They say "pe-where-ah Reeco" or "pe-where-toe Reeco".
Although spanish is hard to pronounce, they could at least say it as:
Pe-whair-though Reeco".
Even though it's not perfect, it's so much closer.
Question: Why is it ok for non English speakers to mutilate the English language but other languages seem sacred?
shareIt's not a foreign word per se if it's America territory, but it should be pronounced closer to how those who live there pronounce it.
Each language has its own set of sounds called phonemes. English has 44, spanish has 24.
So we have more sounds to master if you're learning, and without speech therapy, most adults can't make the transition.
So the trick is to create a closest match.
Pe-whair-though Reeco is easy to say, constructed of English sounds.
Puerto rico means rich port, but as most Americans say it, they're saying rich door (puerta instead of puerto).
It's still based on the Spanish language though.
I'm sticking with how I say it.
If it's American territory than the Porto Rican's need to adapt to American ways.
It's SPANISH.
Most Americans do NOT speak SPANISH.
How fucking hard is that to get.
Yes, I can pronounce Puerto Rico properly but who gives a F.
I thought it was "pwer-toe ree-ko", and not the "porter ree-ko" that most Americans use.
shareSame here. With a Spanish r, of course.
shareYou don't roll the single r. It is the double rr that gets the tongue roll. Actual different letters in the Spanish alphabet.
I don't know about this "L" pronunciation though. News to me. Skeptical.
Uhm, no. It's not exactly the same as a 'r' at the beginning of a word, but still no "th".
shareIs this thread a war of dialect? Select 4 people from Mexico in places 100 miles from each other and see if they agree on this topic.
All I have is 2 years of Spanish in high school and growing up around California Mexicans. So I'm no expert. But I'm reading a lot of Spain style language rules and other angles on the Spanish language that don't scan for me.
Mexican Spanish isn't real Spanish anyway!
Sure, if you're an American who has trouble rolling the r, you can go with a 'd' to come as close as possible. But all r's are definitely rolled in Spanish.
No. "r" is "ere" in the Spanish alphabet. "rr" is "erre." "rr" is rolled. "r" is hard at start of a word but sometimes has a soft d sound in some words. What you are hearing isn't a shortcut for those whom can't roll their Rs. The rolled r is ONLY called for when the letter rr is present.
What if you aren't American and have trouble rolling your Rs? Somehow different?
Are you deaf or something?
https://youtu.be/4rs35jYMZC4
https://youtu.be/74IzIRkx-7E
https://youtu.be/iJiFPQdX0yM
https://youtu.be/wJgEUr4Ka0c
https://youtu.be/Z7W5yzb76yE
I just assumed you were American.🤷‍♀️
Why didn't you say "A person who has trouble rolling their Rs?"
shareBecause some other languages also have a rolled 'r'. I was simply talking from an American perspective, because I thought you were American. That's all.
shareOK, after some research in hopes of finding data supporting my lessons from 35 years ago, I discovered that while I was right about rr, I did not remember that one trills the single r when it is at the beginning of a word as well. (and sometimes at end)
So I was wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkPMSWJbF1M
You may kill one out of every ten of my men but please do not salt my fields.
Not toe because you'll use the roof of your mouth for that T sound. If you say Though you're using your teeth for the break in sound like Latinos do.
To their ears, Toe sounds like Roe, because their RS come off of the roof of their mouth.
I remember in the 1980s American newscasters pronouncing Nicaragua with a Spanish accent to show how woke they were, before "woke" was a term.
shareRecently a newsreader was using latino pronunciation for american towns/cities with spanish names. People complained.
I actually think that things should be pronounced as the viewers like it. For example, pasadena. (Pass-ah-dee-nah). It sounds weird if someone were to say "pah-sah-deh-nah".
But Americans completely mispronounce Puerto Rico, saying rich door instead of rich port, so it should be remedied.
Los Angeles Times at one point was printing words like "taco" and "churro" in italics because they were exotic Spanish words. Stupid AF. Must have been for the benefit of transplanted New Yorkers and such.
share"benefit of transplanted New Yorkers and such."
Huh? New Yorkers eat tacos and churros.
Then I guess I should pronounce Germany - Deutschland because that is what the country is called in Germany.
Or examples in Italy:
Roma is the Italian name (and spelling) and Rome is the English name. Many cities have different English spellings to their originals, for example: Firenze is Florence.
Nippon for Japan as well.
shareBut Puerto Rico isn't a different word, it just needs to be pronounced better especially given that it is US territory and a candidate for a future state.
Pwair-though Ree-co.
No - I don't think I should try to sound like a native Spanish speaker. Just like Louisville, KY - people in the area pronounce it Loo-uh-vul and outside of the region it's Loo-ee-vil.
The northern European country of Suomi is called Finland in English. How did they come up with that?
shareWhat about Costa Rica??? I've never heard a Costa Rican say Coasta Rica, yet I hear it from Americans and Canadians all the time.