Hope you are staying safe if you live where the protests are.
Protesting and making yourself heard is a great thing imo, but all the violence that erupts is so couterproductive and damaging.
Hope the officer who is charged gets convicted for once. Apparently his wife has filed for divorce.
Hope the officer who is charged gets convicted for once.
It's on video. I'm all for innocent until proven guilty, but you can see the guy actually not resisting or fighting, pleading for his life while an officer has his knee on his neck cutting off his breathing.
sharepleading for his life while an officer has his knee on his neck cutting off his breathing
Interesting. The force used still looks excessive to me for someone who was not violent and was letting the officers know there was a problem with his health. He was at worst being uncooperative, but his fall was quite possibly health related. After the suspect falls to the ground, the officer keeps his knee on his neck for nearly nine minutes, no doubt exacerbating the suspect's problems. By the time they check the suspect, he has no pulse.
The officer is hardly blameless, even if the autopsy doctor's conclusion holds up. It'll be difficult to get a murder conviction or maybe even manslaughter though.
It's even more complicated. They knew each other and had worked together
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/29/minneapolis-death-george-floyd-protests-escalate-police-precinct-fire/5279830002/
"Floyd and Chauvin knew each other before the fatal encounter - they worked together at a bar, a city official and a bar owner said"
This seems more like an excessive use of force, probably because of a personal grudge. If that was the case and there was a grudge between them, it wouldn't have even been race related, but a conflict between two guys where one of them would have abused his badge.
Well, now blacks already killed a white cop, now it's race related.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-protective-service-officer-killed-oakland-shooting
Of course, even if it really was cold blooded murder the crime doesn't justify taking another innocent's life. Or looting and destroying local businesses, for that matter.
This is good information and does change the perspective somewhat. The cop had a history of complaints against him. It would be interesting to see if that history seemed to indicate a pattern against blacks.
shareYou realize that killing someone by physically exacerbating their health conditions can still be considered homicide. How would you like it if someone pinned your grandma to the floor and she died as a result?
shareI can only imagine how many people are saying, "good. Now you know how black people feel when they are unjustly killed by white supremacist cops who are part of the system to bring us down."
shareSo do they select people on their white supremacist beliefs? Do you have to fill in a questionnaire or something? Or do they turn them into white supremacists at the police academy? And how about black cops? Are they also white supremacists out to get their fellow black man? I mean, how does this work?
shareI remember when Eric Garner died (the first "I can't breathe" guy) people were calling cops a bunch of racist white supremacists. There was all this discussion about racism. 6 cops got charged and 3 of them weren't white. Suddenly it not longer became about racist cops, but about the power they had. People like to just say stuff, and when they're proven wrong, they change the narrative. Maybe it is racism, but maybe it isn't. We may never know. But at least wait until facts come out and don't just make assumption based on a video.
shareThat´s not how the MSM operates. They are foaming at the mouth to report any white on black crime.
shareI remember Denzel was doing an interview and he said that journalists don't tell the news to be right, they just want to be first.
shareOne of those facts that has emerged is that, among the three other cops involved, one was black, one latino, and the last one, asian. That's some surprising and interesting diversity on display.
shareI'm sure they were all brainwashed into becoming white supremacists...
shareYou mean something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ
shareMore will be killed tonight (hope not)
shareMeanwhile, a certain person continues to stoke the flames with his recent tweets. I've lived in a city with two back-to-back racist mayors who stoked division. Things finally cooled down when a new unifying mayor took office.
shareShouldn't this thread be on the politics forum?
shareThis is civil and criminal, not political. Just stating that fighting will harm more than it helps.
It's the mob effect, usually placid people get caught up in the moment and do things they may not usually do, thereby either injuring or killing people then getting convicted of that offence and spending a long time behind bars.
None of it helps change society, it just wrecks lives.
This is absolutely political. Law itself is political, law enforcement is political, social and institutional injustice is political, as is resistance to that injustice, and condemnation of such resistance. This whole thread is full to bursting with political commentary, about protests and racism and police brutality. That's all political.
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