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Covid question...


Many people are recommending shutting down again as the cases are surging. Masks are being required by law in many places now.

My question is how does any of this help until a vaccine is found? What if a vaccine is 20 years away? Seems like it's inevitable we will be living with this for a while, and imo we need to live our lives normally. Herd immunity seems like the only good solution, as a vaccine isn't guranteed to be here anytime soon.

Also, if the govt forces a business to close that business should be fully compensated for wages, lost sales, etc.

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There will be a time when we'll have to concede opening everything up, but I think there will be strict measurements implemented when it happens. Like always wearing gloves and masks.

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We still don't know the long term effects of Covid-19...

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I'm not sure what that has to do with opening up now. While there may or may not be long term negative impacts from having C19, we probably won't know that for a long time. Guess we will have to cross that bridge if and when we come to it.

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Right now the county I live in is experiencing a substantial increase in cases but the death rate has dramatically dropped.

By now most of the negative impacts from Memorial Day/Father's Day/protests should be showing up, but hospitalizations and deaths are down.

We will have a much better idea of what these spikes really mean in another 2-3 weeks. Hopefully, the death rate will continue to decrease which would be really good news.

And to answer your question - the government shouldn't be closing any more businesses.

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If the govt mandates a business close they need to make it right with the company.
I just don't think shutting down, reopening, shutting down, reopening is a sustainable solution.

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My advice is start eating more green onions, leek and kardamom spiced food basically copy the cuisine of quatar and Singapore because they have a really low mortality rate from cov2. Another advice is use quercetin pills once a day, it is a food supplement and a molecule found in those spices. If you get a heavy case of cov2 ask for estrogen pills. It would work better as an inhaler, estrogen solution inhaler but that is not practice currently. I am a bioengineer so I am giving you some solid advice, I ran some simulations to get this data and am working to make it public. You welcome.

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Thanks, but that wasn't really my question.

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Well the economy won't reopen because everyone is scared of getting the virus. Once the method for curing the virus is common knowledge the economy will reopen too.
The method is estrogen and estrogen related molecules like quercetin.

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Yes. Wearing masks, staying 6+ feet apart in public, and avoiding gatherings will help contain the spread. This will be the new normal until there are proven and accessible treatments. We also need to get affordable home test kits. We can't afford to overburden the hospitals right now. Beds are being rationed. There is already a severe nursing shortage. People with major injuries or non-covid illness who need treatment have to many risks to consider. High-risk individuals deserve to have a chance to survive, especially when many healthcare workers are in this category (including my dad).

If everyone follows the CDC guidelines, there will be no reason to close buildings again. If a high percentage of the workforce dies, the economy will collapse totally. We can recover lost money, we can't recover the dead.




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If the economy totally collapses, the already dead will be the lucky ones.

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Yeap, I've seen a few videos and interviews to medical experts holding that point: if the vaccine is several years away (and that's the most likely scenario), the quarantine just delaying herd immunity. At the end of the day, countries will have to pass the pandemic sooner or later, and the quarantine will destroy the economy with no real benefit.

Youtube have been deleting those videos.

Of course, some control should be done to prevent health system from collapsing, but right now it seems that the goal is fully stopping the virus, which is a mistake. Summer is the best moment to get herd immunity, since it's much easier to control the virus. Once the summer ends and without herd immunity, cries will start again.

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You are making sense.

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Face coverings, hand hygiene, and social distancing are proven to greatly reduce the spread of coronavirus. If we can slow the spread of the virus, we can prevent huge numbers of people getting sick at a time when there's no effective treatment and no vaccine, and when hospitals in some region are already being overwhelmed. If everyone just goes about their business and spreads the virus willy-nilly, we will see mass deaths of people who can't get treated because no hopsital can accept them. You want that?

State, local, and federal governments in the US cannot or will not mandate that everyone actually socially distance, clean their hands, and cover their damn faces, so it's no become a question of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. So cover your face when you leave the house, clean your hands every time you touch something that other people will touch, and stay six feet or more away from people you don't actually live with. I fucking mean it.

PS: Some form of vaccine may be months away or even weeks, not years.

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