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Love Murray, Loathe Stubing


I've been watching a lot of my Mary Tyler Moore DVDs and I remember how much I loved Murray. He was cute and cuddly and so lovable. His Ted zingers were hilarious. But he really had affection for the foot-in-mouth anchorman who endlessly botched his copy.

There's a later episode when Murray thinks he was going to win a Teddy Award. He doesn't win but he gives his speech to his co-workers in Mary's apartment. He tells Ted something like how great it was to work around him because he was so joyful. Murray tells Ted that he really likes him.

In contrast, I couldn't stand his character as Captain Stubing on The Love Boat. Sometimes there were exceptions, but he often came across as cold and humorless. There was no charm in that character at all. It's probably just me, but I never warmed up to him.

Maybe it was Gavin MacLeod's conscious decision to make the Captain as completely different from Murray as possible. He was in charge of the ship and I didn't expect him to be cracking one liners or going after his officers with wisecracks like Murray did with Ted. But the character left me cold.

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Dang pj. You’re single handedly dismantling all of the icons of my childhood. First Ma Cunningham, and now Captain Stubing. No! Not the Stubing! You should have picked on Doc instead. He’s an easy target. Dude must have had more STD’s than elements in the periodic table :D

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Sorry 'bout that! But Marion Cunningham an icon? More like an eyesore. lol Sorry again. I guess she wasn't so bad, but her performance just annoyed me. After all that "Happy Days" talk, I found some Ralph Malph clips on youtube. Now he was funny. And so was the Fonz before he (literally) jumped the shark.

I really could never get into Captain Stubing. He just seemed so stiff and humorless. I enjoyed Gavin MacLeod in an old Dick van Dyke episode. He was Mel Cooley's cousin and he sold jewelry. He sold Rob that hideous 'Empress Carlotta's Necklace.'

Doc Bricker? Well I give him points for being so funny in other shows like "Get Smart" and "Bewitched". But on Love Boat, wasn't he supposed to have been married a number of times including to the gorgeous Juliet Prowse. He never had the looks to be believable as a great "ladies man". Maybe it was his personality that won them over? lol

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How about Ziegfreid on Get Smart?

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