Obviously you could debate the definition of "legendary" and "classic", but just go for it anyway.
Glenn Close
Sean Connery
Sally Field
Sean Penn
Jane Fonda
Helen Mirren
Michael Douglas
Aren't Connery's James Bond films considered classics?
shareJANE FONDA IS IN ON GOLDEN POND...SEAN PENN IS IN FAST TIMES...THE SCUMBAG'S WHOLE LIST IS FUCKED UP.
shareFalling Down and Black Rain for Douglas too.
The only one I'm not sure about is Sally Field, but I'm sure she's in something.
I was thinking Bronson Pinchot is a legendary actor, for playing Balki on TV, that has never been in a classic film...but then I remembered Beverly Hills Cop and True Romance, so not even he would make the list.
SALLY FIELD...
SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT.
MRS. DOUBTFIRE.
FORREST GUMP.
NORMA RAE.
I forgot about Sally Field being in Forrest Gump. But none of the others are classics. Those aren't among the greatest films of all time.
share“Greatest Films of all time” is much more specific than a classic film. It’s still subjective, but it’s a much more narrowly defined concept. I think some of the names you mentioned might make more sense now.
People use "classic" too loosely to mean anything that becomes popular. I've heard people say Home Alone 2 is a classic. I'm going by the actual historic definition:
clas·sic
/ˈklasik/
adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
HOME ALONE 2 HAS BEEN JUDGED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO BE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND OUTSTANDING OF IT'S KIND...BEING A 90'S CHRISTMAS FAMILY FLICK.
shareHome Alone 2 is shit.
shareYOUR OPINIONS ARE GROSS AND OFTEN SOMEHOW...WRONG...THIS WE ALREADY KNOW.
share6.8 on IMDb. 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. How is this a top tier Christmas movie?
shareI DID NOT SAY IT WAS...BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO GREW UP IN THE 80S/90S...IT IS OFTEN CONSIDERED TOP TIER...TIMES CHANGE...CLASSICS ARE SUBJECTIVE...YOUR THREAD STINKS OF SHIT.
shareCLASSICS ARE SUBJECTIVE
REPEATING THINGS A LOT IS HOW DUMB PEOPLE LEARN....YOU ARE WELCOME.
shareHow did I not learn? It's literally in my original post.
Me: You can debate the definition of "classic".
You: "The definition of "classic" is debatable.
Me: Yeah, I know. I already said that.
You: "Classic" could mean different things.
Me: Correct. I've said this twice now.
You: Your subjective list is subjective.
Me: I'm aware. I said to just go with it.
You: But you can debate the definition of what a classic is.
Me: FFS.
Home Alone 2 is definitely a classic and fits that definition. This is subjective of course, but I think most people calling it a classic are using the phrase accurately.
A film like Ghostbusters (1984) is largely considered to be a classic, and fits the definition you outlined above, but that's different from calling it one of the greatest films of all time.
I know it seems vague, but there is a shade of difference there, enough so that your list of names in your OP makes sense as one but not the other.
FURTHERMORE...CITIZEN KANE IS COMMONLY CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME AND I FIND IT BORING AS ALL HELL...SO EVEN GREATEST OF ALL TIME IS SUPER SUBJECTIVE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW MANNEQUIN IT THE GOAT.
CITIZEN KANE IS COMMONLY CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME AND I FIND IT BORING AS ALL HELL
CORRECT...BUT GREATEST OF ALL TIME AND CLASSIC ARE BOTH SUBJECTIVE...AND YOUR THREAD IS OBJECTIVELY STUPID.
shareThere is going to be overlap between "Classic" and "GOAT" films, and any film that is a GOAT is pretty much guaranteed to also be a classic.
In nerd talk: The key distinction lies in the generally understood parameters for how they are conceptualized. "Classic" is a broader term that encompasses a wide range of beloved films, including those that may not be technically or artistically superior but have a lasting impact or widespread appeal. "Greatest," on the other hand, implies a higher standard of quality and impact, often judged by professionals in the field and acknowledged by peer-group associations like the Academy, SAG, the DGA, Critics associations, etc.
Then I could argue that I could have added "lasting impact or widespread appeal" to my topic if that was the context. Classic should just mean classic in this case even though that is debatable to begin with. For example: I think Fargo is a classic and should be considered one, but not everyone would agree.
shareEVERYONE AGREES...FARGO IS A CLASSIC...HOW ARE YOU CONSISTANTLY THIS DUMB?🤔
shareI think you if you had said "A Legendary actor that hasn't been in a film considered to be one of the greatest films of all time" would have gotten much different responses, probably the ones you were looking for.
shareBut I did state that "classic" can be debated in my original post.
shareORIGINAL POST WAS STUPID...HAS THIS NOT ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED?🤔
shareNo one's disagreeing that a classic can be debated, but the post was still vague. I mean look at this entire thread lol.
The only way to find out for sure is to make a new thread titled "A Legendary actor that hasn't been in a film considered to be one of the greatest films of all time" instead of classic, and keep everything else the same.
I went by my definition of what a classic is and it's fine if you think they are classics or not. The point of the post was for you guys to provide your own.
shareCitizen Kane bored me too.
shareI WAS BORN IN THE 80S...MOST OF THE "CLASSICS" SEEM BORING TO ME.
shareI don't get the appeal of it either.
I have the special edition Blu-ray that has a behind-the-scenes documentary about the making of Citizen Kane, and it's actually better than film itself.
The camera techniques, angles and lighting are all highly esteemed and I agree with all of that, it was a beautiful looking movie. Otherwise it was slow and the reveal was uninteresting.
share"Outstanding of its kind".
Like as a film. I think it's a stretch to refer to "of its kind" as a Christmas film. Would a rapping camel movie be considered a classic because it's the only movie to exist with that therefore making it the default best of its kind?
CHRISTMAS MOVIES IS THE KIND...DIPSHIT.🙂
shareNOBODY SAID THEY WERE...INCLUDING YOUR ORIGINAL OP...DUMBASS.
shareclas·sic
/ˈklasik/
adjective
1.
judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
THAT DEFINITION SUPPORTS ME...NOT YOU.
shareI love how you and I are making the same argument but in two very different tones 😂
Threads like this are why I love this website lol
The tone is that you're smart and Kowalski isn't.
shareVINCE IS WELL SPOKEN AND I AM LOUD AND WILD...DEAL WITH IT,MR.PUBICHAIRFACE.
shareI'm not sure about me LOL but Kowalski is actually really smart underneath all his bluster. I think he's a big softy too lol.
Comparing you to no one, you're smart. Comparing you to Kowalski makes you a rocket scientist.
shareMORE ANTI-GAY STUFF...CHILL OUT WEIRDO.
shareThere wasn't any anti-gay stuff.
shareI HAVE SEEN A ROCKET...I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SHAPED LIKE...EVERYONE DOES...YOU CAN'T FOOL ME...MISTER HATER!
shareShe was in Forrest Gump, but she didn't star.
shareI would say so. Connery also starred in "The Hunt for Red October," a classic in my book.
sharevery subjective.
shareEverything is subjective. Having lists of the top 5 best actors is subjective.
shareAGREED...WHICH IS WHY YOUR THREAD IS STUPID.🙂
shareAren't you the one asking people to put the top 3 movies/tv shows of actors and actresses constantly?
MY THREADS ARE POSITIVE...YOURS IS DUMB.🤣
shareToday must be International Tell a Lie Die.
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/658fe80545273a626aeb681c/KOWALSKItm-IS-AMAZING
I ROCK THIS SITE...I AM AMAZING...TRUTH!
shareYou took your lumps on this one buddy, I sure won't pile on:)
shareIn my defence, I wrote a disclaimer in the beginning.
shareQuite true.
shareIN YOUR DEFENSE...IT'S REMARKABLE YOU TYPE AS WELL AS YOU DO FROM WITHIN YOUR CAGE.
shareSays the guy who said Home Alone 2 is a classic.
shareA CLASSIC 90S CHRISTAS MOVIE...OR A CLASSIC FAMILY CHRISTMAS MOVIE.
THE WORD CLASSIC CAN BE APPLIED IN MANY WAYS...EXCEPT YOURS...WHICH IS WRONG...AND DUMB.🤣
THE WORD CLASSIC CAN BE APPLIED IN MANY WAYS
THIS IS WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE TOPLESS...
https://www.lelemoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Burgerprint-Dick_ed-Ugly-Christmas-Sweater-4.jpg
This is what you look like no matter what you're wearing:
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I AM A REAL PERSON...
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/659477f3788f7a7612b2d928/FOUND-AN-OLD-PICTURE-OF-ALI-and-I
NOT AN ANONYMOUS CAGED BEASTY LIKE YOURSELF.
This doesn't prove that you're not wearing a mask in that pic.
shareI WEAR THAT MASK IN EVERY PICTURE I HAVE EVER TAKEN.
shareYou should wear another one.
shareLOOK AT THAT,BUDDY...YOU GOT A POST WITH OVER 100 REPLIES...BIG TIME.
YOU'RE WELCOME.🙂
Glenn Close - Fatal Attraction
Sean Connery - the Untouchables, Bond films
Sally Field - Smoky and the Bandit
Sean Penn - Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Jane Fonda - The China Syndrome
Helen Mirren - Excalibur
Michael Douglas - Wall Street
These were off the top of my head, except for Jane Fonda. I've never seen on Golden Pond. I'm not sure China Syndrome is classic movie making, but it had a pretty big impact at the time.
Smoky and the Bandit and Fast Times might not be what most people think of as examples of great filmmaking, but they were pretty influential and were sort of definitive movies of their time.
Fair criticism. Not like Kowalski.
Are there any legends you would say haven't been in any classics?
CRITICISM NONETHELESS...FOR YOUR DUMB AS ROCKS THREAD THAT IS NOW COVERED IN KOWALSQUIRT!
shareNow Bambi is a classic. ”Bambi considered a classic in the Disney canon for its lush hand-drawn animation and its sensitive affective narrative.”
Why am I wasting my time on this silly OP? Anyhow, it’s all relative to the viewer. Frankly I think “Porky’s” is a classic! It’s another ‘80’s film. 🤷🏼♀️
BTW, distant Pollack cousin, have you prepared my pierogis yet, or my golumpki? I’ve been under the weather.
I was maybe reaching a little with Jane Fonda and Helen Mirren. China Syndrome was one of those movies that was kind of a cultural event at the time that got people talking. I'm not sure it holds up that well, though.
Excalibur is kind of the opposite sort of situation. It seems like it's more highly regarded now. Fantasy movies tended to be lower budget, badly written, b movies back when I was growing up in the 80s. Excalibur had that epic quality you didn't see much in fantasy movies until the LOTR movies in the early 2000s. Maybe not quite a classic, though. I'm not sure about that one.
I kind of expected people to say "so and so is a classic". It's kind of hard to say definitively unless it's something like The Godfather.
shareI wouldn’t put tank rider Jane & Helen Mirren in the same sentence. What an insult!
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