Yes, the first round of infections largely spared young and young-ish adults, but that's all over. The Delta Variant is sending young adults to the hospital in previously unforseen numbers, and not all of them are coming out alive. Public health officials are no urging kids 12-18 to get the shot, it's now available to teenagers.
I'm already vaccinated but you're not going to change anyone's mind with this. We have to wait until they see people dying they know..Maybe then things will change.
Getting vaccinated *before* people start dying en masse and the hospitals are overwhelmed will do a lot more good, and I can only try.
Hey, people, if your friends and family are anti-vax and would give you a hard time if you went against the herd and got vaccinated, no worries! You don't have to tell them you got the jab!
Yeah, but all your neighbors have to do to tell if you are lying is to put a piece of metal up to your skin and see if it sticks. Anti-vaxxers are just that stupid.
I took the vaccine and made sure my 85 year-old father did too, but I think healthy young people have to weigh the balance of risks. If I had children, I would not allow them to take the vaccine unless they had a medical condition that compromised their immune system.
The problem with fake news is that it remains fake no matter how much you repeat it. All versions of SARS-CoV-2 affect all age groups, it's just that the mortality rates are significantly higher with older and infirm people.
The real issue is that everyone knows the vaccine isn't anywhere close to 95% effective and we're being told tales of how getting the vaccine means we cannot catch SARS-CoV-2 and cannot die from it to keep us from panicking. There's a reduced chance yes, but not enough to allow young people to keep spreading the virus around to the old people who have such belief in the vaccine protecting them enough that they no longer bother to wear masks.
I say also, only in the world of fake news does anyone actually believe 70% vaccinated is anywhere near enough to provide a herd immunity effect. All being said just to keep the public from panicking, we need closer to 99% immunized to reduce the spread of the virus enough to provide herd immunity protections, and this vaccine isn't particularly good at providing a sterilizing immunity.
More reason why we shouldn't be dropping our guard which is naturally only going to result in a resurgence of cases. The issue has always been the young people, who are germ factories, spreading to older people. It was a mistake to pretend we didn't need 100% vaccination compliance when the science said we did, just like it's a mistake to try starting up panic to get young people vaccinated instead of explaining the reality that they can easily become carriers, never know they have the virus, and spread it to their parents or loved ones. Emphasize that social distancing and masks are bare minimum protections, and not enough to save their parent's lives if they spread the virus.
You're completely IGNORANT of the FACT that the purpose of reaching that 70% VACCINATED point is to STOP the VIRUS from SPREADING enough for it to KEEP MUTATING into PROGRESSIVELY WORSE VARIATIONS of the VIRUS such as the DELTA VERSION of it which is MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS and DEADLY than the ALPHA or original version of it that we had LAST YEAR.
In other words, it's the BODIES of the UNVACCINATED where the VIRUS MUTATES into MORE CONTAGIOUS and DEADLY FORMS --
NEW MUTATED FORMS of it like the DELTA STRAIN of it --
which is also KILLING YOUNG FOLKS now instead of OLDER FOLKS who had ENOUGH SENSE to get VACCINATED.
In other words, it's people LIKE YOU who keep SPREADING MISINFORMATION that are CREATING these NEW MUTANT STRAINS that are also going to DEFEAT the ability of the VACCINE to PROTECT people who have been VACCINATED.
And that's also why COMPANIES and other BUSINESSES need to make it MANDATORY for people to be VACCINATED before they can WORK at their JOBS. And that also includes SPORTS like AMERICAN FOOTBALL where the VIRUS also keeps SPREADING. So what they need to do is REFUSE to let any TEAM PLAY a GAME until and unless ALL members of that TEAM are VACCINATED.
Because it's also NOT RIGHT or FAIR for the UNVACCINATED to keep INFECTING those who are VACCINATED and putting their LIVES at RISK.
2 days ago I also called for an UBER DRIVER and was told that ALL DRIVERS were VACCINATED and WORE MASKS. So who shows up??? A MIDDLE AGED UNVACCINATED WOMAN who wasn't wearing a MASK and didn't believe in getting VACCINATED. And that's also the LAST TIME she'll ever take me anywhere again, because IF she shows up again I'll also REFUSE to RIDE with her inside of her car again.
And THANK YOU for the contributions that you've made to my other COVID TOPICS which are also VERY MUCH APPRECIATED !!!
On CNN a few min ago they just had a MEDICAL EXPERT explain how the NOSE of those who are INFECTED with the DELTA MUTATION have 1,000 TIMES more VIRUS PARTICLES in them which is why the VIRUS is SPREADING so easily.
He also said NO other VIRUS has ever been this CONTAGIOUS before, and pointed out how we're also only on the LETTER D now, and imagine how much WORSE it's going to get once we begin moving on to the other LETTERS of the ALPHABET (meaning other NEW MUTANT STRAINS of the VIRUS which will also be even MORE DEADLY and WORSE than the DELTA STRAIN of it).
It's definitely time to put a STOP to people being TOO SELFISH to get VACCINATED who also put ALL the REST of us AT RISK who have been.
Then your science denying nonsense is what got him elected in the first place. People who hate science as much as you do don't understand anything about this virus and spew complete BS because understanding facts is scary to them.
There is no scientific reasoning behind the random crap being spewed by politicians (yes, even doctors can be politicians), COVID-19 isn't going to go away anytime with in the next 100 years. Anyone who is educated understands this to be true.
Anyone who is educated understands that so much of the crap politicians and faux-doctors are spewing is to control the information that there is nothing we can do to "go back to normal." That everyone, be they vaccinated or not vaccinated, is capable of catching this illness and capable of spreading it.
We do not have a vaccine that provides sterilizing immunity. For a virus like this it is unlikely we'll develop one. Painfully low balled numbers mask just how screwed we are.
You're anti-science because you're against science which is saying that SARS-CoV-2 is quite unlike polio, which even with polio we were vaccinating near 100% not a random number like 70% (for a more infectious virus none the less). What fake news reports to calm the public and what our reality is differ quite a bit.
In fact, we didn't eradicate polio, it still exists and because polio vaccination rates are going down there are pro-vaxxers who were trying to explain to anti-science people that even a small percentage of anti-vaxxers is enough to put the vaccinated people in danger of catching the disease. SARS-CoV-2 has been undoing all the hard work pro-vaxxers were doing to educate the public on how stupid it is to be an anti-vaxxer by spreading blatant lies and misinformation.
Even worse are the lies about stopping mutations, you need to understand that the vaccine only lowers the chances of you showing symptoms or dying if you do show symptoms. People who are vaccinated can catch and can spread SARS-CoV-2.
The only method of treating this pandemic is for people to stop listening to politicians and recognize we all need to self-quarantine. People want to believe the vaccine is going to end the pandemic when every medical doctor knows it isn't. This has become endemic, it is going to be with us for the rest of our lives.
I get that you're a complete idiot, you need 99% vaccinated for the vaccine to be effective at stopping any spread you anti-science trump voting lunatic.
> The problem with fake news is that it remains fake no matter how much you repeat it.
It's bad writing to open your essay with something unrelated to your thesis ... which is about Covid-19, not fake new. You do not reference anything that you claim is fake news, nor do you tell us why. You just change the subject. It's crap writing.
Apparently it's going to take the DEATHS of many more 22 YR OLDS (one who also had to have a DOUBLE LUNG TRANSPLANT to save his life) before enough people STOP the MADNESS of refusing to be VACCINATED.
One woman said she finally got VACCINATED after her son got sick with the DEADLY DELTA STRAIN. So unless and until more of the UNVACCINATED have FAMILY MEMBERS who GET SICK and DIE of it, nothing much is going to change.
And even then it still might not, due to the way the NEWS also keeps showing that VIDEO of that RED NECK MAN (the one with the VERY THICK SOUTHERN ACCENT) who got SICK and was HOSPITALIZED with COVID, but STILL insisted that HE WON'T get VACCINATED. And when asked why, he also said just because he's NOT going to be TOLD what to do by someone else who has AN AGENDA.
The AGENDA that he's talking about of course is to SAVE HIS WORTHLESS and USELESS SELFISH LIFE that has NO REGARD whatsoever for the LIVES of anyone else that he puts in DANGER with his IGNORANT kind of an ATTITUDE.
the agenda isnt saving anyones life u silly sheep. the agenda is to ruin your life and eliminate you as a threat. covid isnt the pandemic the vaccine is the real pandemic that will change the world for all those who where brainwashed enough to listen to big media and big government
The anti-vaccine stuff is irrational, emotions overruling intellect, facts won't change their minds. I got the shot and social distance, especially from red tribe, so I'm as safe as I can get.
its not irrational. many people have been fucked up by the medical system and have very rational fears about them. u cant trust the doctor anymore than u can trust ur local street meth dealer they sre both nothing but money hungry thugs
See, that is irrational. Yeah, some people are going to get fucked by the medical system, some are going to get fucked by the vaccine, some will get fucked by FedEx, some will get fucked by Dell Computers, some will get fucked by AT&T, some will get fucked by the govt, but a lot more people will get fucked by the anti-vaccine propaganda coming out of Russia and the anti-mask/vaccine rhetoric coming from the red tribe. People benefit from vaccines, and the overwhelming majority will benefit from the covid vaccines. Don't want it, don't get it. The people who suffer most will be you and the people you love.
no the people who will suffer if i dont take it will be old fat out of shape muricans. i will be the one who suffers if i get this mcfranklinvaccine that i dont need, my balls might stop working who knows what the REAL purpose of this vaccine is, my gut tells me the side effects are the real reason they are pushing this thing, they will make a lot of money and control a huge portion of population who are sick from the effects in future. i am pretty healthy and my lifestyle has only got even more active and healthy recently after starting to live out of a van for long periods of time. i workout, quit hard drugs, eat healthy, work very little since i am rich again after this hyperinflation, and am in the best shape of my life right now. i trust my God given immune system to protect me from virus. i believe fear and stress is the biggest cause of disease. if u are scared and wear a mask all day restricting your oxygen supply out of the fear you are stressing out your immune system and actually making yourself more of a victim to the virus. if u just dont give a fuck and live life like the virus isnt even a thing then ur lack of stress and fear will put you in the greatest healthiest position to fight the virus. i dont need no science bitches vaccine. that shit is wack and only sheep are lining up for the slaughter
You are making decisions based on irrational fears, but like I said, you will only be hurting you and yours. My sister's family used to say the exact things you are saying then they got c19. 5 weeks in the hospital and weekly followups for therapy and she is starting to get around again. Her old man wasn't so lucky, he endured 5 weeks of pain then died. Good luck. Hopefully Uncle Darwin doesn't come knocking.
Per the article below, Israel is now saying that the vaccine is 39% effective against the delta variant so that doesn't sound like an effective vaccine. There are also a lot of unknown short-term and long-term side effects of this vaccine. The articles below show an eighteen-year-old had a heart attack after the Pfizer vaccine and a thirteen-year-old died after his second Pfizer dose. Another article shows how a fifty-six-year-old doctor died after the Pfizer vaccine. There are plenty of casualties from this vaccine but they are not reported on by certain media sources. I suspect big pharma is going to buy lots of advertising if the media promotes the vaccine and there will probably be big pharma contributions to the Biden Presidential library.
I have recently this year been vaccinated twice, so were my parents and my brother had his first vaccine and will get a second one later in August after my dad's 69th birthday. :)
We humans all have different genes and these vaccines have vastly different side effects on different people. I'm just concerned when a shot that is designed to send messages to a person's messenger RNA. The overall efficacy of the vaccine is questionable and there is a big downside risk for some people. Congratulations on your family's successful vaccinations but will you have the same success after the next booster shot?
Cancer patients get the same kind of shots to CURE their cancer. One woman who had UTERINE cancer had a HYSTERECTOMY (removed her UTERUS, OVARIES, tubes, etc.), and then she also had CHEMO and RADIATION treatments, and the CANCER still came back again in her LUNGS.
So they gave her a DRUG that TARGETED her DNA, and that finally worked.
Still Another woman who was only given ONE YEAR to live also had TARGETED THERAPY to deal with her CANCER:
>>Shortly after Ginger started treatment at MD Anderson, pathologists had analyzed tissue from her tumor. They found she had a rare mutation in the RET gene, known as a RET fusion. This made her eligible to participate in a clinical trial of a new drug named BLU-667 (scientific name pralsetinib) that targets her specific mutation.
>>Ginger began the targeted therapy clinical trial, led by Vivek Subbiah, M.D., in March 2019 and has improved tremendously. Her brain metastases have shrunk, and her cancer remains stable more than a year later.
So the unnecessary kind of FEAR that you have (that they DON'T KNOW what they're doing) is also UNFOUNDED, because they've also been working with DRUGS like this that TARGET our GENES for several years now.
And they also have the KNOWLEDGE to CREATE NEWER VACCINES that will TARGET any kind of NEWER MUTATIONS that the COVID VIRUS comes up with.
These are totally different situations and totally different types of sickness. I'm talking about healthy people who are being told to take a vaccine that is 39% effective with potential side effects. You're talking about people who are SICK with cancer and have a few years to live. My big sis was given a DNA/RNA treatment for her stage 4 cancer and it didn't work. People with cancer are desperate to stop the spread of the cancer so taking chances on experimental therapies might be worth the risk. My sister's battle with cancer lasted over four years while some people die of cancer in a matter of months.
I'm perfectly healthy so I shouldn't be forced to take an ineffective vaccine that could give me harmful short-term side effects and potentially unknown long-term side effects.
The VACCINE is 95% EFFECTIVE at keeping people from GETTING SICK or ILL enough to need to go to the HOSPITAL.
The 39% you mention is in REFERENCE to the DELTA MUTATION.
And that's why they now say anyone OVER AGE 65 (who got the VACCINE 6 months ago) will need to get a BOOSTER SHOT.
But eventually they'll also have a DOSE that will DIRECTLY TARGET the MUTATED DELTA form.
And they'll also be able to TARGE GAMMA and all the rest of the MUTATIONS that will be created.
Sorry to hear your sister's treatment didn't work.
What kind of cancer did she have???
How old was she???
The ISSUE is this:
IF you get COVID it will give you MUCH WORSE EFFECTS of the ILLNESS and it could POTENTIALLY also result in LONG HAUL ILLNESS as well -- IF you were LUCKY ENOUGH to SURVIVE having it and LIVED through it.
In other words, the VACCINE will also keep you ALIVE and from getting as SICK as you'd get IF you catch the MUTATED DELTA STRAIN of it which is also a much more CONTAGIOUS form of it.
Because the VACCINE will also be able to TARGET the VIRUS and keep you from getting as SICK as you'll get without having had it.
I don't think the 95% efficacy number was ever accurate since they didn't adequately test this vaccination before releasing it. I'd want to see how they ran their studies to arrive at 95% efficacy. It sounded like they arrived at the 95% efficacy number after giving people the vaccine and letting them self-quarantine.
There are hundreds of variants of covid out there so the virus will probably not be effective against the Lambda variant and the many others. The vaccine is causing problems for a lot of people so they should not be forced to take it. I still contend that 18-40 year-olds should not be required to be vaccinated but the vaccine might be advisable for people who are old, obese or have other health issues.
My big sis was 49 when she died of stage 4 colon cancer.
It appears to me that the covid cure might be worse than the disease for some people. Breakthrough cases are on the rise and Pfizer wants to sell a booster shot due to the FAILURE of their initial vaccine.
lambda isn’t yet considered a “variant of concern" by the WHO. The agency reserves that label for variants that have been shown more definitively to spread faster, make people sicker, or evade vaccines or treatments. That group includes the alpha, beta, gamma and delta variants.
researchers at NYU found that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had no problem neutralizing lambda. The variant showed a slight resistance to the two mRNA vaccines, but the shots were still highly effective, according to the study
What PROVES the VACCINE has been 95% effective is 99% of those who are in the HOSPITAL are the UNVACCINATED.
Otherwise, there'd also be a much higher percentage of those who were VACCINATED in there now.
It's my understanding that there are only 4 VARIATIONS or MUTATIONS of the VIRUS with DELTA being number 4.
The VACCINE is also causing problems for LESS than ONE PERCENT of those who take it. And CHILDREN and 20, 30, and 40 YEAR OLDS also DIE every day now who also have NO OTHER CO MORBIDITY ISSUES (like being overweight, etc.) One 5 yr old child also DIED who had no other prior health issues.
How long ago did your sister pass away???
Do you really want to RISK getting SICK with COVID and put your family through the worry that you may also not survive???
Again, the percentage of people who have problems with the vaccine is something like .006 % of the POPULATION, making CATCHING COVID the worse choice in comparison to the other CHOICE of getting VACCINATED.
The BREAKTHROUGH cases are MOSTLY VERY MILD to where the symptoms are similar to having a COLD. Or sometimes people who are VACCINATED even have NO SYMPTOMS at all, and don't even know they've got the VIRUS.
And hardly anyone in that category needs to go to the HOSPITAL unless they've already got a compromised immune system from having CHEMO treatments or something like that.
And THE VACCINE is also FREE of charge to you, meaning you don't PAY anything for it.
But NEW LAWS have been passed now in some places that say you must BE TESTED on a regular basis for COVID in order to WORK in some places, and you'd also have to PAY for those COVID TEST.
So that's the CHOICE you might face:
1) Either GET VACCINATED for FREE (which could SAVE your LIFE and keep you out of the HOSPITAL)
2) Or else PAY once or twice a week for a COVID TEST that is going to COST YOU PLENTY in the LONG RUN if you decide not to get VACCINATED.
According to the article below, forty percent of hospitalizations in the UK involve vaccinated people. I don't believe that 99% hospitalization number that Fauci goes on about. There is a large disparity between the UK hospitalization numbers and the USA hospitalization numbers.
The MD in the article below says there are eleven named variants. I thought I saw on the internet that there were hundreds and I believe it's possible due to the spread/mutations of this virus. I'm confident that there are variants in Africa/China that are unknown.
My sister passed away in the last five years but let's keep her out of the conversation. Her death is irrelevant since she did not die of covid.
The vaccines are not free. Citizens are paying for them through higher taxes. The vaccine might not cost anything but I don't believe trips to the doctor for vaccine complications are not covered.
According to the article below, 27 people died in TN who were fully vaccinated.
What's happening in the UK has little to do with what's happening HERE in the USA because MOST of those in the UK are getting a different kind of a VACCINE. Therefore comparing what happens there to what happens here is like comparing an APPLE to an ORANGE.
>>Apr 07, 2021 · In the UK, the AstraZeneca and Pfizer coronavirus jabs have been used in the vaccine rollout, with the Moderna vaccine just being administered in Wales - but there are key differences between all the Covid vaccines, particularly when it comes to the new variants.
Which Covid-19 vaccines has the UK ordered?
>>Oxford-AstraZeneca: There were initially four million doses of the Oxford vaccine ready for use in the UK, but in total the government has ordered 100 million shots - enough to inoculate 50 million Brits.
>>Pfizer-BioNTech: BioNTech's chief business officer, Sean Marrett, said the UK will receive five million doses this year, plus another 35 million shots after that.
So with MOST of the population getting AZ (which we don't get), naturally they'd also have different results.
That other VARIANT that you mentioned from PERU is so INSIGNFICANT that it's NOT even worth mentioning (due to the way THE DELTA STRAIN is the DOMINANT MUTANT Variation that now accounts for 80% of infections here in the US). So that's why the MAIN FOCUS remains on only 4 of them. This is the problem, the way you tend to FOCUS upon situations that are insignificant and ignore the LARGER ISSUE which is CATCHING COVID itself by NOT getting VACCINATED.
Some people can't see the FOREST for the TREES, whereas you're way too busy looking at the LEAVES with a microscope while ignoring how the FOREST itself around you is also on FIRE.
And I'm also still very sorry to hear about what's happened to your sister.
And I'll also GLADLY PAY HIGHER TAXES if that's what it takes to get people VACCINATED.
Those 27 people who died were IMMUNOCOMPROMISED. In other words, their IMMUNE SYSTEMS were compromised because they were receiving CHEMO treatments or going through some other HEALTH ISSUE at the time. And I also know that's what happened because I also began a TOPIC about them when they first mentioned it on the news.
YOU:
This ineffective vaccine is the cure that is worse than the disease.
ME:
SO NO. NOT GETTING VACCINATED is MUCH WORSE than GETTING VACCINATED with the VERY EFFECTIVE VACCINE which is PROTECTING US now.
BECAUSE the UNVACCINATED are the one's who DIE now, whereas LAST YEAR it was mostly the ELDERLY who DIED.
But since MOST of the ELDERLY are VACCINATED now, now it's MOSTLY the still UNVACCINATED CHILDREN and those in their 20's, 30's, and 40's who are being KILLED by THE DELTA STRAIN of COVID.
Those UK vaccines were approved and they are failing.
The Pfizer vaccine was approved in the US and it is failing. 39% efficacy is failing.
I have zero confidence in the 99% number that is thrown out. I don't think it's accurate. Fauci and Wollensky claim that 99% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated but I don't trust the numbers.
I care about individuals (trees/leaves) while many just care about the forest ( the economy).
There isn't any mention of the 27 individuals being immunocompromised in the article that I provided. Per the article below, the 56-year-old Miami doctor who died two weeks after his Pfizer shot also was determined to have died from a supposed immune disorder.
If the Lambda spreads throughout South/Central America, we might have to worry about it due to the hordes of undocumented/unvaccinated/untested people streaming over the border.
The VACCINE is 95% EFFECTIVE is PREVENTING people who've had it from GETTING SICK enough to DIE or need HOSPITAL CARE.
That 39% has NOTHING to do with the VACCINE not PROTECTING people.
MOST VACCINES lose their POTENCY given enough time. That's why we need to get VACCINATED each year with a FLU shot.
And it's the reason why we also need other shots every so often.
But that still doesn't mean the SHOT ITSELF is USELESS.
It just means it WEARS OUT with the passage of TIME (which is also perfectly NORMAL).
I don't trust the numbers.
Whether you TRUST them or not, they STILL INDICATE you're going to SCREWED BIGTIME if you don't get VACCINATED and catch COVID, whereas if you GET VACCINATED you won't GET SICK enough to need to be in the HOSPITAL or DIE from it.
The article also explains how the VIRUS in PERU isn't an ISSUE due to the way THE DELTA MUTANT STRAIN is MORE POTENT.
That's why it WIPED out the PERU VERSION and has now taken POSSESSION of 80% of the COVID CASES in the US.
IT's like the DELTA STRAIN was an 800 POUND GORILLA in comparison to the other WHIMPY version from PERU.
And that's also why the version from PERU isn't an issue (due to the way the BIG BAD DELTA STRAIN beat it's butt when it encountered it).
Unfortunately unless you GO GET VACCINATED, waiting to see what happens could also mean the END of your life and us NEVER getting another opportunity to speak again for that reason.
So PLEASE GO GET yourself VACCINATED before it's TOO LATE !!!