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Spencer is a bad actor?


I think Spencer is a great actor.. but If you can give me 10 good reasons as to why hes not that arnt the same thing over and over... Maybe i'll change my mind.. your all stupid anyways and your just mad because Spencer has talent and your jealous because he actually gets to use it.

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Yeah,Spencer is a good actor!!

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If you give me 10 good reasons why he is talented, I'll change my opinion and give him credit. Otherwise, I see nothing special about him. Just because your famous, it doesn't make you talented.

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1.He is dedicated to his work
2.He is serious about it
3.He doesnt try to hard
4.It looks real
5.When he actually is acting you can't tell he is.
6.He fits every part he plays well
7.He's been in some award winning movies with big celebs in them like Sean Penn and Bruce Willis.
8.He got the parts in the movies and he couldent of got them if he wasnt good at it.
9.He's good looking so it makes people want to watch more b/c no one wants to see some ugly ass like you on TV.
10.He says his lines with expression

I bet you didnt see that comming..Now what are your 10 reasons??

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I posted seven things on your points, but then the page did some stupid thing and changed on me, erasing everything I wrote. I'll come back and repost it in a little bit.

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Ten good reasons? Let's go.

Point: "1.He is dedicated to his work"
Counter-point: How so? How do you determine what dedicated is? Dedication doesn't make a good actor, good acting makes a good actor.

Point: "2.He is serious about it"
Counter-point: Do you actually know this guy personally? You seem to be talking like he's a good friend of yours. I've read somewhere that Ashton Kutcher takes his acting serious too, but it doesn't make him any better than the Olsen Twins.

Point: "3.He doesnt try to hard"
Counter-point: Did you see Unbreakable? It seemed like every scene he did he was trying to up-stage himself. Going opposite Bruce Willis is no small task though. Perhaps his performance to me seemed bad in comparison to Willis, since I thought Willis was great in it. But, I thought he blowing his character up as big as he could make it, which is trying to hard. And then in other scenes, he's more dead in emotion than any performance I've seen.

Point: "4.It looks real"
Counter-point: Yes, he convinced me that he was a mute, a son of a Roman diplomat, and a son of a super hero. What looks real? He didn't do anything. Great actors make the unreal real. He hasn't done anything to show realness. After all, Hilary Duff can convince me she's a stupid blonde without a problem, but all she's doing is playing herself. Which is what I believe Clark does.

Point: "5.When he actually is acting you can't tell he is."
Counter-point: As oppossed to when he's not you can tell he's not. I don't call what he does acting, I call it portraying as oneself. He's not really getting a character. In Unbreakable he could have been selected by profile (i.e. White, male, between ages of 10-14). Nearly the same for Gladiator, except he had to be able to do an English accent (which, most will say, is very easy to do). Point being, there's nothing to his characters except for the one in Mystic River, in which i thought he did a terrible job, mainly because he was just so one-toned the whole time, when the character had an obvious dark side to him.

Point: "6.He fits every part he plays well"
Counter-point: Again, this goes back to my previous points. He fits these parts because there's nothing to them. To say he's great actor because he plays someone his age and average person, does not make him special. That's like saying Britney Spears is good because she fit the part she played in Crossroads.

Point: "7.He's been in some award winning movies with big celebs in them like Sean Penn and Bruce Willis"
Counter-point: Don't even try this approach. Being in a movie with big celebs does not make you any better of an actor. One great example is Jennifer Lopez. Definitely not a bad actress, but very far from great. She's worked with Sean Penn, Ralph Fiennes (a personal hero of mine), Robin Williams, Steven Soderbergh, and Oliver Stone. This does not mean she's a better actress than any other out there.

Point: "8.He got the parts in the movies and he couldent of got them if he wasnt good at it."
Counter-point: I think you're saying the same thing you just said in the last one, only rephrased. But to respond, directors hate to cast newcomers unless they are exceptionally talented, unless they happen across someone who is that talented, they are most likely to cast someone who's name is already out there. In hopes that the actor they've casted already has some of a fan base, which brings in more money. Except in the case of really young actors, in which talent is not a requirement, and as long as you're a cute kid, they'll cast you. So, Clark was 8 years old and was cast as a kid in a TV movie, this put his name on a few rosters. Experience in the film industry actually matters to most directors, so they would cast Clark before others at least partly because they don't have to break him in like they would a newcomer.

Point: "9.He's good looking so it makes people want to watch more b/c no one wants to see some ugly ass like you on TV."
Counter-point: You had half credibility, until you came to this one and had to resort to personal insults to feel you proved your point. But if we're going to get insulting, I'll go with that. Newflash: LOOKS DO NOT MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO TALENT!!!!!!! I can't believe you would even put that. That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard as to why someone is a good actor. Because he looks good!? Oh, and there's one other thing that I can't help but find amusing. I AM ON TV! http://teenscene23.tripod.com/id15.html Scroll down to the fouth name. Justin R. is me. I know you meant the big time stuff, but give me a few years, I'll be just as big as Clark if not bigger. I promise that. If it weren't for the fact that I were in such a crap town with no means of getting me into the industry, I would be where Clark is.

Point: "10.He says his lines with expression"
Counter-point: If all there was to acting was expression in lines, then acting wouldn't be an art. When he can express emotion through his eyes, like the greater talents around his age, like Haley Joel Osment, Evan Rachel Wood, Nikki Reed, or Keisha Castle Hughes, (especially Wood) I'll consider him a "great" actor. But to me, he is just average. And there is one scene imparticular that I think of for him. In Unbreakable, shortly after he holds a gun to Willis's character, he's playing with two toys, the camera focused on him with his parents in the background discussing what they should do. NO EXPRESSION IN HIS EYES! He says a few lines, but there should have been so much thought going through that character's head at that moment, but he one-toned his way through it. I hope, he wasn't trying, because if it was, he is just plain bad.


You're right, I didn't see that coming. I thought you were going to give fact-based reasons as to why he's great. And you even said you didn't want the same thing over and over again, but I think you repeated yourself in there, just rephrased. I never said I was going to post ten good reasons. I don't want you to change your opinion. I just wanted to be shown what makes him great. You didn't help. I'm done for now.

PS. Sorry that was so long guys, I got carried away. If you actually read it all, I'll be impressed.

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First of all, Dedication is To commit (oneself) to a particular course of thought or action. No one can be an actor without being dedicated to his or her work. And regardless of wether or not you think he is a good actor, he still is one. So it's pretty obvious that he is dedicated to his work otherwise he wouldent be an actor in the first place because no one is going to be dedicated to something that they don't want.. umm and I'm sure he wants to be an actor.

Second, Maybe I do know him personally, that doesnt matter. I didnt say seriousness makes him a better actor I said it makes him a good actor. Maybe it doenst work for the Olsen Twins but it works fine for Spencer.

3. Maybe thats why you don't like him then. I thought his preformance in Unbreakable was great and, it didnt seem to me that he was trying to hard but, whatever you say.

4. What I mean by it looks real is that he looks like he is really in the part. Unlike when Hilary Duff is in a movie you can tell shes acting and that ruins the point of being in a movie anyways.

5. But in Mystic River you have no idea how he was supposed to act, you didnt read the script or talk to the directors. He was supposed to be kind of "one-toned" or whatever you want to call it. He wasnt supposed to be dark because the only reason he killed that girl was because he didnt want his brother to move to away because he loved him. Nothing to dark about that, he was just a messed up character but, he played the part good and other then that he was innocant.

6.Maybe he likes being in parts when theirs nothing to them. I'd like to see you be in the movies he's been in and see if you even do half as good as him.. (because he did good) It doesnt matter how big or small the part is acting is acting.

7. What I ment by this was, Mystic River when it came out and while it was being filmed was thought to be a movie that would make alot of money. Not just because of Clint Eastwood but because of the plot. There not going to put some *beep* actor in with Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon.

8. Your an idiot. So your telling my they would of cast him if he stood there and went " duhh duuhhh duuuuuhhhhh" the whole time? I don't think so.

9.Yea it does make you a better actor in my opinon because the better you look the more people care to watch and after all this bad talk about him why would you even want to be where he is?

10. Oh by the way, I ment he says them with expression through his eyes because, he does. He also does it thru his words. Not every second of a movie
is a person supposed to have expression in their eyes. Sometimes in real life people are dull and expressionless maybe thats what he was supposed to do there.And I have a feeling thats it because he was kind of emotionless after holding a gun to his dad. So then his dad that he almost shot walks into the room, he doesnt know what to feel, hate, love, anger so he is just emotionless and there is no expression in his eyes.



Spencer is just as good as Sean Penn he only does smaller parts. You did nothing to prove to me that he is a bad actor you just said stuff about the Olsen Twins. And if you were so popular your only website wouldent be on tripod.
I don't know if you go to acting school but, I do and I actually know what acting is. Your the one on here talking bad about someone whos never even going to read it because he's to good . And like I said You don't know if I know him personally or not. So I am done on here I don't think i'm going to respond to you anymore because even though it's not the same as mine, I can try to respect your opinion. If you don't like him then why do you watch his movies? I mean, I don't like Ja Rule so I don't buy his albums. It's as simple as that.

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I'd reply, but you obviously don't care enough to read it respectfully and see things from a different angle(a key thing that is taught to actors), so why bother?

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