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Get Rid of Real Actors. Time to Replace Them *Entirely* With AI Creations.


If real-life actors can't keep their shit together (e.g. Jonathan Majors, Kevin Spacey, Johnny Depp and/or Amber Heard, Ezra Miller etc etc etc...ad infinitum...etc), maybe it's time to do the SENSIBLE and REASONABLE thing and REPLACE them ENTIRELY.

At least that way no REAL person will ever again be 'exploited' (i.e. 'forced' to do a nude scene, or sleep with a creep like Weinstein etc etc etc...ad infinitum...etc), which is surely a good thing that TRUE PROGRESSIVES, like myself, can champion. πŸ™‚πŸ‘πŸΌ

And before any 'goody-goody' pipes up with a banal "Why can't actors/producers/directors just behave themselves [instead of Hollywood having to replace them]?", well 'DUH!" Why can't they...? But the FUCKING POINT is that they DON'T!

It's like saying "why is there war?" or "why do people commit crimes?" They just do, and NOTHING you say will stop that, BUT we can mitigate/avoid the possibility of such harm through OTHER *sensible* measures.

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Last year I took my wife and daughter to see ABBA Voyage, which is a CGI concert. I’ve been to over a thousand gigs, but this blew me away!

This is definitely the future of music; 3 gigs a day, 365 days a year - no bum notes, no crappy vocals, no mood swings or exhaustion - perfect every time.

I’m surprised more bands aren’t doing this.

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Interesting. πŸ™‚

But say what you will about ABBA, and I'm not really their biggest fan (although I believe my mother visited one of those concerts recently, and enjoyed herself), they all seemed to have behaved themselves (I mean, I guess there was behind-the-scenes BS with respect to divorces/fall-outs between members, but no dirt or anything that would have them remotely cancelled). I appreciate that doesn't really pertain to your point, since the CGI concert was more of necessity in terms of how physically able the members were/are to perform, but the nice thing about ABBA is that they're not the type of people who'd need to be 'replaced' for being assholes.

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I’m an old rocker at heart, but I just love music, full stop.

For the first 3 songs the whole audience just gaped in shock, not quite believing what they were seeing (the CGI was that good).

After that, the party started; I’d highly recommend it.

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Don't encourage this behaviour.

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Yes, don't encourage COMMON-SENSE and SANITY... πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ™„

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Would you rather meet a musician you love in person or on a video call? I get that the show Andy saw wanted a CGI experienc for people, but it only works limited. It's no different than watching a concert film in theatre as opposed to watching them live.

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Live experiences, and flesh-and-bone actors/performers, are always theoretically superior to fakery. There's a depth, nuance, authenticity and emotional connection that can't be replicated using algorithms, but until people GET THEIR FUCKING SHIT together and STOP ACTING LIKE ASSHOLES, it's arguably an option, isn't it? The ball is in THEIR court? I have MY shit together (in terms of not being an ABUSIVE ASSHOLE), but, alas, I am a talentless mediocrity. As the frankly BRILLIANT film, Amadeus (which, perhaps, rather aptly, features the brilliant and Oscar-winning, but *cancelled* actor, F. Murray Abraham) notes, talent and twattery often goes hand-in-hand.

*FEMINIST* Camille Paglia said something along these lines: "There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper." Now, I personally don't agree with the sex/gender element of what she's saying (ironically, I appear to be MORE OF A FEMINIST than her. LOL. πŸ˜‚), but I also think she does hit on something when she implies that genius and evil are often connected (look at the likes of Picasso and Wagner for example; both major assholes, and both brilliant, innovative and enduring artists). Where I disagree with Paglia is the notion that women can't be genuises, or, indeed assholes. But I'm no a gender/sex essentialist like that DICKHEAD, Jordan Petersen, and so I don't tend to see things in 'men versus women' terms, just 'a-holes versus decent people' terms.

To quote Harry Lime from The Third Man: "You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock." He wasn't wrong...

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The problem is that people will milk this dry. A band will release an album and go on a virtual tour while making money on each show. There will be no interaction with the audience. This really only works as an appreciation gig: "Led Zeppelin: An Appreciation of Years of Music" or "A Jimi Hendrix Experience Experience". No one will want to do live gigs anymore. It's similar to AI writing screenplays. No one will want the real thing anymore.

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Like I say, on a personal, emotional and instinctive level, you don't have to convince me. REAL people are far more compelling to watch than holograms, and the beauty of a live performance is that each performance is unique, and there will be nuances and instances of serendipity, maybe even happy mistakes, where moments of magic occur, that can't be replicated by a computer program where all 'flaws' are ironed out.

BUT once again, I'm talking about the benefits of AI when it comes to combating the bad behaviour of real-life actors. That should be the threat "Until your community [the acting community] bucks up your ideas, and stops behaving like jackasses, be prepared to have fullscale replacement by AI hanging over your heads!"

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I meant more for bands and artists that aren’t around anymore. Imagine being able to see The Beatles or Elvis or Led Zeppelin - the list is endless.

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I know what you meant. I just mean don't give these musicians any ideas because they'll start doing it all the time. KISS are a bunch of sellouts and they would totally do that.

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I can absolutely see KISS doing this.

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And I can absolutely see myself not going. #KISSisPISS

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That's a terrible idea. There are lots of actors who do "behave themselves" and it doesn't make sense to punish all of them based on the actions of a few. I prefer real people acting and not cgi or ai.

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In theory, I agree with you. There are nuances that only a living, breathing human being can ever project, but conversely, some of the most inimitable and distinctive REAL actors have turned out to be complete shits in real life (e.g. Bill Murray; he's the example of someone whose schtick is very distinctive and can't be decently replicated by anyone else I can think of, but by all accounts he's a complete asshole). It's like the expression goes, if you want the rainbow, you have to put up with the rain. Well, maybe some people can't bear the rain, and regard it as too high a cost to pay. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

As an aside, the few 'nice' and 'morally decent' actors, are often the blandest and most boring. In which case, what difference does it make to audiences, if we replace ALL actors with AI? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ If we're already losing BRILLIANT actors like Murray, Dustin Hoffman and F. Murray Abraham (etc), for various other reasons, what difference does it make if we replace them all? Is it just so a few super-bland goody-goody actors who bring NOTHING TO THE TABLE, can keep their precious jobs? Bah... πŸ₯±

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Terminator 25 coming to a theatre near you

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Or Season FOUR of Star Trek, with the OG crew...

I have mixed feelings about this tech, normally I want to reflexively side with the side that lets poor people rise up,

BUT, the possibility of keeping or reviving great characters that we lost, just because of stupid human mortality...


I see that bad, and the good.

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PEOPLE ACT...CGI DOES NOT...THE END.

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PEOPLE ABUSE...CGI DOES NOT...THE END.

You want to STOP abuse, you have to take appropriate measures. Yes, we'd lose something in the process, but we'd also be getting rid of ABUSE and EXPLOITATION, 'liberal' (πŸ™„).

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CGI sucks and so will AI.

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Yeah, true, but do you know what else sucks? Asshole actors who abuse our trust and exploit their own privilege.

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Makes me wonder when we stop being the audience and start being part of the entertainment.

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I love the part of S1m0ne where Al Pacino purposefully turns his creation into an asshole, so that the public will finally get sick of her. πŸ˜‚ To my recollection, it doesn't work, and they still clamour for more of Simone, which just goes to show that the public is more resilient than the puppet-masters would like them to be, and you can't force them to do what you want them to.

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It would allow ugly fuckers with nice voices to become voice actors.

"Hey Mum, guess what? I'm finally in the movies!"

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Doesn't that already happen, and I'm sure the AI will eventually be able to cover all soundwork, including voicework, without any ugly fucker having to come into a recording studio.

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I'm not very techie but I am guessing they need at least a real voice to base the creation off? I've messed around with AI images and I can't help but feel they are basing the finished product off real people. Like random Facebook photos etc.

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