I had family who died in the camps, so I’ve always been fascinated with that time.
Wtf
shareHow is that a WTF?
Did you read the whole interview or are you just trying to stir the pot?
She also said that her biggest childhood fear was that someone would knock on the door and drag them off to be murdered, like her father's family, who's lives were taken in the Holocaust.
This is more context for the quote
She additionally noted why, up until now, she's been quiet on the matter.
"It’s a hard thing for me to talk about because I had family who died in the camps, so I’ve always been fascinated with that time," she said.
In her interview with The Daily Mirror, Ryder said that she used to spend a lot of time in the library doing research on the Holocaust.
"I couldn’t stop turning the pages and thought, ‘This is horrible, why am I doing this?,'" she said.
“Then I realized maybe I was looking for my family, for someone I recognized," she continued.
Why is this fascinating?
Also, I read a different article but even with added content she cant help but sound gullible.
I take it you've never been fascinated with the nastier parts of history?
I can't speak for Winona, but I understand her fascination, and somewhat share it.
How is that gullible?
Yea. Never. Is not something to be fascinated by but horrified. It goes with her known airheadedness.
shareA person can be fascinated by horrifying things.
You don't like her, that's obvious, but there are a lot of historians that are fascinated by horrible parts of history. There are authors, and artists who are fascinated by some of the nastier aspects of humanity's past. Please don't pretend that it's unheard of or even something to be looked down upon. It's not you're thing....that's fine.
Stanley Kubrick was a notorious airhead as well: his fascination with the third Reich and Joseph Goebbels's propaganda activities are well documented.
It will forever be his great loss that he never got to hear you tell him how he should have felt about it. Or that most sane persons' capability for ambivalence about any subject was in fact a delusion.
Yes, but let's say for a second you are a famous person and I take the above quote out of context and start a thread titled "It goes with her known airheadedness" with a nice little "WTF is airheadedness" under it. Just to make you look stupid. Would you think I was being maybe a bit immature and unreasonable, and maybe ignoring the point of what you're trying to say? That's what this thread seems like to me.
shareDO YOU MAKE A HABIT OF DEFENDING DEFLATED POINTS OF VIEW IN THE FACE OF MORE RATIONAL THINKING?...OR IS THIS WHOLE POST A JOKE?🙂
shareFascinating means extremely interesting....I might say extremely disturbing, extremely horrifying... but interesting? Sorry but genocide isn't something a sane person would glibly state they found to be fascinating... You can find it fascinating to see someone build a ship in a bottle or carve a name in a grain of rice... but fascinating doesn't fit with genocide. If you don't see that, then you either have no clue what the word fascinating means or you are clueless.
shareSee, this is where you read what you want to read into things.
I never said that the murder of millions of people is interesting. But the situation is to me. You can say that I'm clueless, whatever.
If you don't find it interesting to look back and try to understand how something like that can happen, I'm not going to judge you. How good people allowed all this to happen happens to be very interesting to me. Especially when it's still so poignant.
There have been countless movies, tv shows, books, and art about this, so again, it's not odd to have a fascination with a specific period where horrible things have happened. Horror movies wouldn't be popular if there wasn't interest in the macabre. Serial killers wouldn't have books and movies written about them if people didn't find them interesting.
You've missed my point completely. We are not talking about a person far removed from a horrible act we are talking about a decedent of people killed in a horrible act. It may be interesting to someone outside the circle of something terrible but it is not going to be interesting to the person involved. That would be the equivalent of someone that had their own child raped and murdered saying that's interesting. A sane person wouldn't react like that. And I used the word "interesting" instead of fascinating to make a point. Fascinating is defined as extremely interesting, and the simple fact is a sane person doesn't find their murder of their family members interesting even though that is not even as ridiculous as finding it extremely interesting... replace the word interesting with fascinating and it is just as ridiculous.
shareAgain, I didn't miss your point at all.
Yes I am removed from the situation. The history is fascinating. I use that word because that's what I mean. It is very, very interesting to me. It can be very, very interesting to someone who's family it had happened to. I'm not going to judge that. I'm going to assume that Winona didn't actually know these family members because she wasn't born when it happened. So why can't she be interested/fascinated in/by what happened to them?
She also said that she was fascinated with the time....not the murders.
If she said it was fascinating then she is fucking nuts. It would be the same thing having your kid murdered on August 14th 2010 and then saying you found the date August 14th 2010 fascinating. You might find that fascinating, but the she would not because it would be her kid that was killed. If she never said fascinating and you are just trying to paraphrase what she said then that may be the disconnect but if she really referred to the time of her family being killed as fascinating then she's fucked up. The time of the murders is married to the act and a person close to the victims wouldn't be divorcing the two things and thinking the time was fascinating.
shareSeriously????
You are the one defending her saying it was "fascinating".
shareAnd I've said that she didn't know these family members.
I have family who died during the Holodomor. My grandmother had not even met these family members as she was a baby when it happened and her parents managed to get out of the country before hand. I know nothing about these people except that they are names on family tree. But because of this I shouldn't be allowed to have a huge interest in this period of history because it would make me insane?
Okay.