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Can One Be For Feminism/Equality And Also Male Empowerment?

posted 2 years ago by HarveyManFredSin (4877)
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I personally think so.

I don't mean 'empowerment' as in men gaining more social power. As it stands, men have the most social/structural power, and, as a self-identifying feminist, I think that needs to change, so that women and men become more EQUAL.

But I mean 'empowerment' in terms of greater self-pride, and a refusal to be controlled by one's hormones, and, thus, the foolish and embarrassing need to *simp* for (attractive) women, which ISN'T the same as striving for greater social equality for ALL women.

Equality for women as an entire SEX, is NOT the same as simping for individual women who one happens to have the hots for.

I support male-female EQUALITY. *NOT* simping, or supremacy, for individual (hot) women.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Yes. Men need to improve for true feminism to flourish. It makes sense that men need to do better and that women also need to do better. It shouldn't be a case of men getting their shit together at the detriment to women. Both should be able to improve independently from one another for the betterment of both.

Men have their own issues in society. Some areas it's better to be a woman. When true equality is reached men and women will be treated equally and fairly across the board.

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[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I'm very much in agreement here.

I regard myself as a feminist, and, of course, we live in a patriarchy in which men mostly set the rules and have the most power, BUT, as you say, depending on the individual man and individual woman, there may be certain circumstances and situations, where it's in fact better to be a woman. Women have historically been marginalised and shut out of top careers and positions, but there is also a lot of pressure on individual men to reach certain standards, particularly in the workplace. Also, when we keep hearing/reading that 'men have had their day' that can be very dispiriting, whereas, as tough as things may be for women, there must also be a sense of excitement that things can only improve for women (give or take the odd step backwards, like the repeal of Roe v Wade, and the election of Trump). For the most part, society is progressing and women are achieving more milestones. That's great and exciting, but it also means that some men can feel that they have nothing to add (this isn't envy or resentment towards women, but simply anxiety, and a sense of feeling lost and uncertain).

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I dont need to be "empowered" because I'm not weak and my self image isn't "I am weak" with life-filling amounts of copium and mental gymnastics to cover up that fact.

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[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Good for you, but too many men are frankly behaving and looking like a bunch of saps.

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[–] TheMan18 (13178) 2 years ago

You really are quite a strong deep thinker in these areas Harvey? Right?

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[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I don't know. Am I?

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[–] TheMan18 (13178) 2 years ago

I myself maybe not only but MOSTLY think in simple terms. So "feminism" and "male empowerment" I won't be able to professionally or even well in an amateurishly but positively opinionated way be able to comment. Oh wait, and especially modern day Americans and Europeans - we all know our life and world is way more complex than that, correct, and even what many MOVIES tend to show us or say even GREAT ones (or critically acclaimed ones), right?

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (78491) 2 years ago

I’m all in on that so long as we can all finally sign off on my years-long campaign to rename Tuesday ‘Titties And Tacos Day.’

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[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

What does that make Wednesday? 'Wieners and Wieners Day'?

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (78491) 2 years ago

Eh, why not?

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[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Cool. So we're in agreement then!

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (78491) 2 years ago

You got yourself a deal Mister!

I may stay home on Wednesdays from now on but we’re good👍

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