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Directors that no longer consistently make good movies.


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Steven Soderbergh
Oliver Stone

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Spielberg.

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I think he's capable of doing one, but the quality of his films have dropped.

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I think he's just surrounded by worshippers and ass-kissers. Nobody is giving him honest input when he does things that are old-fashioned or not trendy anymore.

Ready Player One for example, spent a long long time to make expositions about the game. While people nowadays already understand the concepts presented there. The movie took too long to explain anything, maybe because Spielberg himself is not very familiar with videogaming so he thought people might not understand. Honestly, it feels like I'm watching TRON in 1982.

He's just so out of touch with how young people percieve technology and storytelling. His techniques are old, his style is old, and he doesn't innovate anymore. The BFG looks like it was made in 1994 proudly flexing CGI and special effects that everyone and their grandmother can make in their potato PC. Kids watched Pixar movies since they were babies, The BFG is so boring to them. It offers nothing new.

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Ready Player One was just okay. I was really disappointed with the effects. Especially how it takes place in the future, no videogame should look that bad.

BFG was mediocre. There was a time Spielberg made fun kids movies.

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Ikr. After all the overly long expositions the actual videogame is underwhelming. It only shows how Spielberg's vision of futuristic videogame is basically stuck in the 80s or 90s at best. He probably would be blown away if he sees PS3 graphics.

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I think the problem with Spielberg is more of a political one. I'm serious.

Most of old Spielberg movies had a clear political view. With a few exceptions (like Schindler's List), that view was subtle, nothing like the Our Holy Wokeness Pushed Down Your Throat in modern movies. But subtle or not, it's still there.

It's the traditional east-coast liberal view. You can find the same view in Roddenberry, in early Lucas movies, or in Coppola ones. Again, the political view is often subtle and doesn't replace good storytelling, but complements it. The same could be said about other great directors, like John Ford or Hitchcock.

Last Spielberg's movies, however, they seem to lack a voice. There isn't a clear point of view anymore. This classic liberal view has become taboo in our times, and I don't see Spielberg comfortable with the new Wokeness Diversity-Ackbar that replaced it. I think Spielberg's movies are suffering of him not having a clear view.

Some creators need to find a voice before they reach their creative peak. Spielberg found his voice very quickly back in the 80s, but he seems to have lost it, he doesn't know what he wants to say through his movies anymore...

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Martin Scorsese. He is extremely hit or miss.

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I thought The Wolf of Wall Street was really good. But The Irishman on the other hand...no.

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I think he's still capable of doing a great one.

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What’s wrong with Darren bro?

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Have you seen "Mother!" and "Noah"?

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Sure did! Mother!'s build up is a bit long but the payoff is so worth it.

Noah is all fine by me. Not great, but good.

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I hated both films. I didn't like Black Swan either.

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Well he's my favorite director and I enjoyed each of his film and requiem for a dream has been my favorite movie for the past 15 years.

Black Swan is great too.

Who's your favorite director? (so I can pick on him ;p)

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Maybe Paul Thomas Anderson. I like Kubrick too.

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Can’t say a single word about Stanley Kubrick but PTA made one of my favourite movies, two movies I don’t like and I’m yet to see his first movie and his last movie. I enjoy his others.

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His first movie is his worst. It's good, but by far his worst.

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Tarantino.

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I'm not gonna lie, I was going to put him but didn't want to get backlash.

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It's true, though. And everybody knows deep down inside.

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I feel like all he does is keep upping the ante on violence and swearing. He makes big budget pulp films, I know that is his goal but I have never seen the appeal. Still haven't managed to get through Pulp Fiction.

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I think his career took a different turn from The Inglorious Bastards. But I personally really enjoyed it. In fact, it's one of my favorite films of his. Opinions vary. I also really enjoyed Django Unchained and his recent film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. All great films. But I really, really didn't like The Hateful Eight. By far my least favorite Tarantino film. I'll never watch it again. Terrible.

But what I'm saying is, I can see how some people may dislike his newer films. His style changed after Death Proof. But I personally still think he's a great director.

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Death Proof is my favorite and after that I started to enjoy his films less and less, hitting rock bottom at Hateful Eight. I have to say I think he’s back with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood though.

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The Hateful Eight was a dreadful watch.

But I agree, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood seems like a comeback. It was a pleasant surprise.

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Good one.

Except maybe you could say he’s still capable of making a “Tarantino” movie. Still as inspired as his recent work but getting tired. Not exploring any new territory

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John Carpenter

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Good one.

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Eli Roth

I really enjoyed Cabin Fever, Hostel 1 & 2. But all of his films after that have been pretty bad.

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There are movies I didn't even know he did.

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Peter Jackson.

Hollywood gave up on him after the disastrous "Hobbit" trilogy, and the middling but extremely expensive "Mortal Engines". I can't say I blame them.

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they all seem to taper off as they get older.

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That's what Tarantino said. That's why he's limiting himself to 10 movies.

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this happens with most artists it seems. especially writers.

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