Do you believe in charging children as adults for murder?

No, I believe they should get a discount.

good question I sometimes feel like the parents or who ever raised these children should be charged with something because you are not born a hater

So for every bad choice you make before 25, you get a pass?

By that age most people have finished regular school, some have finished secondary school, most have had multiple jobs and most have started families.

If you haven't got your shit together by then, it's on you.

What do you think should happen? I'll agree that a static sentence probably doesn't make much sense for criminals so young but still... they planned to kill a person (one of which was a relative, no less) for "fun" and cash. This isn't something that should be overlooked. There needs to be a sharp answer to that kind of action.

I think anytime you discuss crime and punishment scenarios you have to find where people are coming from too. I'm not strictly a believer in punishment as a rehabilitation tool. I think there are also debts to society that needs to be paid as in to stand as an example for others who'd even begin to entertain such a way of thinking. This is a very vicious crime and even given their age they really need to be leaned on in a harsh way.

13 does seem young for this type of sentence, but as another poster pointed out, by 25, you really should be fully in control of your actions, especially when it comes to recognising the monstrousness of cold-blooded murder.

As estcst said, their sentences shouldn't be mandatory. There should be some scope for them receiving parole way before they're in their late forties/fifties.

That said, this was a particularly abhorrent crime, and if they're old enough to plan the cold-blooded murder of their grandmother, they're arguably old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, and thus serve a substantial sentence. I hope their conditions within prison are not harsh (although I suppose that applies to all prisoners, but particularly in view of their age/being youth offenders), but although I work with youth offenders, and generally believe in restorative justice and rehabilitation, as I say, *this* crime is particularly abhorrent and cold-blooded, and quite honestly, they sound like psychopaths, and psychopathy is not a trait that disappears; it can only be reduced/minimised.

Most 13-year-olds are not axe murderers. One doesn't have to be as mature as a 25-year-old to know it's wrong. In fact, maturity has nothing to do with the total lack of compassion evident in this crime.

There boys are useless to society, in fact, they present an ever present danger because they lack a moral compass which has nothing to do with age or maturity.

37 years is not long enough. I'd say let them be raped in prison and then executed.

Only in very rare situations, when the crime is a cold blooded thrill killing.

Someone who kills with forethought, simply for fun cannot be rehabilitated. There is no cure for pure psychopaths.

You should read up on the brain maturity. The science is pretty slim on that, yet people seemed to just grab on to it. People's brains don't mature at the same rate, and there is no magic age 25 for use of the prefrontal cortex.