I didn't ignore what you said about theories, just didn't see any point in arguing about it. Scientific theories are based on observation, evidence, and are testable. You are using theory in the common vernacular, but it's generally scientists and engineers that talk about the universe being a simulation. The universe being a simulation is fantasy, which is fine, but there are people (like Elon Musk and Neil degrasse Tyson) who talk about it in a way that gives it credibility when it has none.
As for being arrogant, we have no evidence of life outside Earth, I'm agnostic on the idea. And on Earth, intelligence like ours has only evolved once in 4 billion years, out of billions of species. It might be that intelligence like ours is unique in the universe.
Humans are not a particularly violent species, quite the opposite. It's a Hollywood trope that humans are violent and destined to destroy ourselves but if we were chimpanzees, gorillas, dogs, hyenas, meerkats, and the list goes on, we would rip the deliveryman limb from limb the moment he entered our yard. Humans are cooperative between groups, most animals aren't. Western culture has become less violent over the centuries, and we know that because Westerners are excellent record keepers. Records available from other cultures agree. But all living things are aggressive and fight for territory or resources, and breeding rights when applicable. Any species that didn't fight went extinct a very long time ago. The point being, any alien species we encounter will also be survivors and very possibly aggressive.
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joi2049 (5632)
3 years ago
Again, the theory put forth is simply SPECULATION and is NOT a SCIENTIFIC THEORY. It's more like a case of DAY DREAMING about something. And yes scientists and engineers do also talk about the universe being a simulation, and some of them are also CONVINCED that this may be the case. Ever watch "THROUGH the WORMHOLE???" The matter is discussed in that show.
THEORETICAL PHYSICS is a field of study where lots of SCIENTIFIC THEORIES can't be proven (due to the way you'd also need a COLLIDER as big as a GALAXY in order to PROVE some theories like STRING THEORY).
And YES you're right about how we also have NO EVIDENCE there's other LIFE in the UNIVERSE, but others are also still CONVINCED that there HAS to be, due to the ENORMOUS amount of other SOLAR SYSTEMS and GALAXIES that exist (BILLIONS and BILLIONS of both of them), which some say indicates there surely must be other planets with life on them due to the huge amount and number of them.
Since our planet has also gone though several situations where another PROTO PLANET COLLIDED with us which formed our MOON (which keep us on a STABLE AXIS without which LIFE probably would NOT exist), and we also had the BOMBARDMENT of ASTEROIDS which got rid of the DINOSAURS that were eating MAMMALS for their dinner, etc.,
imo, this is what makes it that much LESS LIKELY that other LIFE on other planets would exist (due to the kind of UNIQUE situations that have taken place on this one).
In other words, I'm also just as AGNOSTIC as you about the matter of other life existing.
But since HUMANS have also been VIOLENT for SEVERAL CENTURIES before HOLLYWOOD ever existed, I also disagree about us NOT being that way. And what about the NUKES??? You still think we've become LESS VIOLENT with the MANUFACTURE of them???
And YES, I also agree with what you say about how an ALIEN SPECIES would also have to be VIOLENT in order to exist.
Because there was also a TV SHOW called "EARTH FINAL CONFLICT" where this issue was addressed, when an ALIEN SPECIES (the TALONS) needed to MATE with a VIOLENT one in order to be able to continue their SPECIES (because they lost the ability to REPRODUCE after they weeded out their AGGRESSIVE tendencies and became NON VIOLENT).
And IF we were to try and reach it (the nearest STAR SYSTEM), then a COMPUTER GRID would probably also appear at some point (like the one that appears to the other 1990's character in "THE THIRTHEEN FLOOR" when he IGNORES the DETOUR signs and tries to leave the LA area). Only OUR GRID would also be some place further out in SPACE.
And if this were the CASE, that could also mean the ADVANCED SPECIES could also have the ABILITY to PROGRAM whatever it is that VOYAGER sends back to us again.
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McQualude (4231)
3 years ago
Maybe we are mind controlled by leprechauns, equally plausible. The simulation thing is just new gods via technology rather than magic.
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joi2049 (5632)
3 years ago
Or maybe our MINDS are MEMORIES that were IMPLANTED into us, like the case is with RACHEL in "BLADE RUNNER," where she has photos of herself as a child with her mother, only to discover that her memories were actually those of the NIECE of the man who had created her.
Because IF we're also REPLICANTS like RACHEL, or are COPIES of something that's a COPY of something else, how would we know???
So no. Leprechauns are NOT needed as a way to comprehend what could be possible, and NO GODS are needed to be considered either whenever discussing such a possibility.
All one needs is the ability to BRAINSTORM -- and take situations into consideration that you're obviously not willing to -- because of the DEVOTION that you seem to have to "GOD of SCIENCE" that you worship -- where NOTHING is worth taking into consideration that doesn't follow the kind of DOGMA that you've set down (which apparently also means no one is permitted to SPECULATE or DREAM about the possibility of other situations that one can't prove).
Surely you must also know what a VERY DULL place this would be if others like yourself also refused to accept someone being able to DREAM and INVENT or MAKE UP things inside of one's mind???
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McQualude (4231)
3 years ago
I'm perfectly happy with a rational explanation for the universe without inventing gods to explain it.
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joi2049 (5632)
3 years ago
The IDEAS coming from inside of my mind have NOTHING whatsoever to do with GODS.
If anything, the THEORY has more to do with OURSELVES (because my favorite idea is the possibility that it's our FUTURE SELVES who have INVENTED US as their playthings).
But somehow we're also going to be able to do something about that and cease to be an amusement for them.
So unless you also consider YOURSELF to be a GOD, then again, NO one is NOT TALKING about a GOD.
Because One is DAYDREAMING about having been created by my FUTURE SELF, and how to fix it so that I can be there in the FUTURE instead of being here in this place where essentially what we have are LOTS of NEANDERTHAL BRAINS walking around in MEAT SUITS.
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