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I think she steals the show in many roles


If it isn't her playing a hooker in 1987's "Street Smart", a booze cruiser in 1988's "Clean and Sober", then it's her character in "Picket Fences". Then there's here frisky character in "Edward Scissorhands". Wow, I didn't realize she shares a birthday with my mother (who passed in late July). Hey, I'm a Gemini sign too (born may 24th); nevertheless, I think she's a fine performer.

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The only movie of hers I've seen was Edward Scissorhands, but I don't remember her in it.

Sorry about your Mom. I lost mine in 2007.



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Sorry about your mom in 2007; my mom was my best friend, and I just miss our talks real bad. If you were close to your mom, I relate to your pain.
Oh, but Kathy Baker is the real deal; I highly recommend "Street Smart" especially.

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Thanks gluserty, I appreciate that. I was very close to her, and miss her terribly. Thanks for the recommendation on Street Smart.



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Yeah, my mother being gone is the worse thing that has ever happened to me; I plan to move, somewhere warm. I can't live in Western New York anymore, the memories burn too deep. I'm sorry about your loss as well, as it sounds heartbreaking. I bet your mom would be so proud of you being strong, and it sounds like she was a good lady.

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Thanks for your kind words. She was.

Hang in there gluserty, it will get better eventually. You have to give it time.



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Yeah, I agree; I need time. It's just, you know someone for 35 years (I don't remember my first five years too well:-), and she's such a big part of your life (I moved out of state to North Carolina for a time, but we always visited); plus the season, the snow here...there's a real void there. I've never cried so much for someone my entire life, sometimes they are happy tears (we had some cool memories), but today, they're sad tears. I hope I'm not stirring up too many ghosts for you or burdening you with all this.

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No you're not, gluserty. We all need someone to talk to at times like these. I have no magic words. All I can do is express my sympathy, and I know from experience that helps, just a little. It hasn't been long since she passed, so I understand what you're going through. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and eventually the pain will decrease. It may not ever go away, but it will decrease.

BTW, I'm a Leo, born on July 24.



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Two months after me, you're birthday! Yeah, the only magic I want is the snow to melt around here, so I can get to leaving (well, the rock salt I threw helped). Then again, it's like I'm in a quandary; I need to leave, yet I can't now, and there are responsibilities here anyway. I'm prepped though, just need better roads to work with (I'm driving a Toyota Corolla, not a 4x4:-)!
But yeah, Christmas for me this year is a loss: I loved decorating my mother's fireplace with those 100 count light bulbs, but that isn't a thing this year, and it weighs on me a bit. Thanks for listening to me though; it counts for something, really.

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I'm glad to help, gluserty. It's good to hear that it has helped. Hope your move goes smoothly as soon as the snow melts.



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Yeah, I'm traveling 1,270 to Florida, so I couldn't be reckless or hasty here; sometimes being careful is everything:-)

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Drive careful and have a good time on the way! Do you know which part of Florida you're headed for?



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Titusville, close to Orlando; I have a friend there who I want to visit and give a few things to (like a TV and instant coffee:-). From then on out, it's finding permanent residence and a job.

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Wow, cool! That's near the Kennedy Space Center. I've visited that twice.



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Yeah, my friend has gone to Cape Canaveral a few times, and she seemed to enjoy herself as well; that friend I speak of, she's just been a bright light in a dark tunnel for me. In a different situation, I'd still like her, but she's done a lot for me these last few months (being a voice to listen to has been the best; in a different life, I may have loved her; I love her anyway, but I could've loved her like a girlfriend or something further).

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Yes Cape Canaveral is a really cool place. I've visited it twice, recently in 2016, and the first time way back in 1970. I took the bus tour, and photographed Apollo 13 sitting on the launch pad. I had no idea how that mission would turn out when I took the photo.

As to your friend, you never know. Maybe she will become more than just a friend.
Meanwhile it's good that you have her in your life, since she has been there for you.



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I'd like to see Cape Canaveral myself; sounds like fun.
Um, I think there's a little spark between this lady friend I speak of and I; I just don't want to ruin our bond that we established. Plus, like me, she feels burned by past relationships. She is very pretty, (she got mad at me the other week for saying she was frumpy, but I meant her clothing; I find her very attractive in general) and in the right mood can be quite fun, plus she's SO smart (smarter than me, but then again, I think women are smarter than guys:-). She's amazing, and I care about her so much. She knows all this, but she likes to keep things under wraps, so...I don't know.

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Good luck, and please don't ever use the word "frumpy" around her again.
No woman wants to be called that.



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Yeah, that was a dumb thing to say; I really didn't mean her per se, but yeah, I blew it there. I'm kind of a dumb guy sometimes. Like she told me, no one in the history of Planet Earth has called her that. I just meant that she wears regular shirts and jeans a lot. But, no excuse for saying that, and I remain very sorry, and foolish about it. I never meant to hurt someone who means so much to me.

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Okay it was dumb, but don't beat yourself up about it. It's ancient history now. She has probably forgiven you for it anyway. The next time you see her or talk to her, think of something nice to say.

Remember, men live on food, water and air. Women live on food, water and compliments.



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Yeah, we're alright with it (she even sent me a current photo of herself; wow, does she look great!). This lady, she doesn't handle compliments well, but I supply them on an everyday basis (minus my dummy thought). She really is an excellent lady, maybe I have feelings that go with that, but I'd tell her that regardless. I get so excited when she calls, hearing her cool voice and cool thoughts; yeah, she brings me to life when I hear from her. Yeah, I suppose I do LOVE her love her, huh? I know she makes me happy and nervous.
She texted me a message on September 8th, that I was the coolest guy she's ever known, who is patient, caring, and understanding, and cares about her a lot, and how lucky she is? The sweetest thing any person ever wrote to me.

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That sounds encouraging, but remember she might just consider you a friend. Of course that could change. In any case take it slow and easy, and good luck.



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Yeah, she probably just considers me a friend, and I'm okay with that, and thanks for the good luck.

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You're welcome.



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Well, our typing chat has meant a lot to me:-)

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I'm glad to hear that because helping people is one of my three main purposes in life. The other two are to simply my life, and work on my bucket list.

BTW I loved the movie Bucket List with Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman.



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I'd like to help people more (doesn't it just make you feel good inside? Like those Shriners hospital kids; I think they're amazing!), I've just been so busy digging myself out of a hole that I haven't had the opportunity to really focus on being helpful as much as I'd like. Oh yeah, I like "The Bucket List" as well; that lady friend I told you about? She really likes Morgan Freeman in general (especially "The Shawshank Redemption"; me too!).
But yeah, I thought you've been very kind and soothing; it's nice to know you're not alone in the world, which is a feeling I've had from time to time the last 4+ months:-)

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Thank you. I'm glad I could help, and I appreciate your kind words. Remember, nobody is truly alone in this world. As John Donne says "No man is an island."

BTW, Shawshank is one of my favs.



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John Donne? You like literature and writing too? That's what I do, I write; I'm not famous or anything, but I love it more than any activity:-)

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That's interesting. What do you write?

Yes I do enjoy literature. My favorite genre is Sci-Fi: Douglas Adams, Isaac Assimov, Ray Bradbury, Arthur C. Clarke, and Robert Heinlein.



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I mostly write small pieces; they're like poems, but more dialogue driven. I've been writing since I was 18, so I have notebooks full of things even I forgot about:-). Now, I'm not saying it's all good (22 years of writing and some duds will happen, like filmmaking:-)
Oh yeah, i like the works of Ray Bradbury (I have to go with "Fahrenheit 451" and "The Martian Chronicles" there) and Arthur C. Clarke has been fun for me at times (I liked "Imperial Earth" the best). Hey, you ever read any of Aldous Huxley's work? His stuff is out there (love "Brave New World").

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The only Huxley I've read is "Brave New World".

Do you make a living selling your writing? That can be very difficult. As Olin Miller says, "Writing is the hardest way to make a living with the possible exception of wrestling alligators.



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It's part of my living; I sold antiques for awhile, and various other "Factotom"-type jobs. Now, I'm just packing up, headed further south, like the great Sonny Crockett said, "Where the weather is warm and the drinks are cold, and I don't know the name of the players":-)

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Aha! I do know the names of the players. Who's on first, what's on second,
I don't know's on third, tomorrow is pitching, today is catching, why is in left field, because is in center field, and I don't give a darn is at shortstop! I can't remember the name of the right fielder unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg

BTW, what's a "Factotom' type job? I googled it, but didn't find anything.



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Oh, it's Abbott and Costello

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Yes, in the greatest, and most often imitated comedy routine in history. It's even in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown NY.



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Well, I'm glad you like the classics like Abbott and Costello:-).

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Yes. I also love The Marx Brothers, W.C. Fields, and Laurel and Hardy.



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Cool that you love the old school; W.C. Fields was dirty before Red Foxx!

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Yes, but the brilliance of W.C. Fields was that he let the audience do the writing. Thus he would exclaim "Godfrey Daniel!", which of course, was his way of saying "God Damn!"



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I agree; I think he was like George Carlin before George Carlin, in that era.

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Yes, that's a good analogy.



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Thanks! I try to follow the arts and make associations (I think George Carlin followed Danny Kaye and Lenny Bruce, which is TOTALLY interesting to me; I mean, those performers are like night and Day!).

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You're welcome, and yes they are.


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I may have spelled it wrong; a factotum is someone who does various jobs if life, and never really defines a particular job.

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Yes. You spelled it factotom. That's a new word for me. Sounds like you have a good vocabulary.



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Yeah, I'm a reasonably decent speller, but I screwed the pooch on that word initially. Sorry! Overall, I write, so words are kind of my thing (which explains why I'm poor; I should've been a mechanic, or a car salesman:-).
Speaking of the 2005 film "Factotum", did you ever view it?

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No apology necessary. We all make mistakes. No, I have never seen Factotum, but it looks interesting. Of course the trailers are made to accomplish that.



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That's true about trailers, but I feel Matt Dillon was fun in that role, and Marisa Tomei did a good job too (then again, I've always liked her).

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I might give it a shot if I find the time. So many movies, so little time.



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Yeah, I know what you mean about being busy; I've been shoveling snow and packing (had to quit my job in the village, all in preparation to move).
Yeah, I viewed "Factotum" back in 2007, and my life was totally different then. My life now I would call it, at best, indefinable.

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We all face adversity in our lives, the important thing is how we react. Do we give up, or get back on the horse? I've always gotten back on the horse. I know it's a cliche, but it's true: Failure is a pathway to success. I can tell that you are going to succeed, because you're intelligent, talented,
and self aware.

Meanwhile, please enjoy this video. It's one of my favs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc



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I never say die, never fade to black, or, like the Corey Hart song from the 1980's goes, "Never Surrender". Hey, it's like they say: cliches are cliches for a reason, because they occur very often.
Cool video! Ha ha, I bought this CD of this band back in 1998! Excellent song (I'm a Vodka, and ONLY Vodka person; beer is good for dinner, wine is classy, but the hard stuff is just Vodka for me:-).

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I've never seen Street smart and i haven't seen Edward scissorhands in years.I remember her mostly as the mom on Picket fences.She was great in that.

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Oh yeah, i thought she was too; I thought "Picket Fences" had a bit of a "Twin peaks" feel to it. I felt Tom Skerritt was good in that show as well (holy crow, he's 84? Wow, time sure flies, just like "Top Gun").

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Wasn't she in Cider House Rules? If not I'm sorry, but that is a great film, and I thought the two nurses in the story brought a lot to the whole scenario. I've always liked Kathy Baker a lot.

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Yes, she was in "The Cider House Rules":-) She was overshadowed by the likes of Tobey Maguire and Charlize Theron there, but again, I felt she was effective in a small role (the nurses, I felt, set up the meaningfulness of the story, like Louise Fletcher's Nurse Ratched character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", but more helpful!).

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