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How did we get the idea to sing?


Talking became the accepted method of communication between human beings from day one apparently. How do you think someone came up with the idea to sing at some point?

I have read that the antidote to anger is singing. If people communicated primarily by singing would there be more peace on Earth?

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Maybe like birds, we originally sang to each other and it was our original mode of communication.

Although if everyone sang to each other, it'd probably get pretty old pretty fast.

I heard someone say dancing originated so that we would look larger as a group to predators and it wouldn't take much to imagine yelling and then singing was part of it.

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I had not heard that about dancing, but if they danced anything like your break dancing last night I can imagine that would be an effective predator deterrent.

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Or the predator would feel sorry for me and put me out of my misery.

Wait a minute, did you just get me to insult my own breakdancing skills?

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No no! I don't want you to get eaten. Maybe we should move away from the topic of dancing.

Let's move back to singing. Just imagine world leaders around a table singing beautifully to each other, or bringing in even better singers like Pavarotti (if he were still alive I think he might be dead) to sing on their behalf. Don't you think that could bring about world harmony?

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Uhm, not to be political but it doesn't check out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7T6x0cl48Q

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I typed three different responses and decided I better delete all three.

Maybe rather than talking about wartime conversations we should just switch to normal conversations. Don't you think if people sang to each other it could lead to a beautiful existence?

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Depends on the song.

If someone sang this to me,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-4ab9i16Q

I'd think it was beautiful but I wouldn't know what the hell they were talking about.

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Well I'm not saying to sing an actual song, although that is lovely. I'm just saying sing your conversation with each other instead of saying it.

Like just simple stuff like hey how are you doing, the weather is lovely isn't it, can I have some of those tater tots?

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"Hey you kid, get off my lawn" but in a Johnny Cash type drawl?

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Perhaps, though some people could take that as being curmudgeonly. Maybe that same statement but sung like a Teletubby.

I have been thinking though, what if somebody has a bad voice and can't hit notes? That could be off-putting. I'm thinking all of those people could be shipped to Antarctica. The only thing down there are penguins and they're not very confrontational. Thoughts?

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Low blow. I'd get be one of those shipped off to Antarctica.

Less than fun fact: mrsparkerbot got so upset with me singing a song off key in the video game Guitar Hero over and over again that she took the mic, without knowing the words, just hummed it and crushed my highest score.

But it's not like I'm still miffed about it.

I'm still miffed about it.

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She sounds like a hoot. In case that's not a Canadian saying, that means it sounds like she has some spunk and is funny.

As for you being shipped to Antarctica, think how fun that could be. You could live in your igloo and do things that people do in igloos and sing to penguins. I really don't get why you're mad.

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Because I knew all the damn words, loved that song and it's just not fair.

Thankfully my breakdancing skills are top level.

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I noticed you completely evaded the penguin igloo portion of my previous post. I would send you postcards. I would just address them to:
PB
That igloo in Antarctica.

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I'd have no time for postcards.

Me and my army of the musically inept would be planning our revenge.

We'd probably foist horrible singers like Taylor Swift and Beyonce on the public so that our singing voices would not sound so bad.

Oops, did I reveal our master plan by mistake?

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All right, all right. No need to incite violence. I'll tell you what, I will buy you one of those auto-tune devices to make you sound amazing and you can stay in Canada and entertain all of the puffins and meese, and win every Guitar Hero game.

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Oh, we're also responsible for auto-tune.

And we also destroyed the concept of the musical group - with more people, odds are one of them can sing well.

Bitter people sure can get stuff done when they put their mind to it.

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I'm learning something unexpected in this experiment. Talking about singing seems to be resulting in increased hostility.

What if I stop talking about singing and just sing? I'm thinking with a Little House on the Prairie theme song backdrop I couldn't go wrong.

https://vocaroo.com/1b0RRYhLG616


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Hate to be the one to break it to you, but you're going to Antarctica as well.

The Musically Inept meet every Thursday at 6:30 pm PST. Coffee and donuts will be provided.

You're probably going to be fast tracked to be president - just remember the little people on your way up.

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Hey! I was asked to sing a solo in my school production of Oliver Twist. I was a milkmaid. They don't ask people with bad voices to be milkmaids. I was just laughing too hard in what I sent you to properly sound like Whitney Houston. I have to go to an appointment now but if you're lucky you may get a better installment later.

Although donuts do sound good.

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I was denied access to joining my high school choir, hence my presidency of the Musically Inept but based on your performance, I know when I'm outclassed and will demote myself to the vice presidency - PB the VP.

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https://voca.ro/114NgqlZUb0K

Also I have no idea why the word "me" trailed off at the end. It's the microphone's fault. I hate you missed out on it because it was amazing.

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Uhm. Wow.

I have changed the locks on the Musically Inept headquarters and retook the presidency.

You clearly belong to the Musically Delusional, who are down the hall.

This is what happens when you deal with a bot that is programmed only to tell the truth.

In keeping with that, a musical interlude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTBdJei9gB8

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Experiment concluded. Singing to each other does not make people nicer.

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On the plus side, you've learned that your parents really loved you as a child as they clearly bribed the school to get you a singing part in Oliver Twist.

And you're now the head of a secret musical organization and if you're having staffing problems, I think I know who your vice president can be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqmy5qrvaVQ

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Haven't checked with Google, but from the top of my head I'd say at some point in time mothers have discovered that their babies would go to sleep faster when they were altering their voice.
Some generations of experiments later they figured out which way of altering the voice had the best effect on babies.
This may have evolved into what we call singing nowadays.

Of course grown up people still remember how their mothers voice calmed them down when they were little children and that's why we all love good singers.

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That certainly makes sense. My first born loved for me to sing to him at night. I'd have to sing through an entire CD of music and sometimes start it over again to get him to sleep. However, my second born was the exact opposite. The first time I tried to sing him to sleep he reached up with his little baby hand and covered my mouth. That was the last of that for him. πŸ˜‚

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If people communicated primarily by singing would there be more peace on Earth?


I don't know, but it would make declarations of war more entertaining. Neville Chamberlain's classic 'This country is now at war with Germany, doo-bi-doo-bi-doo'. And FDR's Billboard #1 classic 'A Date That Will Live in Infamy (La La La La)'

How do you think someone came up with the idea to sing at some point?


Dunno. Must have been a long time. Back in the Paleolithic Era... with Simon Cowell on standby to invent criticism.

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Just imagine if war declarations were sung with some doo-bi-doo-bi-doos and lalalas. Chances are everyone would break out into laughter, say "never mind ya old rapscallion" and go to a pub for some beers.

The end of all war could be within our reach!

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Hmmm, interesting question. It probably started with a bunch of half apes sitting around a campfire making little rhymes which eventually grew into songs.

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I just imagine it must have been a glorious day when they realized they could sing. Like beauty being introduced into boredom.

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This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSpPgXRb5Cg&t=5s

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That sounds like scream singing. πŸ˜‚ Perhaps the precursor to heavy metal. Or in their case, heavy quartz.

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I think that, together with the ability to speak we developed, in an inherent way, the ability to sing. Maybe also as a kind of communication or "just" as a skill or a kind of art (like painting). I would say that ,from the beginning, humans were fascinated to hear a nice voice singing as we still do nowadays.

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I'm sure it provided good entertainment to hear singing back in the early days when there wasn't TV or even the dancing girls of a saloon. It makes me wonder if there are forms of communication with our voices that we still haven't discovered.

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At the current stage, I think that it is unlikely that another forms of communication are possible with our voices.

By the way, I have started to read "Sapiens" by Yuval Noah Harari. Let's see if the author has written something about it.

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A bunch of bored people drinking fermented fruit juice and trying things out. Sometimes it ends well and sometimes it ends badly.

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I'd say in this case it ended well. I can't imagine a world without singing.

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Great question, I’d never thought of this!

Maybe the first songs were chants for some spiritual purpose?

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Could be! It would have been interesting to see the look on the faces of cavemen when their singing voices came out. πŸ˜„

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