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Are you one of the "WOKE" or a "Gammon???" Is "APPLE EATER" a better word???


https://www.quora.com/What-does-woke-mean-in-politics

Updated February 22, 2021 · Author has 352 answers and 161.8K answer views

What does “woke” mean?[/b]

I think most answers miss the point in being too linguistic in the explanation. “Woke” has become an insult, but only used within certain circles. The nature of those circles is where understanding and explanation needs to be focussed.

It is reality that people who are “woke”, or awakened, are those with superior intelligence, education, and ability to reason, to arrive at reasonable conclusions about the nature of our world, based on established facts. One thing is certain that being more able and intelligent than the herd does not generally lead to much popularity - no-one likes a “smart-ass”.

People with less intelligence and awareness often tend to feel inferior in their presence, and therefore resentful, or bored by what they talk about. Ultra-smart people often find small-talk meaningless and boring, so it cuts both ways.

In the UK we have a group of people, colloquially, referred to as “Gammon”. These people seem somewhat over-weight, middle-aged, and have florid complexions somewhat resembling the appearance of a piece of gammon, (a type of processed pig meat). They are not well-educated or intelligent, and to be true to the type, must hold extremist right-wing views,
as devotees of Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, and similar unsavoury folk.

Anyone who expresses any kind of rational, reasoned view, based on facts, which is not in line with their irrational, and unreasonable right-wing view, is dismissed by them as being “woke”, meaning that they are afflicted by the curse of thinking about things, “too much”, and using rational arguments, and expressing reasonable views, which are just plain dumb, and misguided to these folk.


It sounds like what's referred to as being a "GAMMON" in the UK would probably also be what's called a "RED NECK" here in the USA???
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Redneck - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

>>Redneck is a derogatory term chiefly, but not exclusively, applied to white Americans perceived to be crass and unsophisticated, closely associated with rural whites of the Southern United States. Its usage is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Texas, Georgia, and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks), and white trash


In Britain the Cambridge Dictionary definition states: "a poor, white person without education, esp. one living in the countryside in the southern US, who is believed to have prejudiced ideas and beliefs.


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Do the complexions of GAMMONS get the same way as that of a RED NECK from them also working outside in the SUN??? Because the necks of "RED NECKS" also use to get that way from them working outside in a T Shirt that leaves a REDNESS to their complexions and around their neck areas from the neck up.

It's also interesting how people on BOTH SIDES of the BIG POND also try to PIGEON HOLE their populations into being members of either one group of the other one without considering how one may not fit into either category.

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"Anyone who expresses any kind of rational, reasoned view, based on facts, which is not in line with their irrational, and unreasonable right-wing view, is dismissed by them as being “woke”,"

Lol, now that's a fine example of hypocrisy by the author!

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Don't waste your time Stratego, this is more bait from the usual suspects

Let's play games and chat about music and movies😘

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Return of the bot 🤖

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Once again the…except Politics is ignored 🙄

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There are several posters who do this, it's very obvious baiting nonsense

We need new blood, five more Spacecomedy or Anubis type posters and we'll be golden for another few years

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Agreed, just stick it on the Politics board.

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I'm gonna go look for a Eurovision song for your thread!🇪🇺

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Binga-Banga-Boom from Italy?

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Lol, I was actually just thinking how pretentious Italy's acts have always been, but I haven't kept up the past 15 years. You made that one up, right???

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Lol, yes I did, but I bet if you looked at a list of all the songs entered since the beginning, there’d be a song with a similar title.

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Lulu kind of comes close with Boom Bang-a-Bang.

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I’m sure there’s a whole Monty Python sketch based on this

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PLEASE don't!
You've already subjected everyone to K-Pop and Bollywood...Two war crimes are enough!

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Just take a listen, it's really not bad!

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Once again the…except Politics is ignored 🙄

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Oh for the love of God please make it stop!

Enough of this discussion. Please.

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It is reality that people who are “woke”, or awakened, are those with superior intelligence, education, and ability to reason, to arrive at reasonable conclusions about the nature of our world, based on established facts.

It is reality that you are an idiot and that is an established fact.


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Either or thinking is quite historical. "It's either us or them" people prefer to think in black and white rather than in the multitude of colours in the spectrum. "Liberal" and "conservative" don't really have a meaning anymore, people just naturally lump themselves as one or the other so they can harp on people who aren't in the group they decided to call themselves.

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Here's another interesting message that's posted in the link found in the OP:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-woke-mean-in-politics

Nelson McKeeby, Worshiper at Religious Society of Friends (1966-present)

Answered 9 months ago ·

Originally Answered: What does “woke” mean?

The term being “woke” has a long history, but it is a term for a Christian believer who follows the core tenants of Jesus Christ’s teaching (it is not required that the later, church organizing beliefs be part of the personal creed but not forbidden) who applies the teaching of Christ to his daily life, generally by embracing objective thinking, clear understanding of truth, and a willingness to work against tyranny against the fellow man. A “woke” person is part of the solution, using the love of God, seeking a better world.

Of all the words the far right hate most, God is one of them. They flock to religions that use the word Christianity but erase Jesus to hide from God. They embrace the opposite of each of the teachings of Jesus while claiming them as God-like behavior. In fact, you can see it in the language of the far right where a beautiful woman is “nasty.” Where a heroic person (McCain and Duckworth) are cowards. Where a soft hand and open heart is evil, while a closed heart, closed mind, and balled fist is good.

Being woke is to tell truth to a person who has hardened their heart. Let them see that Jesus still lives and exists. Like tough love given to an addict, a woke person must be ready to turn their back on evil, but the day they hit bottom and find the Devil’s open arms, be ready to stand by them and return them to God.

A woke person knows God operates by truths. Science is truth. The words Jesus gave us to understand love is truth. Bigotry, racism, misogyny, all of these are not truth.


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LOL! Exactly. One side will claim they're "woke to the ways of science" while the other claims they're "woke to the ways of God." I've often seen woke used as an insult when referring to people who are "woke" to the 5G conspiracy (that it is going to kill us all) or how "woke" Hollywood is now.

I do have to laugh at the second paragraph of that though, if one actually followed Jesus Christ's core teachings, forgiveness and harboring no malice to others is critical. You pray that the lord will bless the blind with light, but you don't rampage on about how wrong the blind are for not following your way.

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I do have to laugh at the second paragraph of that though, if one actually followed Jesus Christ's core teachings, forgiveness and harboring no malice to others is critical.


The first and fourth paragraphs seem to indicate the CORE TENANTS would be:

PARAGRAPH ONE:

>>embracing objective thinking, clear understanding of truth, and a willingness to work against tyranny against the fellow man.

PARAGRAPH 4:

>>A woke person knows God operates by truths. Science is truth. The words Jesus gave us to understand love is truth. Bigotry, racism, misogyny, all of these are not truth.


So whenever someone displays signs of "Bigotry, racism, misogyny" wouldn't that also indicate they are NOT someone who "follows the core tenants" of what Jesus tried to teach???

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