Basis for Manhattan and creepy as hell.
https://jezebel.com/woody-allens-alleged-former-teen-girlfriend-speaks-out-1831146255
In the movie, she seemed to like him and he had to convince her to move on. I'll be honest, it did make me feel a little uncomfortable (in the movie), but young, attractive women are spell-binding, especially at first. A woman like that really does make you feel dynamic. Enjoy it if it comes your way, but be careful. The feelings that get hurt may be your own.
shareWords of wisdom. Definitely enjoy the roller coaster ride but realize it will end much more quickly than it began.
shareI once dated a woman 20 years younger than me. She was 24. We had fun for a couple months, but eventually I realized it was just a novel fling for her, and she wasn't going to settle down with a guy like me. I felt kinda used, especially since I don't attract a ton of good-looking women. Almost wish i could have approached it as a meaningless affair, but I genuinely liked her. She turned out to be kind of a Wild Child, getting in minor problems with the law and moving from state-to-state. She laughed about it.
shareI dated a hussy when I was 23..she was so bad her true colors came out almost immediately. Very crazy and very dangerous. I ended up helping her out about 6 months after we broke up but I soon left the area. She was a train-wreck and thankfully I got away just in time.
shareSeems she was happy about it and pursued it.
shareYeah, but that doesn't make it legal.
But this was the 1970s, and back in those days age of consent laws were not strictly enforced... at least when rich and famous people were involved.
The reason they weren't "strictly enforced" is because these teenagers had their own agency and knew what they wanted. The tendency today is to rob them of their agency and continue to belaver the "pedophile" crap despite the fact these young women were the predators. Back in the 70s there was a group calling themselves "Baby Groupies" because they'd sit on the Sunset Strip just waiting for a rock god to screw. Good article here:
https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/obvious-history-rocknrolls-baby-groupies-lori-lightning-sable-starr
http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/25854/1/the-70s-groupies-who-broke-the-rules-of-style-sexuality
https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/i-lost-my-virginity-to-david-bowie
When you have young women like this licking their paws with their sexual prowess, it's a little difficult to think of them as victims. With Maddox shouting to the rooftops of her glee at having Bowie take her virginity when in all reality she could be known as a rapist since Bowie was in a full blown Cocaine/Heroin addiction. So when does she get arrested for her abuse of a man who was clearly not present during the "attack"?
Let me the first to caution you against trying to implement your philosophical arguments in real life. The police take these things so much more seriously these days.
I'm sorry, was my post offensive or did you just not understand it?
shareI guess I should also tell you that railing against age-of-consent laws is going to strike a hell of a lot of people as creepy, and even though there are no criminal penalties attached, it's another of those things that you should never do in real life.
You really ought to look into a Life Coach. You shouldn't rely on internet strangers to tell you these things.
Ah, the lecture about "according myself". How about these Groupies falling all over themselves to "bag the rock god" and then some 40 years later complaining about being abused when they clearly were taken all over the world by these men who bought them any and everything they wanted? Ah, can't see them as anything else but victims. Sad really. Creepy is having sex with a man who was clearly incoherent then being catty with the other groupie over said sex with said rock god.
You really should research the time you're effing up on sooner than looking foolish on message board forums.
"How about these Groupies falling all over themselves to "bag the rock god" and then some 40 years later complaining about being abused"
Can you cite some examples of self identified teenage groupies from forty years ago now claiming underage abuse or are you just riffing because it sounds like something you think yesteryear's groupies in this day and age would do?
I've seen no evidence of this happening. Sable Starr is dead, but she never made such accusations. She was also treated like a minor goddess when on tour and relished her role in her later years. An alive and well Lori Maddox doesn't claim underage abuse either, but admits herself a full and willing participant.
There's a huge difference between fans who naively want to meet their favorite musicians and end up getting exploited/raped and self-confessed groupies who tour with the band and embrace their role as sexual muse. I'm talking about the latter group who fully embraced their underage groupiness but today accuse band members of taking advantage of them.
Lori Mattix was one who was claiming her "innocence was taken from her" until Jimmy Page called her out on her hypocrisy. That's why now she's saying she was a willing participant because Page wasn't having any of her crap.
MeToo wants to strip those groupies of their experience by lumping them into the "you were too young and you were exploited" bunch. Some of them have bitten including stupid Charlotte Lewis who came out accusing Roman Polanski of "abusing her in the worst way". This supposedly happened in 1982. However, she fails to understand her prior interviews can be used against her. Not to forget her cavorting with him in Cannes in 1986... but just so long as she can have her extended 15 minutes. It was well known Lewis would sleep with anything that walked including other men not limited to Eddie Murphy, Michael Douglas, and others all before she even met Polanski. But has she accused them of abuse? Nope. Opportunity knocked and she grabbed it. Just like Mattix.
This kind of makes me angry, I want to get a machine gun and take a bunch of rockstars out
shareNo. Take out the little strumpets who used those rock stars for status symbols. These Baby Groupies knew exactly what they were doing, but since the MeToo movement has allowed them a hard pass on their conduct they'll cry victimhood despite the fact they knew what they were doing when they did it. Don't buy their crap. They did it all for the furs, cars, drugs, parties, and the chance to say they bagged a rock god. Mattix for instance enjoyed the fact she was deflowered by a drugged up David Bowie. Yet who is the one who would get punished by the media/social media had that been known before he died? Bowie, not Mattix for her predatory behaviour. And bank on it, she was a predator.
sharewhatever, lol , I think metoo wasn't a bad thing, the world always gonna be a crazy place, i just feel a little radicalized on how messed up it is
shareI usually hate that word "radicalism" but it is more than appropriate in this case. MeToo is messed up. It says "believe all the women all the time no matter what" and ignores that little sniggly thing called A BOLD WHITE LIE. Women do and have lied about rape and men have paid that price. It's disgusting.
shareOk, I don't really want to argue. Some men came forward as well. I'm glad Weinstein isn't in the business anymore. Just don't ever hit a woman man, I worry about you.
shareI'm a woman who is sick and tired of women of the now 21st Century using men as their whipping boys when they are dissatisfied with their lot. Men who come forward such as Brendan Fraser did, are not embraced. They're laughed at by these very same women for seeking to "hone in" on their rights to be the sole victims.
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/brendan-frasers-metoo-story-is-why-more-male-victims-dont-speak-out
You think I'm hyperbolizing about the "lie". Look at the Duke LaCrosse accuser.
https://nypost.com/2018/06/05/former-college-student-who-claimed-rape-admits-it-was-all-lies/
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/12/everything-we-know-uva-rape-case.html
https://world.wng.org/2019/03/false_convictions_ruined_lives
As for Weinstein, those women wanted something from him. Quid pro quo. Now they're screaming abuse. He even yelled and attacked men. Yet those men haven't come forward. Nope, only women. Complainers seeking exceptional status, not equal status.
In many states even today, that still IS the age of consent.
shareYawn.
Clutch those pearls.
how the fuck does a hot piece of ass like that get anywhere near an ugly fuck like Allen? Allen better thank the Lord he's from a different era cause nowadays somebody who looked and acted like him would never get any, even with his money.
Anyway I have to go pour bleach into my brain so that I can get out the thought of this chick "dreaming about making love to Woody." Holy Christ. The Hollyweird community is the worst.
Woody is awesome,he conquers women with his brain.
shareI loved Manhattan, and I love Woody too.
This is unlike all of the other crimes committed by the others, mostly Republicans.
When you look at Woody, or even Al Franken, they did nothing.
The girl and her parents were OK with it. Allen never paid or drugged the girl. And she never complained.
Just because it is hard to detail what is the difference, does not mean there is not a big difference.
Here comes the creepy PC outrage!
And Cher dated, and lived with, Sonny Bono when she was 16 and he was 28, but nobody brings that up. Not everything is "creepy" because it's trendy to play holier-than-thou. If the model has a problem with it, she can let us know. .
These are difficult situations because I've known women personally who bragged to me about making false harassment claims and getting bosses fired or demoted, and I've been falsely accused more than once. Recently a girl I met once, at a party decades ago, started spreading rumors that "something" happened. I knew nothing happened but that doesn't matter so I started talking with her regularly and she said all was forgiven but wouldn't say what happened. Then one night she drunk texted me and admitted she had a crush on me all this time and was angry that I turned her down for sex at the party, hence the rumors. Win for me because I had it in writing but that is a rare case. I also once lost a job over a false allegation. So when it comes to allegations without evidence, I keep an open mind.
shareWhy not sue these women over false allegations more often? They will think twice before making them. They dont' care about the trauma they are casing these men because men supposedly dont' possess that "specialness" that they think only females have. Or they would throw other women under a bus if it served them in some way
These women bragged to you expecting what type of reaction, nothing?