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If people, however civilized and however legal or moral "right" they have, refuse to POLITELY EXPLAIN...

posted a month ago by TheMan18 (13016)
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... some stuff, and also to indulge you here or there, well, as someone on the receiving end of such 'conversation', regardless of what I am not allowed to do etc, as a general civilized being, should I just let it go, and is that alright? Should I consider to pester that individual, should I continue to (well, not force of course, but still...) to encourage them to see stuff from my own perspective or even that of the civilized world and be polite as well (not to use f or even s words, not to tell me what to do, not to be judgmental or suspicious of me, not accuse me of being various derivatives of "idiot" if I don't immediately agree despite speaking entirely 'in question', so to speak etc, heck, even forgive me if I incidentally lose my cool and become a bit unwell etc) and possibly a little philosophically oriented here and there?

ALSO... They may or may NOT "choose" to and even have right, BUT...

HOWEVER they DO react and whatever option they DO end up choosing, will they be CORRECT and even more than that, does their reaction indicate some general knowledge or truth existing that may be IT except someone like ME may not KNOW it? And should we just accept it or... I ALSO ASK BECAUSE...

In certain examples, as unfair as it may be in existing fact overall, but we have HAD certain OTHER stances and emotions around them, that often took their toll on someone like me, hence on THEM, of COURSE I, at least at the time, have no FURTHER questions. But for some seemingly EXCEPTIONAL cases, we may WONDER or not be fully convinced. Hence, we ask for a satisfying narrative that brings CLOSURE and satisfying CONCLUSION but without judging me AT ALL as an asker and a distant observer, and please forget any unnecessary SUSPICIONS folks, thank you.

For some stuff, we often get told there is no ultimate right answer. BUT, if someone choose option A or B or X or Y, we are told they are still right even if unpopular. But who is RIGHT in ANY of this? And also, can we have people online avoid being rude even to or around say harshness and monstrosities and just explain nicely, you know, not to speak of this and that in terms of, you understand, and in other cases, also so, and yes because certain things ARE frowned upon but also at least NOT ENCOURAGED, at least as far as us civilized folks ARE concerned.

Cheers.

P.S. I often did know my own rights yes. And that of others. But I also wanted others to make me feel better beyond explaining if I or others are "right" or "wrong" if you get my drift. And I understand general rules and human nature, but, no offense to anyone, how do I know if people are being truthful or in some instances just stubborn or "lazy"? It may not BE it but might at times FEEL like it. Hence, why I decided to pursue explanations. No offense to anyone though.

[–] TheMan18 (13016) a month ago

I may answer this if I may...

Just be myself and not worry, accept it and if necessary or no other choice, move on. No one really "owes" me ANYTHING including explanations of a perfectly clear and ultra polite variety, reality often is what it is, many people are perfectly aware of things but don't feel any need to perfectly explain it all and calm some of us (like me) down in a perfectly friendly way even in say disturbing but occasionally complex areas - but we assume people might think wrongly due to mere "stupidity" but its not always as simple as that, even though sadly yes there are plenty of direct examples of textbook de-facto ignorance in our humanity.

If they refuse or even get mad - let them, don't try and force yourself to convince them of anything. Be yourself and be sincere and honest, that's pretty much all and it.

Was that alright?

[–] TheMan18 (13016) a month ago

ALSO, haha, NOTE, to anyone who thinks I am TOO judgmental, demanding, let alone, stuff like terrible, an asshole or whatever...

I've had VARIOUS moments in life AND online, but also paradoxically moments of unevenness, where I may have for example praised loads of people for good and helpful responses, fell out with those who were actively not on my side (AND NOT always for "right" reasons, I was never ALWAYS bad etc) but also I was either neutral with good people (i.e. haha, I've asked for the information on the message of the song rather than merely its lyrics, although I had nothing AGAINST anyone posting lyrics alone, I was acting like a drooling automaton with a teacher like mentality) or sometimes got, and I REALLY DO APOLOGIZE, carried away in some or other cases with some good and other neutral folks (i.e. NO OFFENSE, I mean, I just wasn't their perfect friend, we were strangers etc, but NOT enemies of any kind EITHER) who occasionally and at the inappropriate moment went into directions I REALLY DID NOT feel like going into at the time, so I asked or, SORRY IF I, ended up DEMANDING, folks, ALRIGHT, LET'S NOT GO THERE etc PLEASE, and if people carried on, I apologize OF COURSE, but I DID lose it a little bit, and when I started to WORRY about how others might see me, well, apologies for becoming IN THE PROCESS a little on the fierce side, but no offense of course to any of you and others EITHER.

Not to mention, I, as I said before, was often affected by FORM as well as content, often for DIFFERENT reasons, and often based on, far from perfectly prepared mindset, how I WAS affected by them. And I sometimes felt compelled to mention some things or "talk about them" to get them off my chest but also to find a satisfying narrative and a calming and effective point, including for stuff like watching films with certain subject matter and even if I STILL agree and RIGHTLY so its "wrong", I still felt compelled in the eyes of such matters discussing OTHER stuff,

[–] TheMan18 (13016) a month ago

including AUDIENCES reactions (i.e. OK you may have such rights, but is it really correct to be angry and dismissive HERE?) and talk about related stuff (heck, that character from one movie was a killer and still a villain, but I don't hear people on every corner complain that they got away with it and movie as a result wasn't dismissed as offensive rubbish etc) and sometimes just engage or indulge in some however medium form of freedom to discuss movies etc, but hopefully not to offend anyone on any real level officially.

Longer time ago I may have even sadly been OFFICIALLY wrong but even THEN I just didn't know better and often messed around or felt compelled to gel what some might say or have said with my own angry mindset that I even felt compelled to turn into real life black comedy - albeit, even though I did end up out of order, but THOSE MOMENTS are FAR behind me and whatnot.

But that's alright as well and perfectly understandable too. We are all fallible and imperfect mortals in this world and on this Earth - I am also one.