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Jon and his father, Steve, going fishing


I have a theory about why Jon developed such an obsession with fishing. He had other interests and things that he liked, but fishing was the biggest one. I think that even though he loved to go fishing before, an obsession with it really developed in the 90s.

I have read in an interview from Jonathan, that is was Steve who used to take Jon fishing, it was a thing he had with his father, before his parents divorce. I think it was a subconscious thing with Jon, that he wanted to go fishing, at least in part, because he really missed his father. And if you are doing an activity that you once did with a certain person, it can make you feel closer to that person if you continue to do that activity. So, Jon may have wanted to go fishing a lot because he wanted to be close to his dad, and that was a way he could feel like he was.

I have a degree in Psychology. We have been talking about what happened between Steve and Claudine, and Steve’s relationship with Jon and Joel, in the thread “So, what’s he doing now?” and so I have been thinking about Jon this week. By the way, that is an interesting thread, you should read it if you get the chance and have an interest in Jon.

Anyway, if you have read his interviews from the 90s, you know he was obsessed with going fishing. I mean, he really was. He frequently talked about it. I always wondered why he loved fishing so much. So, this is just a theory I developed about it, based on what I have read, but I really don’t have enough information about Jon to know for sure. I just thought it was interesting, so I wanted to share it. If Jon ever reads this board, it would be an interesting thing for him to think about, if he hasn’t already. Because he said in an interview, that he has no idea why he got bit by the fishing bug. And people have commented before that it is weird that Jon loved to go fishing, yet he was a vegetarian and proclaimed to love animals. And having a degree and interest in Psychology, I like to try to figure out behavior.

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Maybe Jon was trying to relive the memories and recreate the good feelings he had, when he was with his father. But it would never really work, unless his father was with him. But maybe he was trying to go back to a good time in his life, so he started wanting to plan fishing trips, and go fishing in many different places around the world. He may have just had a longing for those times with his dad and that was how he dealt with it.

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If you look at the topic "So, what's he doing now?" on this message board, we have been talking about how and when Jon became estranged from his father. I think it was because of his parents divorce, not Jon's fame. Jon was a child at that time, and I am appalled that his parents let him become so disconnected from his father. It's inexcusable. I hope that Jon has reconnected with his father now too.

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I think there is a good chance that Jon and Steve have reconnected.

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The father-son relationship might have been the underlying reason he loved fishing but it then grew to a genuine love for the activity?
I don't know, I think you're looking too far into this.

Cheers.

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Something that I would advise Jon to do, if he hasn't already, is call his father and tell him this: that he is an adult, has a mind of his own, and wants to like his father. When Jon was still a minor, and after his parents divorce, Jon was pretty much controlled by Claudine. He was completely dependent on her, and so he pretty much had to be loyal to her. And I think that may have made it hard for his father to really try to get close to Jon.

I know it is true that sometimes a person will detach from someone, in a separation, because it is too painful to feel close to someone if you can't really be with them. That doesn't mean that you don't love this person. I think maybe Steve detached from Jon somewhat because it may have been too painful to feel really close to him if he couldn't really be with him. I've seen this kind of thing happen. And I think maybe Steve needs to be reminded that Jon now has a mind of his own. Steve could think that Jon is too far gone and just thinks like his mother now. In my opinion, Jon should have called his father and talked to him about this when he was 18 or 19, but if he hasn't, it's never too late, especially with family.

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I have ready nearly all of your posts. And even though there could be truth in this, how do you know he is estranged from his father because of his mother? Maybe his father didn't care enough to get in touch with his sons. I know the reason I'm mad at my dad is exactly that reason. It has nothing to do with my mom. So hence my comment. But it doesn't really matter anyway, because how do you know this is true?

I really don't think anyone can judge what happened between Jonathan and his father, because we don't know what happened. An entire past life can not be based on some magazine articles and interviews. Jonathan never gave a full interview concerning his dad, so we don't know if any of this information is true. I don't think it is necessary to discuss it anyway, since it is his private life. So maybe instead of going ahead and judging a woman none of us know, or commenting on what should have happened in Jonathan's life, maybe we should just stop discussing it and stay out of it.

It's just my opinion, but we'll never know the truth, just like we don't know what happened between Jonathan and the cast of HI. Or why he didn't go to the TV Land Awards. We don't know and we never will, unless Jonathan talks about it. But maybe he is so done with the entertainment business, he never will.

I say, just leave it and accept that these things happened for whatever reason. I hope he does come back to acting, because I always thought he was a great actor, despite everything that happened. But if he doesn't, that's his choice ;)

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Well, you are right I don't know if he was estranged from his father because of his mother. That is just a theory and I've made that clear in my posts, my posts are my opinions. I don't know what happened with Jon and his father. But whatever the reason, I just hope he has considered everything, thought about why Steve wasn't in his life so much, and considered building a better relationship with him. This kind of thing is not always the fathers fault. And it's not always so simple that the father just didn't care enough and that's that.

I just find this kind of thing interesting because Psychology is my profession and I study this kind of thing. As for talking about Jon, he put himself out there as a celebrity. I don't think there is anything wrong with talking about aspects of his life. People speculate on and discuss celebrities lives all the time, with whatever information they were given to go on. That's what this board is for, so if people come here and like to do that, I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

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