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Ukraine President is addressing US Congress


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/21/world/volodymyr-zelensky-russia-ukraine-news

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This is going to get deleted by the mods.

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I think not. Its history, not politics.

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The mods are hardcore with this kind of thing.

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He's done speaking. I just wanted people to know it was happening.

There is a political dimension to it, but the historical context is much larger.

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It's fine by me, I'm just letting you know.

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It doesn't matter. If the mods choose to delete it, they delete it.

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Didn't you just learn that the hard way?😆 And you're also acknowledging that they're accurate when they delete someone.

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Maybe best not to bump this misplaced thread.

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I couldn't help but gloat a bit. Finally, some justice with that punk, just days before Christmas.

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How am I acknowledging that they're accurate? I stated that they're hardcore with the rule. There's no leeway with it.

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Maybe best not to bump this misplaced thread (I’ve said the same to db20db).

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Had to put db in his place.

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Damn are you ever living in a face-saving, fantasy world, when you got shut down, had your ass handed to you, just last night. Are you actually going to try to claim that all of those posts of yours were self deleted? 🤔 You've always been too much of an attention whore to ever do something like that.

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My ass wasn't handed to me. I spoke to them in a DM. They were like you and and made apologies for the person I was speaking about.

My posts were deleted by the mods because the person who I was speaking about apparently has immunity from being banned or having their posts deleted. A user already had a one week ban for calling them out.

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Yadda, yadda, the usual double speak, trying to confuse the issue.

The person you were speaking about was being bullied, harassed and in this particular situation, you were instigating, leading the charge, which is your cowardly style. A mod recently announced, "Leave him alone." In your typical, arrogant, attention whore style, you just had to persist. And that's why you finally got deleted, which you deserved.

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If you consider me bumping his posts as harassment, what exactly do you call your posts when you constantly tell people to "fuck off" when they weren't even talking to or about you? Is that not instigation? Also, the mod never told me to leave him alone. They said that to someone else.

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Another one of your, twisted, distorted, false allegations. If I tell someone to "fuck off", it's because they're offensive or pestering me, definitely not in the scenario you tried to create.

"...bumping his posts..."

That activity even pissed off hownos, who you were trying to suck up to with your "100,000 posts thread.

When the mod said, "Leave him alone." it was directed at the sickening clique in general, of which you're a ringleader.

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So the countless times when TheMan18 posts 7 topics in 10 minutes knocking many other posts off the main page, you're okay with it. But when I bump a few of his posts once, suddenly you're upset about it?
You have strange standards.

I also think it's hypocritical for you to say I was harassing him when you are the one who took joy in Otter saying I deserved a punch from a group here. People say you're mean and you bitch about it for a year, so I could only imagine your reaction if someone said it to you. I'm starting to think you're a mod.

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You guys are hilarious

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Calling db20db a "guy" implies that he is human.

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I know deep down inside there is a friendship kindling...

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It's impossible. The orderlies at the asylum don't allow him to have friends.

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2 hours every Sunday is enough time....

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I don't trust him outside the padded room though.

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Conjugal visits might be in a padded room

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I also enjoy when Shotgun argues with him as well.

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A lot of people don't like him. I've gotten a lot of DM's from people who say they hate him and they try to act nice to him because they don't want to put up with him.

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No way that guy is a mod though. We know who mod5 is and he does not act like mod4

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Somehow db has avoided being banned or have his posts get deleted. There's something up.

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He hasn't crossed that line yet

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Yeah, "everyone" and "a lot", you wildly exaggerating and lying prick. If these supposed posters hate me, why would they even interact with me to begin with then? And, trying to act nice to me IS putting up with me, dumb shit! This allegation, as most of your others, makes absolutely no sense.

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You want me to answer for other people? I'm not a mind reader.

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You've already been doing that on here for years now, presuming to speak for others, while never once trying to deny that you're a misanthrope.

You sure have consistently tried to come across as if you know me better than I know myself.

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I've actually said a few times that I generally don't like people. I mean, you're the perfect example why. I don't know where you're getting this idea that I've never admitted it. I don't look highly of people who troll others, then complain when they bite back and play victim as if it came out of nowhere.

And I'm not speaking for others if they're the ones sending me DM's. They're literally the ones who are saying it. There was even a person who I thought you got along with because I've never seen the two of you go at it, but they have mentioned that you were one of two people on this site they wish would go away.

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This is going to get deleted by the mods.

Standards and moderation here are clearly not clear. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/62b3c5875fa7b83517b44e4b/Are-there-any-mods-left-here?reply=62b455535fa7b83517b45228

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The mods have been hit-and-miss lately.

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Lately????????

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*Especially lately.

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Other than a personal feud between a couple of posters, the only political aspect of this thread has been complaints about it being political. :)

It is, without a doubt, noting a distinct historical event. Perhaps 'the mods' share my more nuanced view on the question.

Planting labels on things, absent a bit of reflection, is somewhat tedious. Have any political axes been ground ? For me, that is the real test. I suppose if someone has an animus against Zelensky's appearance, this might be considered an annoyance, but the fact remains - history happened yesterday, it won't be soon forgotten.

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I once had a post deleted that was titled: "Do you think we've become soft in society?" At no point did I bring up politics, a politician or anything that can be construed as political. None of the responses got political and not a single person got into a fight with anyone. But a mod deleted it saying that it was political. I was just letting you know before the mods deleted your post.

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I get that there are lines, and should be. But they should be intelligently drawn. Without commenting on your case, I did tried to keep the discussion on the historical event, and other than the somewhat tedious complaints, don't think anyone has good cause to complain about noting this rather significant event.

The spirit of the rule is to avoid needless partisan/political contention. I think we've done that here, with a few slight exceptions.

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It won't be history for at least a day or two. Right now, it's politics.

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Why not post this in Politics - it really belongs there.

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Already explained. Does that news bother you ? Was he campaigning for political office ?

I don't post in politics. I post to our community here, and merely wanted to let our folks know it was happening, as already stated.

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The news doesn’t bother me in the slightest, however, the rules clearly state: -
General Discussion
Talk about anything here...except politics.

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I don't consider it politics. You do. So there we disagree.

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It appears that everyone who has responded disagrees with you too.

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So what ? This is not an obviously political event, other than in a very crabbed sence of it.

Churchill's address to Congress is a rather large historic memory over here. Its not considered politics, given the context.

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Of course it's politics. Politics isn't limited to political races.

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Just going to jump in here....

A politician addressing a political body is certainly politics.

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You already stated your opinion. Do you think stating it twice makes it more convincing ? :).

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Nope. Just no acknowledgement that you read my comment, so I was checking to see if I was overlooked or just ignored.

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Oh, yes I read it. :)

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He dressed rather casually for the occasion.

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That seems to be his style, I suppose a gesture to being generally under fire. Don't think I've seen him in a suit & tie in a long, long time.

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This might have been more appropriate

https://youtu.be/oua0Puihrkc

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Funny ! They committed to the bit. I enjoy the ironic slavic sense of humor, or what I have seen of it.

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He's a fucking jerk off. WEF stooge.

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+1 This is definitely Politics.

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This is definitely history :)

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Hopefully it's history tomorrow.

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i thought it was very moving.

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Yes. A lot of drama. The real kind. Amazing for a comedian to wind up where Zelensky has. I'm not sure if there is any historical precedent, given the context.

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My Ukrainian born neighbors were in tears watching it.

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Those people are so incredibly tough and resilient. Can you imagine being without power all winter during such an especially brutal season?

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I can't believe this has gone on this long. It's like its 1943 and the Nazis just keep advancing, but nobody cares.

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The Ukrainians have been resisting fiercely, driving the Russians back and regaining territory.

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