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Tales of the stupid.


Gonna tell you a story. A true one. I'm half amused, half disgusted by this.

Most people here in Appalachia are decent enough, but we do have some weird types. There's a family in the next town over who are notorious in this area. I don't think the widowed matriarch has ever been in trouble with the law, but her daughters, adult grandchildren, and extended kin sure have. They seem to live in a hamster-wheel cycle with three phases.

In Phase One, they use drugs and commit property crimes to support their habits. Because they do these crimes while living a druggie's lifestyle, they don't plan them well but instead do them stupidly. So of course they're eventually caught, convicted, and move to Phase Two -- incarceration. After release they move to Phase Three -- praising Jesus and proclaiming they've found the straight and narrow path. During that time they probably don't do drugs. After a while they get bored with Phase Three and move back to Phase One where things start over again.

They don't do these things simultaneously, and each goes through the cycle at her own pace. At any moment, some family members are living la criminale vita, some are guests of the state, and some are polishing the church pews with their derrieres. Judging from their Facebook posts, they seem to all get along with each other. The churchgoing ones don't look down on the others or feel any shame on their behalf, for example, and when one goes off to jail the others seem to accept it as one of those unfortunate things that sometimes happen in life, in the same way you or I would regard canceling a day at the beach because of rain.

Meanwhile, they've got one cousin who is a criminal defense attorney. He's got pretty much a full time practice defending his relatives, presumably in exchange for free meals at Grandma's. I've met him a few times, we're casual acquaintances, but I don't ask questions. He seems happy enough. If it were me, I'd take the law degree and move someplace far, far away.

About twenty years ago he tried to fix me up with his cousin Lisa (not her real name), a daughter of the family matriarch. I politely declined, citing the age difference -- she was then in her early twenties and I was in my late thirties. In reality I was thinking, no way. Nothing but trouble in that clan. I've run into her a few times since then. Small town life is like that. She was certainly cute and still is. So was Casey Anthony.

Naah, that's a cheap shot. Whatever these people are, they're not murderers or even violent. Their crimes are generally low-grade shit. Theft of a few hundred dollars, possession of small amounts of cocaine. You get the idea.

In the fall of 2019, Lisa was sentenced to five years for second degree burglary. I don't think any American con has ever got parole on the first try. But at her second hearing they gave her the thumbs up. A few weeks ago, after serving 21 months of her sentence, she was released. She short-circuited the cycle, though. Within two weeks she had violated her parole, and now she's locked up again.

Wow.

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Sounds like a bunch you were smart to avoid

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They're one of three clans of lowlifes who live in the area. Like this bunch, the other two families are full of people who are constantly getting into trouble with stupid shit. If you go to arrests.org and search for this county and either of the other two families' surnames you get lots of mugshots. At least those two families have stable relationships. The matriarch in this bunch has had multiple marriages and so have her daughters, meaning there are all sorts of half-sibling and other such relationships and different surnames. I don't know how they keep things straight.

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This sounds like a Coen Brothers/Southern Gothic type thriller but with very few stars lol

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you have a gift for narrative, my friend. droll, perceptive, slightly tragic.

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> you have a gift for narrative, my friend.

Thank you.

> slightly tragic.

It's not her first felony conviction. She did some time in Tennessee when she decided that dealing cocaine was her path to the good life. Meanwhile she's had two children who have spent much of their childhoods being raised by extended family. (Same obviously goes for many of their cousins.) I understand that some people have wild lives when young, but you'd think that someone who's past forty would tire of it and want to settle down to a stable life. I guess not.

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Here's one, I was in a thrift store near a crap neighborhood. Two trashy lowlife types came in, with a toddler who was eating a popsicle. After ignoring the sprat for a long time, the mother realized that the toddler's shirt was now almost completely covered in red popsicle drips, so she dragged the kid into the children's section and took a shirt off the rack and put it on the kid, and threw the popsicle drip shirt on the floor. I could see it, the clerk could see it, so as they tried to leave without buying anything, the clerk demanded they pay for the shirt or he was calling the police! A long argument over a one-dollar used kid's shirt ensued, and finally, the purple-faced father put the dollar on the counter and was about to storm out, when...

[Cue the real-life punch line]

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Dad says "Oh yeah, wait a minute, gimme a job application! I need to apply for a job to keep my unemployment checks coming."

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Now there's a dirtbag with a solid gold plan the rest of us can pay for🙄

I hope he got hit by a truck when he stepped out of the shop

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Wow! LOL!

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Go on...

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Your story needs a good guy or girl, have any broke the mold and become respectable?

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Lisa's adult daughter looks like she'll turn out all right. Probably as much from having Mom as a bad example as from anything else. And the attorney doesn't get involved in the bad activities, he just represents the ones who do. A few others in the family don't get involved in that stuff ever, but they seem to be the exceptions rather than the rule. Some of the members stop the cycle, but they don't go hyper-religious, they just get sick of The Life and settle down, get ordinary jobs, etc. But most of the adult family members have done time at least once.

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And the cycle will continue on and on. Some serious intervention is needed here.

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> Some serious intervention is needed here.

Yep. As I said, she's past forty and still doing this shit. I wonder what she fancies her retirement years as being like. Or for that matter, if she even thinks ahead in that way. Well ... Not. My. Problem. At all.

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Very impressive, and you were smart not to marry into that family.

There are actually many humorous stories about "the world's dumbest criminals," as well as "dumb way to die" stories out there. I mean, when people say "the truth is stranger than fiction," they're not joking!

It's a pity nobody in this clan has won a Darwin Award yet.

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> you were smart not to marry into that family.

Marry? Not even close. I declined going on a single date with her. There are two types of guys around here. The ones like me are amicable enough toward them but won't have any serious involvement with them. Lisa is a real sweetie in her own way and if she ever needed a favor, say, a ride somewhere, I might do it. I wouldn't let her in my home, though, she's been arrested for theft too many times. The other type doesn't care and befriends them or more. By the time her cousin tried to set us up, Lisa had already had one child from an out of wedlock cohabitation, and later had a second. Sometimes the friends end up regretting it. I don't think she'd steal from a lover, but I know of a few people who considered her a good friend and were betrayed that way.

> It's a pity nobody in this clan has won a Darwin Award yet.

Funny thing, with as much drug use as they do, AFAIK none of them have ever had a DUI arrest. Of course that doesn't mean they have been passengers in cars with impaired drivers. Saturday nights around here can get pretty wild like that. And they do seem to be smart enough to stay away from meth and oxycontin and stick with marijuana and cocaine. They know their limits.

I mentioned that there were two other clans of lowlifes. One of those is full of violent dumbasses, the sort who make Lisa and her kinfolk look like Mensa members. A lot of barroom brawls, that sort of thing. Also, the stereotype of hillbilly families is that their family trees have branches which are entangled in some unnatural ways. Nothing like that going on with Lisa's family, but with this bunch ... no one except them knows for sure, but there are rumors. If anyone gets a Darwin award it will be one of them.

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every small town has family like this and the daughters are usually cute. it's like a test of some kind.

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> it's like a test of some kind.

LOL -- yeah, that's a good way to look at it.

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Yikes!

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