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Took the cops long enough. She died over 35 years ago and now they are looking at him?

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Frank Drebin: The missing evidence in the Wagner case. My God! He was guilty!


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You just blew my mind!

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lol.

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Well if it took them this long to name him a person of interest, it will be another 35 years before they get around to pressing charges

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Seriously, I hope it's not true. Would be even more of a shame.


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Agreed; it would be a shame. So much damning evidence that was ignored.

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about time, he killed.

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There will be a special on this case, "Death in Dark Water", on CBS on Sat Feb 3 at 10 pm. I plan to DVR it.


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48 Hours right ??

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I don't know. I seldom watch CBS.


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you said you were going to DVR it ??

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Yes.


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This is laughable that they waited this long. He is 87 now, and the tragic night happened when he was 43 -- talk about a cold case!

I always thought the circumstances were suspicious and that there was more to this tale. Robert Wagner has always been the most likely suspect, though proving murder would be difficult. At least they changed the cause of death in 2012 from "accidental" to "drowning and other undetermined factors." It was puzzling to many that after Natalie Wood's death was initially ruled "accidental," no one seemed to vigorously pursue the case despite so many questions about the case. Wagner was a huge star back in the day.

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deliciousfeet posted this link elsewhere; thought I would add it to this thread as it poses a connection between Natalie Wood's and William Holden's deaths:

http://dreamingcasuallypoetry.blogspot.com/2011/12/was-william-holdens-death-accident-or.html

I found this quote especially intriguing, given all of the other information presented at that link:

"I just find it very strange that both William Holden who was linked to [Stephanie] Powers (Hart to Hart) and Natalie Wood who was married to [Robert] Wagner (Hart to Hart) both died within two weeks of one another. Both people suffering from suspicious deaths, both examined by Dr. Noguchi and both ruled 'Accidental' when the evidence says otherwise."

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William Holden was an alcoholic and I doubt that he was murdered. Suspicious? Probably because nobody wanted to publicize his alcoholism.

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Yes, he was an alcoholic. Did you see the alternate explanation given for the alcohol found in his system? It sounds at least plausible, worth considering.

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I also found this about coroner Thomas Noguchi, who was 89 years old in 2013 when he confessed that he did not get Natalie Wood's fingernail scrapings. This despite evidence that she had tried to cling to the side of the dinghy as it drifted away from the yacht, Splendour. I wonder if she called out? I would think she would have shouted; it was public knowledge she was deathly afraid of drowning in dark water.

https://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/robert-wagner-wife-natalie-wood-death-autopsy-mistakes/

So much conflicting information out there. Here is another account that states an eyewitness (actually, two, if we count Captain Davern, although he may or may not prove to be a credible witness) heard Natalie scream for help. At the same time, it posits that coroner Noguchi was fired from wanting to look further into the case (I haven't looked for further information on this yet.)

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1117_declaration.pdf

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Christopher Walken was also on the boat with Wagner and Natalie Wood. As I recall they were all pretty drunk. Maybe Natalie just fell and didn't know how to swim?

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Christopher Walken was also on the boat with Wagner and Natalie Wood

Natalie Wood comes back from drinking early to the boat Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken were on. What she saw cost her, her life. She found them in bed together. She went hysterical and threatened to tell the world. They would have none of that. Only one way to keep this under wraps. Kill her and make it look like a accident. They got away with murder.

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That is one theory. Whatever happened, I hope this time the authorities make a real attempt to find out what happened instead of the coverup that took place after Natalie's death.

The attached 17-page document -- full of details that make me wonder why the authorities didn't do their jobs at the time -- makes a good case for other motives.

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1117_declaration.pdf

I hope they explore all possible angles and solve this case -- there was no excuse for the slipshod police and detective work or for initially closing the case so quickly. Wagner reminded me of the abominable way Ted Kennedy behaved at Chappaquidick in his slow reaction time in involving authorities. And there are strong indications from witness testimony in that document that Wagner threw his wife Natalie off the boat.

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Thanks for that link missy. I always thought Wagner had a lot more to do with her death than he says. Now I am more convinced than ever.

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You're welcome! Yes, there is a lot more to it. With all of the evidence and witnesses authorities had access to at the time that they ignored -- witnesses never interviewed and evidence never collected -- and now they say they have new evidence, but I wonder if it isn't a witness or witnesses who were available at the time yet are only now being interviewed decades later.

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Theory, not fact.

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[–] Sandman3 (480) 3 days ago

Christopher Walken was also on the boat with Wagner and Natalie Wood

Natalie Wood comes back from drinking early to the boat Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken were on. What she saw cost her, her life. She found them in bed together. She went hysterical and threatened to tell the world. They would have none of that. Only one way to keep this under wraps. Kill her and make it look like a accident. They got away with murder.

Not only isn't there an ounce of truth to what you just said, it was never even a fleeting suspicion, let alone a theory. Christopher Walken was Natalie's friend. Robert Wagner didn't even like him. Furthermore, if I remember correctly, they all got back to the boat together. All drunk. You may as well have said aliens killed her. There's the same amount of proof there, as there is in the fallacy you claimed.

I do believe Robert Wagner killed her. Either directly or indirectly. He definitely knows exactly what happened. I think Walken and the captain helped him cover it up for fear of damaging their careers, lives, etc..

Whether or not anyone is, or isn't, bisexual has nothing to do with anything.

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Not only isn't there an ounce of truth to what you just said, it was never even a fleeting suspicion, let alone a theory. Christopher Walken was Natalie's friend. Robert Wagner didn't even like him. Furthermore, if I remember correctly, they all got back to the boat together. All drunk. You may as well have said aliens killed her. There's the same amount of proof there, as there is in the fallacy you claimed.


Erm, yes, it's what's referred to as a joke, or sarcasm.

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Erm, there was no joke or sarcasm there. Maybe you should look up the meaning of both.

And let me just say wow....let me say it again....wow....You weren't content with making a complete idiot out of yourself in the conversation that actually included you? You had to seriously go out of your way and follow me to another topic, just to reply to something I said to someone else. Does someone need to be the center of attention? That goes way beyond pathetic. Now you've proven you're a creepy loser. I won't be wasting anymore time on you. I'm actually embarrassed for you. The best thing you could do for yourself is to immediately shut up. Don't make it worse. Go find a friend. Good luck.

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No, really, it was a joke. It was just as absurd as theorizing aliens killed her. Or bigfoot. Pick an absurd murderer.

Follow you? Ha! Why on earth would I follow you? There are lots and lots of boards here. One is bound to bump into some of the same people if they have interests in common.

If you think I was being snarky, I wasn't.

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Rich & famous people kill each other all the time. They get rich & famous making movies about the very activity.

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