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why do his movies look so dated?


Has anyone else noticed how bad his movies have looked on Blu-ray? They always appear super grainy and foggy. It always looks as though someone rubbed Vaseline on the screen.

It doesn't seem to be the result of bad transfers either, as even the latest 2020 release of Flashdance had the same sort of grainy look to it. It seems to have something to do with the type of film stock he used. Whatever the case, his movies look like the kind of thing I would've shot with my crappy Panasonic 4K camcorder back in 2018. Weird, coming from one of Hollywood's great "visual stylists" of his era.

Anyone know why his films look the way they do?

Here's proof if anyone's interested:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fatal-Attraction-Blu-ray/4627/#Screenshots

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/9-Weeks-Blu-ray/34025/#Screenshots

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Foxes-Blu-ray/101903/#Screenshots

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He shot on film, often with film stocks that were grainy, and he used that smoke-filled look that Tony Scott often used (probably a combination of smoke and a filter), plus lenses that give that ‘zoomed in’ feel. Personally I think his films look great, you can totally smell the environment.

He’s especially good at evoking dank, wet New York.

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I agree 100%. I don't think his movies have aged well, aside from how dated they look - they kind of seem ridiculous nowadays. Except for one - "Fatal Attraction". "Fatal Attraction" still holds up as a terrific film today.

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Agreed, and even that one's just a once watch affair for me. It's by no means a bad film, it just feels somewhat quaint and perfunctory when compared to something like Gone Girl, for instance. The original ending they filmed but later scrapped for the sake of commercial appeal, robs the film of any long lasting impact it could've had. As is, it's just a competent but somewhat routine and unremarkable marriage suspense thriller.

Overall, Lyne wasn't a terrible director but he certainly didn't amount to much other than being a MTV visual stylist. Like his contemporaries (Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, Alan Parker etc), Lyne was really only innovative for being one of the first major Hollywood directors to have come from an advertising background. Unfortunately for him, though, that also happens to be his weak suit, as none of his films ever felt particularly nuanced or thoughtful (or if they did, it wasn't because of the way they were directed) as Adrian was clearly more concerned with lights and cameras than story (but even then, as said before, the visuals in his films are largely dated).

I have a theory that for every director, the way their early works were made, dictates what their approach to filmmaking will be for the rest of the career, regardless of size or budget. David Fincher for instance, is another director largely defined by his early commercials and VFX work with ILM, as he remains very much the visual stylist and powerhouse technician he's always been. Difference with him, though, is that Fincher gradually grew and matured as a filmmaker, whereas Lyne really didn't.

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Agreed on everything you said except for one thing - I think you are underestimating "Fatal Attraction". Sure it looks dated - but it's still a top notch movie, IMO. Plus I think you are wrong RE: the scrapped ending. The ending that was used was fine. It wrapped up the film perfectly.

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Balls. Lyne is not only a visual maestro, but a great actor’s director, always getting superb performances and finding precise emotional dynamics, Mickey Rourke raves about him.

Jacob’s Ladder and Fatal Attraction are top-draw classics, and his other films are always worth checking out.

Dude wipes the floor with modern filmmakers, and his smokey, grainy, long-lens aesthetic is far more powerful and expressive than today’s sterile digital look.

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Based on the Fatal Attraction and 9 Weeks frames I would say the look is a combination of diffuse lighting and diffusion filters. Also, some scenes seem to be shot in dim available light requiring the use of fast (grainy) film.

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