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Baldwin case dismissed


https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/12/alec-baldwin-case-dismissed-hiding-evidence-cries-misconduct-prosecutor/

how to get away with murder

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Classic Baldwin. Pretty good story, a little drawn out, crappy ending.

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Exactly. It's on a technicality. Not that it'll ever happen, but if I ever see that guy, I'm pointing and screaming, "Murderer!" I hope everyone does.

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I hope you get stabbed in the face for being such a nasty, hateful person.

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So you believe he didn't pull the trigger when the experts were going to testify that it couldn't go off without him pulling the trigger?

I don't like people getting by with murder. I guess you do.

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I hate people who think they need to punish other people outside the law.

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You don’t think the armorer and the people proven to have tampered with evidence should be called murderers? Or do you forgive them because they didn’t mock Emperor Trump on TV?

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I have a friend in the business who worked in a Western. When she was given a gun, it was understood she was the last person to have a chance to inspect it. Having seen the difference between live rounds and blanks, it doesn't take an armorer to tell the difference. If Baldwin wasn't so anti-NRA, they could have had someone from that group showing him about gun safety. If you're merely rehearsing, there's no reason whatsoever to have ANY rounds in the gun. But there is especially no reason to have your finger on the trigger. It couldn't have gone off without him cocking it and pulling the trigger, which he kept lying and saying he didn't. But he must have. He also broke every rule of gun safety.

Last one who could have inspected it. The man with his finger on the trigger. Oh, golly. Whose fault is it ultimately? Yes, ding every person who failed along the way, but who pulled the trigger?

BTW, I liked him in Hunt for Red October. And he was the perfect "man you love to hate" in Mercury Rising.
If Trump had pulled the trigger, you'd want him serving some time, and frankly, so would I. Break every rule of gun safety and walk? That's not justice, no matter what your name is.

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Good call. Prosecutor playing games with the evidence.

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Yep. It's good he can afford good lawyers to catch shit like that. Too bad the rest of us can't. I'm glad they were caught. They never had enough evidence anyway to try this case!!

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"law enforcement had concealed evidence that prevented the actor from preparing his defense."

That happens all the time. How many innocent people are in prison for years/decades because of it?

I never believed Baldwin should've been charged. The armorer and the idiot who hired an unqualified person were responsible.

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That is Baldwin and other producers. All producers should have been charged.

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Nah! It's common knowledge that actors will add a producer credit to get more money from the studio, but have zero producer responsibilities. Target the real producers who actually had producing job responsibilities.

BTW, the armorer was drinking, smoking pot and using cocaine on the set. Obviously, others knew since she asked a person to hide her stash before the police arrived.

Article also says that guns accidentally discharged twice. Why and how? Baldwin claimed the same thing had happened to him. What's up with those guns on the Rust set?

"Ryan Smith and Allen Cheney, who have a checkered history with financial and safety issues on their films."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/rust-armorer-fair-shot-trial-1235823841/

"Line producer Pickle was criticized for unsafe working conditions and workers walked off the Rust set."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/rust-line-producer-labor-violation-1235038353/

You can't charge someone because you don't like their politics.

Repeated and multiple unsafe work conditions = an accident waiting to happen.

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Well thats why he SHOULD have been charged for being shitty producer. All those stupid actors always want more credit and steal job of director and producer. He put his name as producer and should have been charged as producer along with other producers.

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LOL! I don't believe being a "shitty producer" is a criminal offense.

I hope you read my links. The working conditions were extremely dangerous and higher-ups too nonchalant about it except for crew members who protested by walking off set. No surprise the director lost her life under those conditions.

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"How to get away with murder"

He didn't murder anyone. He unintentionally killed someone because he was negligent and stupid. That's not murder.

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Hey, this is the internet. Nuance doesn't belong here! What do you think you're doing?

/kidding

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When you pull out gun and pull the trigger - it's intentionally

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ROTFLMAO! Not on a movie set.

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It was rehearsal. And scene was not needed to take gun and pull trigger. He was just playing around with gun.

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ROTFLMAO! Stop doubling down on your nonsense, emori. When wrong, you don't need to always reply.

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Well we don't know all the facts though and it certainly could have been murder, and being that it never went to trial we likely will never know. Statements like this though set one up for being called out to prove a negative and that's a bad day for anyone.

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with prejudice.

Baldwin fans are acting like this proves his innocence when it was thrown out due to misconduct by the prosecution.

The armorer was completely incompetent and hadn't taught the actors how to properly handle guns on set, but I think Baldwin knew better than to be handling the gun like he did after the many years he's spent on sets. He did lie about pulling the trigger.

I think that's what the case would have come down to. Ah well.

I wonder if this will affect the armorer's appeals? If it turns out the prosecutors did the same thing in her case, she might have something there.

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She will be out on parole anyway before her appeal will come in action. She has ridiculously low sentence.

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True.

She probably would want her conviction taken off her record, though. And she might be able to sue if there was serious misconduct during her trial.

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Baldwin has handled guns before.

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Yeah. I believe he should have known better than to be pointing the guns at crew members while rehearsing on set. Is that enough for manslaughter, though? Case was thrown out now, so legally it's done.

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I thought we were arguing whether it should be done. I doubt seriously if any of us would get the case tossed. But it's things like this, where a big chunk of the population doesn't believe his, "I didn't pull the trigger!" story, that can ruin a man's reputation. I think, if anything, he's doomed to work on a dying SNL. Not very likely to work on a movie any time soon, no matter how many facelifts he gets.

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Should never have gotten this far.

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