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Who else stopped watching Star Trek after Woke Trek


The distinguishing element of Star Trek was not the Enterprise, the Klingons, or explorations of new worlds, but that of into ethical matters, discussing them with a depth that most other sci-fi runs only scraped the surface of. Terrorism, genocide and conflict isn't just a mindless space war, but a philosophical arena as well. (It may have been cheesy and virtually always on the side of the humans but what do you expect.)

Its later runs are so politically appeasing and toothless, and without the gonads to challenge conventional thinking is there any point to it? That's what I ask myself when they start throwing feminism or whatever around.

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The only spin-off that regularly annoyed me was Star Trek: Discovery.

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did you stop after TOS cast blacks, asians and women?

or did you wait for their black/white racial relations episode?

personally i made until TNG Riker's gay lover episode before I bailed.

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Where was Riker's gay lover? Are you talking about that TNG episode where you had that non-gendered thing?
It didn't bother me back in the day. All of the progressive shit used to be interesting because it was rare in society and wasn't being shoved in your face. It was refreshing to see the first black kiss in TOS, or tackle other social conventions that were ahead of their time. These days, wokeism has taken over the culture, and it's overzealous proponents have made it repulsive. Now just seeing a diverse cast is fucking annoying, even though we already had diversity in the 60's. Wokies have ruined progressive ideology. They poison everything.


Wokeness is cancer.

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"Wokeness is cancer."

Your topic promoting Socialism sounded very woke.

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Well I suppose it depends on your definition of 'woke'. If you use the correct contemporary definition, which is a pejorative that primarily refers to progressive cultural issues, like intersectional feminism, trans acceptance, racial justice, diversity and inclusion, LGBTQ representation and advocacy ‒ then no. Nothing in my American Socialism article was woke, since it primarily focuses on economic justice. But if you are using the right-wing definition of the word, where it just means anything that conservatives don't like, then sure, socialism is definitely something they don't like, so in that sense it's woke as fuck. The funny thing is that many of them are fans of socialism as long as you don't use the word "socialist". They don't have any clue what actual socialism is about. When I describe it to them, they will often agree with most, if not all, of it. But once I tell them that it's socialism, they will deny it and start saying something painfully stupid about Stalin and genocide or a similar brand of ignorant retardation.

Returning back to 'woke' (the correct definition) ‒ despite how much I rail against woke Social Justice Warriors, I actually do agree with them on some social issues ‒ issues that are not only confined to economics. For example, I am a huge opponent of mass incarceration. I believe it is a racist system whose purpose is to put black people back into bondage. It's neo-slavery. It is obvious to me that it is just the continuation of slavery under a different name, using various laws to justify it, but being framed using language that obfuscates that fact. Slavery in any form is evil, and in my opinion, slavers/owners have forfeited their right to life the moment they kidnapped someone, sold them, and forced them into bondage. Anyone who participates in the slave trade must receive the death penalty, no exceptions. Likewise, mass incarceration is also evil, for the same reason.
Legalizing drugs is the first step to end mass incarceration.

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Woke means to be aware of racism and support justice. It sounds odd you would be against it since your previous comment supported equal opportunity and helping disenfranchised people.

Anyway, Star Trek was always woke. It's vision of the future was steeped in wokeness. Full equality and everyone gets along. No poverty, war, bigotry, nor injustice on Earth.

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The term "woke" used to mean being aware of racism and other forms of oppression, and in that sense, I consider myself woke as well. However, the modern understanding of "woke" centers around Social Justice Warriors (SJWs). SJWs differ from social justice advocates. Social justice advocates are woke in the original sense of the word — aware of oppression and class struggle. SJWs are a pathetic facsimile. They are obsessed with identities of marginalized people, and are overzealous in their pursuit of social justice to the point of being absurd. SJWs are nothing but narcissistic, authoritarian, sanctimonious, hyper-moralizing, virtue-signaling, tribalistic, cultish zealots. They are not class-conscious and a detriment to the social justice movement, in particular when it comes to economic justice. Social justice advocates are willing to do what it takes to achieve economic justice. They are willing to stand in solidarity with racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes ― anyone, who is a member of the working class. SJWs on the other hand are too stupid and insular to ever accomplish anything that they purport to care about.

When it comes to economic justice, I am militant. I will obliterate anyone who stands in my way. Anyone who is an obstacle to the flourishing of the working class — not blacks, trannys, or Alphabet people — but the whole working class, the only identity that matters. So as far as I'm concerned all woke SJWs can burn in hell.

As for Star Trek, once again, I would consider them woke in the original sense of the word: people and a society that have achieved economic justice and as a result transcended their petty prejudices and identities.

John McWhorter on 'Wokeness'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag4qjcMr2e0

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"The term "woke" used to mean being aware of racism and other forms of oppression"

Still does!

I won't allow racists to alter the term. Screw them!

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No. Language is not static, it evolves over time. Words develop new meanings.
Take for example the word "gay". Originally (before the 50's) it meant happy.
Here is 'Happy Days Are Here Again' with the word in it's original meaning:
https://youtu.be/hygq-p9namo?t=44
You can here the word at 1:04
https://youtu.be/hygq-p9namo?t=63
Lyrics:

...So long sad times
Go long bad times
We are rid of you at last
Howdy gay times
Cloudy gray times
You are now a thing of the past

Then after the 60's, the word 'gay' meant homosexual. But in the 90's the word became a pejorative meaning something sucks. Like "That movie was gay", meaning it was a bad movie.
And now after 2010's, the word "gay" is no longer used as a pejorative and again just means homosexual.
The same thing happened to the word "queer". It used to be a pejorative. When you called someone a queer, you were saying they were a pussy and were weird. That is still how I use the word today (but that's just me. I'm an asshole). But the contemporary use of "queer" is no longer a pejorative, at least not in liberal circles, and it just means part of the LGBTQ community.

I will continue to use "woke" as a pejorative (in it's contemporary form) because it is how I refer to SJWs obsessed with identity politics. I need a word that describes my enemy. Once I can name them, I can fight them. And I will fight them until they are eradicated from our culture.
——————————Terminating Wokies is more than a job — it's a passion.—————————

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Riker is gay? 👹

Star Trek has always been woke. It had an interracial globalist cast in the 1960's.

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That was actually my point, lol

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he fell in love with a non-gendered person in one episode

i believe the character was executed or imprisoned for it at the end of that episode

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I guess that would make Riker pansexual.

Okay, I didn't see this one. How does a non-gendered person have sex?

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very carefully, lol

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The Outcast (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
In this episode, Riker falls in love with Soren, a member of an androgynous race which finds gender specificity unacceptable.
Season 5; Episode 17
March 16, 1992;

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Dude, she's ugly and looks like a bulldyke lesbian. 🤣

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2pzDCM7odKw/maxresdefault.jpg

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lol

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I looked up how the J'naii reproduce:

In general, the J'naii enjoy dancing (the taller partner leads) and socializing. Sleeping together for warmth without sex is common. Reproduction is accomplished with the fetus incubated in fibrous husks which both parents inseminate -- the last step of a long, pleasurable mating ritual.

https://www.startrek.com/database_article/jnaii-alien


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wow

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I don't know if Riker is gay but he does suck.

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YOUR POST STINKS OF LAME DUFUS.🙂

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I couldn't get into Enterprise (2001-2005) and never bothered with anything subsequent.

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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is really good.

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I couldn’t get into Discovery, and as much as I wanted to like Picard, it’s just not Star Trek to me. I stopped watching after season 1.

It helped that The Orville feels more like classic Star Trek than the new series

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A FRIEND OF MINE SAYS SEASON 3 OF PICARD IS ALMOST A FULL RESET ON THE SHOW AND THEY GET THE CHARACTERS AND FEEL OF THE SHOW RIGHT.

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it's pretty boring to be honest, they keep putting them in "oh no! will they all die?" situations ( which of course they won't and they don't ) and so there is zero tension

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I didn't know you had any friends

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I'm his friend.

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You guys are friends now? See anything is possible...

Signed, million man.

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Yes. It turns out that you were correct.
Also, I tend to surprise people, including myself.

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Kowalski is a cool dude once you get used to his quirk.

Signed, million man.

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HE LOVES TO WARCRY AGAINST WOKE...I THINK WOKE IS AN IMAGINARY JOKE...WE SEEM TO GET ALONG JUST FINE ON MOST OTHER TOPICS THOUGH.

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I've never met anyone that was exactly like me and have learned not to talk about things with certain people.

Signed, million man.

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THAT IS WHY I NEVER SPEAK TO SHOGUN ABOUT TO AMOUNT OF TECATE HE GUZZLES OR TO HOWNOS ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE IS CANADIAN AND THUS INFERIOR.🙂

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I don't talk politics with my dad I just grit my teeth when he brings it up.

Signed, million man.

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I love arguing, so me and my mom joust a lot. She is a hardcore Trump supporter and a fascist. I'm a socialist. I enjoy dismantling her retarded fascist ideology.

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Lol. Yeah I just don't need that. I get enough jousting at work.

Signed, million man.

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Canadians are indeed inferior. Rat people, eh?

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Floppy heads.

Signed, million man.

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I never heard of that term before. I just looked it up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!
I'm going to steal this and incorporate it into my verbal assault repertoire.

Something like:
You insipid cretinous floppy-headed dunce...
That works, don't you think?

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It's the Canadians in South Park.


Signed, million man.

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I don't watch that much South Park, so I'm not familiar, but if you google the term "floppy head", you get 'dropped head syndrome' which makes me think of someone being dropped on their head.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcUbNoRqQTo

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Canadians truly are a disgrace to the human race. eh?

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HOCKEY...BOBBLE TOP HEADS...FRENCH...🤢

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EXACTLY...THAT IS WHAT I PICTURE WHEN THINKING OF OR SPEAKING TO A CANADIAN.

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Yes, that was my experience.

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I am the friend that Kowalski is talking about.
Do yourself a favor and watch season 3 of Picard now. You don't need to watch season 2. There is almost nothing that carries over from the previous seasons. Season 3 is completely different. It is the old crew — literally everyone (except for that dork Wesley). They have a new character that kind of replaces Wesley named Jack. Jack is fucking awesome and a bad-ass; He's superior to Wesley in every way.
There are a lot of call backs and references to TNG. As the season progresses it becomes more and more like TNG. And in episode 8 or 9 it's nearly identical to TNG, or at the very least the TNG movies. It is very moving, very emotional, and sentimental. It is by far the best season of Picard and better than anything since the TNG movies. And by movies, I'm only talking about Generations and First Contact. Season 3 is as good as those. In my opinion maybe better in some ways. The only criticism I have is that the writing and or directing sucks. The cast has shitty dialogue that sometimes makes them sound like retards who can barley act. We know that this can't be the actors because we've seen what Patrick Stewart is capable of. So if he sounds like a retard then it must be the writing or directing. Other than that, the Picard S03 is fucking awesome.
I cried tears of joy during episode 3x09.

If you love Star Trek TNG, then drop what you're doing right now and go watch it. Binge it. Binge the fuck out of it.
Here is a little something to get you in the mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3QT57d26c

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Someone should edit on old TOS episode so that it plays like a modern version of Trek. That would clearly illustrate how bad they are at making a decent show lately. It is like modern TV writers can hide their lack of writing skills behind woke topics. Very similar to the way Christian media works. Mention Jesus dying for your sins and it is a hit even if the acting/writing/directing are terrible.

"Progressive" is fine. There are many aspects of life and society that could use a tune-up or at least illumination. Gone is the subtle delivery of such. Now, when you go through the TV buffet, instead a little placard suggesting something progressive on the side of your tray, you entree, soup, and jello are all little placards instead. And the rice pilaf that is left is undercooked.

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i dont know if youve seen Strange New Worlds yet, but it is pretty standard "old school trek" ie one story per episode, a moral to be learned, etc

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The moment I heard they'd have an openly gay couple on Shitscovery, I knew I was not going to watch it. Turns out (based on what people reported upon watching) it was 10x worse than that, basically a woke rainbow support group in space, with writers who apparently never got past grade school in their skills.

After seeing season one of Picard, I swore never to watch any more of it. I was angry and horrified and how much they degraded him and disrespected the lore of Star Trek on that show, as well as having NO understanding of the culture of the Federation or the tech used in the franchise. No amount of "Season 3 was great" is going to convince me to come back. I am DONE with Alex Kurtzman's shitty fanfics.

I refuse to even watch "Strange New Worlds," particularly after hearing about the canon-breaking with Spock and T'pring. Last thing I need is to see the "cliff-hair" version of Captain Pike acting like a useless cuck while his mostly female crew does all the work and they're on a ship that [again] looks like a more advanced version of the Enterprise, before Kirk even showed up. If it's got Kurtzman's name on it and is shot in his Secret Hideout Studios, I'm not watching.

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THIS...LADY...IS IN NEED OF SOME THERAPY.🙄

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Most people on MC do but yes this one is the prime example.

Signed, million man.

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If you have seen my writing on this website, you know how much I despise Wokies. I slay woke retards on the internet for sport.
My motto is: Terminating woke retards is not just a job, it's a passion.. I often encourage the purging of all woke degenerates from society. So given this, if I tell you that Picard season 3 is awesome, you should really consider checking it out.

See my post above about Picard:
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/643ed4c3ea973f698b6c4c33/Who-else-stopped-watching-Star-Trek-after-Woke-Trek?reply=643eff54ea973f698b6c4dd5

And check out this thread where I talk about it with Kowalski:
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/642ee1874cbeea03bce4037c/I-AM-DOING-SOMETHING-I-HAVE-NOT-DONE-SINCE-THE-MID-90S?reply=642f88c8a461ca314e4e8a3f

And this one:
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/642ee1874cbeea03bce4037c/I-AM-DOING-SOMETHING-I-HAVE-NOT-DONE-SINCE-THE-MID-90S?reply=64303af8a461ca314e4e8f20

This is my latest post after watching 3x09
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/642ee1874cbeea03bce4037c/I-AM-DOING-SOMETHING-I-HAVE-NOT-DONE-SINCE-THE-MID-90S?reply=6438abfb955b1c5e1cd3be8e

And finally, check out these end credits to get you in the mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3QT57d26c

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The Mirror Universe V'Ger storyline on Star Trek Online is better.

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I never started.

Signed, million man.

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