a group I never got
same as Jethro Tull.
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Their music's alright. It's the Dead Head culture that I never got or found appealing. I wonder if any of the original DHs are even alive now?
shareWhy wonder when you can search? Too lazy? To stupid? Just want to make up your own fake-facts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadhead#Celebrities
Jeesh aren't we touchy?
I meant Deadhead "regular" people not celebrities or the band itself. I remember Deadheads being in the media especially during the summer back in the 80s and 90s now not so much if at all. It doesn't help that MTV doesn't even feature rock music and instead has gone 100% Hip Hop/Dance/Pop 24/7
Not touchy, but that is a comment you could have developed into something more than - hey can someone do my Googling for me. I was being sarcastic without remembering how sarcasm fails to translate online, so no offense meant.
I cannot even bear to listen to today's music. There are of course the one or two in a year songs that break our of their genre into something else. The music of today is not even music as I recognize it.
I've ended up turning the other way to listening to more classical music. Guess that makes me an old fogey.
I grew up near SF, where it was considered normal for yuppies with good jobs to say they were "Deadheads", and to spend the occasional weekend hanging out with other deadheads in some dusty outdoor space, smoking dope and wearing tie-dye, and forgetting their troubles.
Honestly, I think people just liked the chance to relax and to hang out with other relaxed "Deadheads", more than they liked the music.
only had 1 good song maybe 2, watched the netflix show about Bob weir. their music was mostly appealing to the hippies on acid and other drugs. life and music is always better on drugs. then they got cult status in the 80's where it was cool to go to a show. not for the music, but just to say you went to a grateful dead concert...
shareI think I understand Dead Heads, there were still a lot of hippies and children of hippies in the 80's and Grateful Dead concerts were practically the last bastion of the hippie culture, it's mostly died out by now.
However, I never understood fans of Jimmy Buffet.
Me neither. Awful.
shareOld hippies, bald on top but with ponytails, driving around the country and camping out to hear this superannuated band play the same stoner tunes over and over and over. Pitiful.
shareI don't get the Grateful Dead.
I will admit they have some good songs that I like.
Since they came out or or around my town the insight I have is that they were an identity band that people liked because they played "organically", different every time, and they allowed concert attenders to record and pass around music. They were a kind of guerrilla band, and being a Dead Head for some was a way to be rebellious and revolutionary, to express their dislike for the music industry. Looking at today's music industry, there's more a case they were correct than otherwise.
As to Jethro Tull, they are, or he ( Ian Anderson ) is one of my favorite bands. The reason I like the music is that they are not the cliche BS head-banging rock and roll idiocy that took over the Rock scene before it died or people started to be very offended by it. Then there was Reggae, Rap and no Hip-Hop, with all the violence and misogyny. Maybe you prefer all that.
The thing with Jethro Tull is that the music is produced and arranged very will with a lot of harmony and rhythmic complexity. If you have a good expensive stereo, which I assume you don't, and cannot afford, you can listen to practically any Jethro Tull song and follow and concentrate on the melodies and counterpoints differently every time. It's really amazing.
Nothing good thing about JT is that practically every song on every album was a decent song that one could listen to and to some extent appreciate, and not have to get up and pick up the tone arm and move to the next song or flip the record over. Most other groups albums were mostly filler songs with one or maybe two good songs. The good bands were like that, the could produce. To me, lots of Grateful Dead songs were filler songs, but they did enough good songs to rate as a decent band. Only happened to catch them once in an SF free concert. Did not particularly like what they were playing then or the crowd.
Maybe you're just not a music person.
I was born in the mid 60's I'll say this; If I was going to hang out with my friends in a basement shooting pool and listening to music I'd much prefer AC/DC, Van Halen, Ozzy, Aerosmith, Foghat, Frampton, Stones, etc.
However, if there was one guy who asked if every once in awhile we listen to Grateful Dead, Hendrix, Doors, Joplin, Beatles, Zepplin I'd be okay with it. I'd probably grow to like many Deadhead songs but I don't think they had the talent of all these other bands I've mentioned.
Musical taste is such a funny thing. As I kid I realize that people sorted themselves according to their musical identities. I hung with the hard rockers, but I never liked Ozzy, Aerosmith, Foghat, Frampton, Joplin, Doors much, except for their big hits ... which in this case only includes Aerosmith's Sweet Emotion, Joplin's Get It While You Can, and a few one-off Doors tunes.
Grateful Dead I like Box Of Rain, Touch of Grey, Scarlett Begonias ... not even sure I have the titles right, but they made some good music.
Zeppelin, the Who, and some others I liked at certain times, but I got so tired of the same old lyrics. I always wished there were more instrumental songs, because at least when I thought about it, most songs were something thinking of a good musical motive or phrase and developing it, and then trying to put some lyrics that would appeal to the mass market in there.
The Stones consistently came up with good tunes, but always with that bad boy tone. Sometimes you just want to listen to music. I liked hard, violent, loud tunes, but not when paired with violence or Satan, or typical rock misogyny, and I never though that was very good for the public soul, or mind. As music developed this way, so did movies and TV until now we have a society there folks are steeped in this stuff and cannot understand reality.
I'd really like to understand the dynamic between the Record Company's marketing strategies and the public demand. Did the public really want all this ugly anti-social music, or did they see going back to Elvis shaking his hips and being the bad boy and then every year try to outdo themselves and their competitors?