in the electric chair.
shareBullets cost the taxpayers less than food. He should have simply been shot
shareYep, I totally agree.
shareHodWatt has a good point though.
If, in the interests of justice, you think he should suffer for his crimes then life in solitary confinement like he spent is FAR more grueling than just executing him.
And it's not the food that costs the taxpayers the most with death row inmates. It's all the litigation before they get there.
Litigation is just another way to scam the taxpayers
shareIt is but it's a necessary cost to ensure the state doesn't put to death an innocent. It's not foolproof since innocent people still slip through the cracks and get executed all the time, but defendants should be allowed to exhaust their appeals before being put to death.
There have been plenty of instances of death row inmates found innocent and freed who would have unfairly been executed by the state if they didn't have the ability to appeal.
How about a capitalist prison food system.
shareIn some countries a group will take the scumbag into the deep woods for an "allnighter". Nobody ever sees the scumbag ever again, nobody ever asks questions.
share I don't think lifelong incarceration was that big of a punishment for old Charlie. He'd spent most of his life institutionalized before he got out and created his "Family". He knew prison life, he was comfortable with prison life. It was the world he knew so I doubt that he was unhappy. He had hordes of goofball fans and follower who sent him gifts in prison, guitars (which he smashed regularly), clothes, etc.
All we can hope and pray for is that he is getting his just "reward" in the afterlife.
*Totally* agree. Many of us would be horrified at incarceration even if it was benevolent, but to others the simplicity of not having to worry about food, clothing, housing, medical care, etc. would be a comfort.
He couldn't suffer enough on earth and I do hope he's suffering now in some way.
The average person "would be horrified at incarceration". But Manson definitely was not!
That was something that really frustrated the prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. Many times he remarked that Manson told him, "You've just sent me back to where I came from."
He never really got the punishment that he deserved. I read a book by the prison counselor who worked with Charlie Manson. His privileges were unbelievable.
I don't think Manson was crazy, crazy like a fox maybe. But his old friend Squeaky Fromme and a genuine nutcase used to ask his counselor to give Charlie a little patch of land to grow vegetables where he could strum his guitar.
Also, for someone who was so cavalier about the death of others, he was very keen on protecting his own life. He never preached his flower child, hippy nonsense to other prisoners. They were tough gang members who didn't want to hear Manson's babbling. He steered clear of them.
Whenever he angered a fellow prisoner and his life was in danger, he'd go into his "crazy Charlie" routine. He'd be transferred to the psych ward or another prison's hospital or put in solitary. He knew how to play his games and survive in prison. It wasn't really punishment for him.
The guy was utterly insane, it doesn’t matter where he was, he was already suffering by being lost in his own mind.
In a way it’s tragic, as he was a talented singer/songwriter who had a lot of potential but threw it all away to become a raving nutjob.