Is his usage of the N-word often completely unnecessary? I think so.
Reservoir Dogs - check. Completely unnecessary scene where Steve Buscemi's character talks about how niggers are unprofessional and always fighting.
True Romance - check. Now he didn't direct this but he wrote it. There's a whole speech about how 'niggers' polluted Sicilian blood.
Pulp Fiction - check. Tarantino himself shouting at Sam Jackson about niggers.
Jackie Brown - check. General usage by Chris Tucker and Sam Jackson.
Kill Bill 1 and 2 - one of the few movies I can't remember it being used at all but I may be wrong.
Inglourious Basterds - check. Only black character in the movie referred to as a nigger on several occasions.
Django Unchained - check. 'Nuff said.
The Hateful Eight - check. Right from the opening scene.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - can't remember. Only movie of his i've only watched once.
At best I think it's a minority of his movies where the word is required to tell the story. At worst it's completely unnecessary and I see why people get offended by it.
You could have written this post and got your point across without using the word. You did so in your title. You chose not to do so in the body text. You used the word numerous times. You'd probably argue that contextually your use of the word, while it may be shocking to some, is not intended to offend. You may also argue freedom of speech and, again, argue that contextually your use of the word does not qualify as hate speech. Context is key.
Therefore, you can't justifiably criticise Tarantino for doing the same thing in his films, even if you believe the word's use to be 'unnecessary'.
The director has argued -- as has Samuel L. Jackson -- that his use of the word is authentic to the characters and anything else would be dishonest.
Tarantino has also argued (sensibly) that if you don't like his films, you shouldn't watch them. I can understand someone being offended once or twice by a Tarantino film. If people are still getting offended 30 years in to his career, they've made some odd viewing choices.
I don't have a problem with the word being used if that is the subject matter to begin with. The argument is Tarantino will shoehorn the word in even when it's completely unnecessary even within the context of the movie. Childish counter-argument.
Tarantino has also argued (sensibly) that if you don't like his films, you shouldn't watch them.
Another childish argument. Nowhere did I say I didn't like his movies. The subject was specifically about the use of the N-word often being superfluous. Child.
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Surprised to see a quip like this from you. Doesn’t seem like your style to take a shot at disabled people. Also ironic if meant as a criticism for OPs use of racial epithets.
don't have a problem with the word being used if that is the subject matter to begin with.
Yes. Because you think the use is justified by the context, right?
Tarantino thinks the use of the word is justified by context in his films. So you both make an argument from context.
I don't think your use of the word here is justified by context. You probably disagree. You don't think Tarantino's use of the word is justified by context. He definitely disagrees.
And it can't reasonably be of any importance or use to anybody anywhere that you disagree with Tarantino's use being justified by context. Because you are not the arbiter of these things. But that is his argument, which is essentially the same as yours. This is not difficult to grasp.
But you don't actually want to debate this, do you? You just wanted to use the word in the hope of getting a reaction and then to throw what you imagine to be 'insults' around such as 'child' and '12 year old'. Your choice of insults tells us more than you may have intended about your own adolescent mindset, so I'll leave you to your drivelling insecurities.
Yes. Because you think the use is justified by the context, right?
Tarantino thinks the use of the word is justified by context in his films. So you both make an argument from context.
Your argument is completely nonsensical and i'm sure you're aware of it. I am referencing the dialogue in his movie to make a point, I am not superfluously using the word throughout a 30+ year filmography. It's akin to reprimanding someone for describing the verbal abuse they received and then treating them as the culprit for using the same words. Pathetic and childish debating tactic.
The context argument doesn't work either. There are countless instances where the word is thrown around for the sake of it and has no contextual basis.
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The context argument is the one you are using, even if for some obscure reason you are unaware of it.
You are effectively claiming that your use of the word is contextually justified, but that Tarantino's is not. But you aren't the person to make that judgement. You can have an opinion on it, because anyone can, but you aren't any kind of accepted authority on the matter.
Again, if you justify your use of the word through context, it's permissible for anyone else to do so. Whether you think something is justified by its context is immaterial to my argument and hasn't at any stage entered into it.
If you were to tell me that the word should never be used, you would at least have a consistent position. But instead you're telling me that it can be used in some contexts. Tarantino would evidently agree with you. He just wouldn't agree with you on which contexts justify it and which do not.
And I can assure you, he's put a lot more thought into the matter -- and fielded a lot more questions on the topic -- than you ever have or will.
You are effectively claiming that your use of the word is contextually justified
And this is where your entire argument falls flat. I am not using the word, I am describing someone else's use of the word. There is a distinct difference. Either you're purposefully acting obtuse or you have an autistic linear thought process. I'm not sure which one it is.
And I can assure you, he's put a lot more thought into the matter -- and fielded a lot more questions on the topic -- than you ever have or will.
Again, another useless argument. Every filmmaker on this website has put more thought and fielded more questions on the topic of their movies. That is not a requirement to post on these boards, nor does it negate any criticism of a filmmaker. Secondly, he has an incentive to defend himself whether it's right or wrong. He is not the judge/jury on the criticism of his movies, the audience are. And it is a common criticism that he overuses the N-word in his movies.
Like I said, your arguments are childish and intellectually dishonest. Keep 'em coming though, you seem like you enjoy being taken down a peg.
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And that's how you're justifying its use -- through context.
Again, you're using a linear thought process and purposefully acting obtuse. Since you want to continue being intellectually dishonest and repeat yourself, I will do the same.
I am not using the word, I am describing someone else's use of the word. There is a distinct difference. Either you're purposefully acting obtuse or you have an autistic linear thought process. I'm not sure which one it is.
He's doing the same thing you are: arguing from context. If you can, so can he.
He's free to defend himself, but the audience are also free to criticise. So we're going round in circles here and your posts have been completely pointless. Run along now. reply share
"You could have written this post and got your point across without using the word. You did so in your title. You chose not to do so in the body text. You used the word numerous times. You'd probably argue that contextually your use of the word, while it may be shocking to some, is not intended to offend. You may also argue freedom of speech and, again, argue that contextually your use of the word does not qualify as hate speech. Context is key."
Hmm...you are offended by the usage of the word.
I see your name is capuchin. Sounds like cappuccino. Do you know the origin of Cappuccino?
"...the actual cappuccino was invented in Italy, and the name was adapted to become 'Cappuccino.' It was first made in the early 1900a, shortly after the popularization of the espresso machine in 1901. The first record of the cappuccino we have found was in the 1930s."
It doesn't say where in Italy. It may have originated in Northern Italy where they have blonde hair and blue eyes.
If it originated in Sicily that is another matter entirely. Are you Sicilian capuchin?
You see, hundreds and hundreds of years ago the Moors conquered Sicily.
Cappuccino is named after capuchin friars' robes, because it's a similar colour to the robes worn by that order. And capuchin friars are so-called because of their hoods. The word stems from the Latin for 'hood'. I, however, am named after the monkey -- which, in turn, is also named after the friars.
I'm not sure what you imagine yourself to be conveying with your post. But good luck with it.
What an original thought. No celebrity has to care about anything anyone says on this site. That's not the point of these message boards. So thanks for that completely useless post.
Most of these examples involve racist people just being racist. One example is of two black dudes using it which isn’t uncommon or generally thought of as wrong.
The point i'm making is he clearly displays a childish infatuation with the word and often shoehorns it into the script.
For example in Reservoir Dogs, was it really necessary for a white character to randomly bring up 'niggers' being unprofessional and always fighting?
In Pulp Fiction, was it really necessary for Tarantino's character to be screaming about a 'dead nigger storage' to Sam Jackson? Did it even make sense within the context of the script? Sam Jackson is meant to be the baddest mofo on the planet, and he has some skinny nerdy looking white boy screaming the N-word in his face. It's completely unnecessary and not even believable within the context of the script.
The scene in Pulp Fiction was superfluous (or at least the usage of the n-word). The Reservoir Dogs scene was there to show Mr Orange being one of the guys and gaining trust.
Did you think the same thing when Scorsese had Jack Nicholson bring them up out of nowhere, for no reason in the beginning voice over in the Departed? Was he being childish and shoehorning it in?
Why dont you just use the word "nigger"?
If anyone should be offended by it, its the pieces of shit who enslaved other people and discriminated against them for so long.