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I'm just glad I'm old enough to be sure that I won't have to switch to an electric car because within my statistical life expectancy traditional gasoline cars won't become obsolete.

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Same here. I'm driving my last car. When it dies, I'm walking or taking the bus.

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In California beginning in 2035 you can't buy a new gas car. It's closer than you think. Of course Musk in the White House is not good for gas cars. Normally the Republicans would have been against electric vehicles. Now both sides are on board.

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My wife owns a 21 year old car, not because she wouldn't want a new one, but because she wants under all circumstances a convertible with metal roof, such as her Peugeot 206cc and literally all manufacturers of cars have terminated the production of affordable convertibles with metal roof, which is why she will keep the car no matter how expensive repairs will get.
For me it's the same story, only that my BMW was a bit more expensive and is only 8 years old so far, but BMW has switched the series 4 convertible to soft roof some years ago and even for the price of that one there's nothing left on the market.
To my knowledge the cheapest convertible with metal roof is now the BMW series 6 and that one costs $150,000 which is way out of my league.

In short, I have no intention of buying a new car, all I need is the permission to keep using the old one.

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Well I live in California and 2035 is not that far off. So I can't say I'll never end up buying one. Point is, the government is pushing it and in 25 years there will probably be more electric cars on the road than gas.

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That's why I started my first comment with "I'm old enough".
If I were younger or had children, I'd see a problem as well.

How many electric cars will be on the roads is none of my concerns, just the opposite, the less gas cars there will be the cheaper gasoline will get.
For all I know the value of used electric cars falls much faster than the value of gas cars, which means some of the people who change their car every few years won't be able to afford that anymore and what that then leads to remains to be seen.

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It's a concern of mine because I prefer gas cars, and I don't give a rat's ass that life might be easier for someone 100 years from now if I drive an electric car now. And I didn't like the Democrats and the Green New Deal trying to ban gas cars. And I don't like Elon Musk and the Republicans further manipulating the market to force electric cars on everyone.

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There are some fundamental flaws in the belief that electric cars would solve anything related to the environment.
According to scientists we are already so far past the tipping point that we'd need a negative carbon footprint to at least stay below 2Β° warming and that just can't be done with switching everything to electric, simply because producing cars and batteries has its own carbon footprint that only in the very long run results in less CO2 where the "less" is by far not enough to reach negative numbers.

That leaves only few options, depending on how far you believe the science and how far you're willing to go.

If you don't believe the science, you'll want to keep going as if nothing happened anyway, where switching to an electric car is just inconvenient on several levels.
If you're not willing to go as far as scientists say we would have to go, it's the same thing, there's barely any difference between doing nothing and doing not enough, at best it will postpone the problem by a decade or two.

If you're willing to do whatever science says it would take, you might want to research how far that actually is and whether or not you're really willing to go THAT far.
Forgive me if I generalize here a bit, precise numbers are hard to come by and are often still not reliable.
Reaching a negative carbon footprint can be done only by planting vast amounts of forest all over the world, meaning there's no room for all the people, all the cities, all the farm land, all the industries.
It would require terminating roughly 90% of our civilisation, including shrinking the worlds population by 90%, abandon all cars and trucks, all airplanes and ships, all military worldwide, moving out people from all regions that require more energy for heating in winter than solar and wind can provide and MUCH more.
I highly doubt even the greenest Greens would be willing to get anywhere remotely close to that.

Sure, if science is right in some 200 years nature will force life on earth into it, because large parts of the world will become uninhabitable.
The latest predictions say, the warming will stop the water cycle in the north atlantic between the equator and the northern seas, which will trap the heat and make it much hotter than previously thought near the equator while nothern areas will become so much colder than they are today, that both ends will become uninhabitable, only a very narrow band of land roughly in the vertical middle of the US, southern Europe and northern China will remain habitable and it might happen much earlier than in 200 years.
Still it will most likely be past the lifetime of all people who are at voting age now, therefore it's not a miracle that 99.9% of the worlds population (including myself) isn't willing to do what science says needs to be done.

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Say what you will, never forget this story:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/03/us/tesla-crash-cliff-california-cec/index.html

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I remember this story. I'd call it a lucky fluke.
https://media.tenor.com/qHuz7u47b8YAAAAC/winking.gif

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BUT WHEN YOU PASS OTHER TESLA DRIVERS YOU CAN GIVE THE SECRET SIGNAL.πŸ™‚

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If those Lithium Batteries catch fire, they're harder to put out than traditional fires

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The Tesla truck starts at about $80K.
You could buy a brand new Ford F-150 pickup, a really cool fishing boat and a nice trailer for that ugly nonsense.

Those Teslas are ugly.

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