If you constantly think negative thoughts or negative outcomes, are you ultimately just wishing bad luck on yourself?
In other words, are you just inviting trouble?
shareNo. Depression and anxiety are both a thing.
shareI know.
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I am an optimistic person by nature.
shareI would say it this way -- obsessive negative thinking is certain to result in negative outcomes.
shareNegative types tend to be drawn towards more POSITIVE types, and in the process of this, each type tends to ABSORB some the personality traits of their OPPOSITE type.
And the result of this can be both types can tend to BALANCE each other out, to the point where neither one of them is so extreme anymore.
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If you think you’ll fail…
sharemaybe sometimes, but certainly not always.
if you're socially isolated & laughed at your entire life and subjected to all kinds of indignities, you're probably going to have lots of negative thoughts. and you didn't bring any of that on yourself. you can't choose what you are.
I don't know about 'inviting trouble' or wishing bad luck on yourself. I don't know what the mechanism would be for that.
But if you're watching a motorway and concentrating on counting the red vehicles you'll only see the red vehicles. If you're concentrating on blue, you'll only see blue. The rest passes by in a blur. Neither red nor blue provides a realistic overview of the traffic.
A constantly negative mindset is, to me, a bit like permanently counting red cars. You miss the bigger picture and - certainly - no good can come from it.
That’ll be the reptilian part of your brain kicking in.
shareYes, or you are more focused on the negative so that's all you see.
shareNot being able to see the woods for the trees.
shareNot being able to see the woods from the trees.
The EXPRESSION is:
"Someone can't see the FOREST for the TREES."
And here's the reason why the FOREST (or the IRONIC GIST of the SITUATION that you've confronted us with) is so amusing:
Thinking that NEGATIVE THOUGHTS can bring you BAD LUCK or INVITE TROUBLE is also a form of NEGATIVE THINKING (yet you also claim to be a POSITIVE THINKER).
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Typo, now corrected.
And it’s woods in jolly old England.
Thinking that NEGATIVE THOUGHTS can bring you BAD LUCK or INVITE TROUBLE is also a form of NEGATIVE THINKING (yet you also claim to be a POSITIVE THINKER).
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So what about the FACT that you IRONICALLY claim to be a POSITIVE person or THINKER, yet you have still also confronted us with and ASKED us a NEGATIVE type of question???
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Just because I like Rock music, doesn't mean I don’t know what Opera sounds like.
shareI have never wanted to program myself to be cheerful all the time so as to experience life as if it's an uninterrupted joy.
I like being happy because I have a good reason to be happy. I don't believe I try to extend my unhappiness into my interactions with others, but I do know people can tell when I'm depressed versus carefree.
I guess I want my feelings to be genuine and not an effort to Make Friends And Influence People.
And oddly enough, sometimes feeling more Confident sometimes causes me to be less happy because I feel I'm missing out on things that may have been within my grasp.
I understand your premise but I'm a little 50/50 on it's implementation.
I have never wanted to program myself to be cheerful all the time so as to experience life as if it's an uninterrupted joy.
https://www.thefreshreads.com/on-joy-and-sorrow/
On Joy and Sorrow by Kahlil Gibran
Then a woman said, Speak to us of Joy and Sorrow.
And he answered:
Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that holds your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter’s oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, “Joy is greater than sorrow,” and others say, “Nay, sorrow is the greater.”
But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.
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It's tough to stay positive all the time but yes, it's better to 'always
look on the bright side of life' as the Python taught us
Constant negativity just invites more
unhappiness and trouble with other people
Constant negativity just invites more
unhappiness and trouble with other people
And if we chose to IGNORE the NEGATIVE ISSUES that confront us, and try to BRUSH them UNDER the CARPET and HIDE them, then that also does NOTHING to SOLVE the problem or KEEP TROUBLE at bay.
Take the COVID MATTER where we let others decide that they have the RIGHT to be FREE to REJECT getting VACCINATED and INFECT other people with the VIRUS.
If we IGNORE that kind of a SELFISH ATTITUDE, then UNHAPPINESS and TROUBLE surely finds US.
Or what about the other ISSUE where these FIRES, FLOODS, and HURRICANES are a RESULT of MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE (from burning too many FOSSIL FUELS instead of using RENEWABLE ENERGY).
Again, to IGNORE these MATTERS also leads to lots of UNHAPPINESS and TROUBLE for us (like to STARVATION and the EXTINCTION of our SPECIES).
Yet others still also try to IGNORE these matters, and they also claim that they don't even EXIST at all (even when they take their last breath as the DIE from the COVID VIRUS).
And one can also either look at this as being REALISTIC, or one can chose to view it as being TOO NEGATIVE.
But choosing to be REALISITIC will also enable one to OVERCOME such situations better than choosing to IGNORE them, or to view someone as being TOO NEGATIVE who mentions such matters.
Right???
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We should try to stay positive, it's better for ourselves and those around us
shareWe should try to stay positive, it's better for ourselves and those around us
What if we had that kind of attitude towards HITLER during WW2???
How WISE of a decision would that have been to try to STAY POSITIVE about what was happening back then???
Have you seen that film where an ACTOR WON an OSCAR for always staying that way around his young son (even after he's held prisoner inside of a CONCENTRATION CAMP)???
Can't remember the name of that movie now ...
FOUND IT:
Roberto Benigni, Life Is Beautiful (1997)
Life Is Beautiful - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful
>>Life Is Beautiful is a 1997 Italian comedy-drama film directed by and starring Roberto Benigni, who co-wrote the film with Vincenzo Cerami. Benigni plays Guido Orefice, a Jewish Italian bookshop owner, who employs his fertile imagination to shield his son from the horrors of internment in a Nazi concentration camp. The film was partially inspired by the book In the End, I Beat Hitler by Rubino Romeo Salmonì and by Benigni's father, who spent two years in a German labour camp during World War II.
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Oh for fuck's sake, stop being absurd
Andy was discussing personal attitude, not Mt. Vesuvius type stuff🙄
What's Mt. Vesuvius got to do with it???
What's ABSURD is to be either TOO POSITIVE or TOO NEGATIVE, because as other posters have also pointed out, either kind of an ATTITUDE can get on the nerves of someone.
POLLYANNA was also an OPTIMIST as well (the HALEY MILLS version), but look what happened to her.
She ends up a CRIPPLE who can't walk because of her effort to try to CHEER UP other people.
But people also tend to forget about that or about how that movie did have a HAPPILY EVER AFTER type of an ending.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollyanna_(1960_film)
>>Pollyanna is a 1960 feature film, starring child actress Hayley Mills, Jane Wyman, Karl Malden, and Richard Egan, in a story about a cheerful orphan changing the outlook of a small town
>>Pollyanna is a very cheerful, talkative, and radically optimistic youngster who focuses on the goodness of life and always finds something to be glad about, no matter the situation. In doing so, Pollyanna's positive outlook on everything results in her making a wide variety of friends in the community, including the hypochondriac and grouchy Mrs. Snow and the acidic recluse Mr. Pendergast.
>>After realizing her legs are paralyzed and that she may not walk again, Pollyanna develops severe depression, jeopardizing her chance of recovery.
What the hell do Hurricanes, Nazis and Covid have to do with the OP???
If you respond with a mile long post be assured I will not read it
Have a good evening
THE TOPIC is THIS:
If you constantly think negative thoughts or negative outcomes, are you ultimately just wishing bad luck on yourself?
posted a day ago by AndyKing1967 (16175)
In other words, are you just inviting trouble?
MY REPLY is THIS:
it's ... MAGICAL THINKING to assume that we can CONTROL something with our ATTITUDE towards it when we CANNOT.
So my opinion is still NO to (the) QUESTION of whether or not the way that we view something (POSITIVELY or NEGATIVELY) INVITES TROUBLE or BRINGS BAD LUCK to us.
If anything, you INVITE TROUBLE by always thinking that things will WORK OUT for the BEST instead of being more REALISTIC and being able to accept it whenever they DO NOT.
Because, Imo, MORE TROUBLE RESULTS from the ATTEMPT to try to DENY, COVER UP, or IGNORE a PROBLEM (to SWEEP it under the RUG), than to FACE IT and DEAL with it.
And the IRONY is how thinking NEGATIVE THOUGHTS can bring you BAD LUCK or INVITE TROUBLE is also a form of NEGATIVE THINKING.
And Good Evening to you too.
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As soon as I read the synopsis of Life Is Beautiful I said, no way am I watching this.
At some point I might relent if the opportunity arose, but it sounds painful, not funny and not instructive.
Yes it was very strange to see a prisoner inside of a concentration camp PRETENDING to his young son as if life was still suppose to be NORMAL.