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Do you feel like the world is falling apart at the seams?

posted 5 years ago by MovieBuff224 (5053)
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Ever since 9/11 I feel like society has been on a steady decline. People have become more and more unstable and guarded. No one trusts anyone anymore, human interaction has changed drastically and the arrival of smartphones along with the Great Recession further exacerbated these issues.

Everything is so in your face now, all of the cards are on the table. People are more divided than ever, with racial and political tensions in some ways the worst they’ve ever been relative to the progress we’ve made.

People’s spirits have been broken, the world lives one day at a time. Dreams of the future are less and less relevant with the uncertainty and fear lingering in the air in the fallout of the events that have transpired over the last 20 years.

And when things couldn’t possibly seem any more grim, a global pandemic hits completely sending us off the rails. Any remaining security or stability people felt has been shattered.

I think the economy and health of the world will recover long before our spirits. The mental impact of this final blow to the morale of the human race will be felt for generations to come, and will probably change the world forever.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

" Is this guy negative or what !? " - George W Bush

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

Lol and here I thought I was deviating from my typical complaint threads

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

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[–] Mrmojo4700 (21724) 5 years ago

Hmmmm

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

What happened in 1968?

[–] CKid (3842) 5 years ago

Among other things, in 1968 ...

The Tet Offensive occurs in South Vietnam
Martin Luther King, Jr. is assassinated
Robert F. Kennedy is assassinated after winning the California Democratic Primary
750,000 Warsaw Pact troops along with 6,500 tanks and 800 aircraft invade Czechoslovakia, ending the "Prague Spring" of political liberalization
Police and protesters violently clash outside the Democratic National Convention in Chicago

Basically, it was a pretty shitty year where it seemed that the only bright spot was when Apollo 8 orbited the moon at Christmas time.

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

I thought the innocence ended when JFK was assasinated.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

France almost fell to a bunch of student communists

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

The dream was over.

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 5 years ago

The greatest film of all time premiered!

😎

[–] ShogunofYonkers (78628) 5 years ago

It's the end of the world
As we know it
And I feel fine...

Seriously, the current state of affairs will end sooner or later and we will carry on👍

[–] dmac8 (5050) 5 years ago

not much of a history buff, huh?

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

I realize we’ve weathered much worse and this is a relatively peaceful and safe time to be alive, I’m referring more to society and how people interact. That will be our ultimate undoing, not temporary conflicts.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

" That is not the question. The question is..." - Maggie Thatcher

The question is why in the past was America able to unite, pull together and come through a crisis whereas there is disunity, division and paralysis now ? The answer is that America has been weakened by globalisation and multi-culturalism. And the poisonous "whatever it takes to win an election" politics isn't helping either.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Certain people benefit from a divided country. Why is a president inciting extremists with guns to threaten legislators and governors?

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

" Chaos is a ladder " - Lord Petyr Baelish (RIP)

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Why is a president inciting extremists with guns to threaten legislators and governors?

Because the president is a fucking tool.

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

How exactly has America been weakened by globalization and multi-culturalism?

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

A country is held together by its culture and collective ethos. Globalisation and multi-culturalism weaken both of those attributes by a process of dilution.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Globalization made America the richest in the world. American culture is popular around the world.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Shallow thinking is so tedious. Slavery made a lot of people filthy rich. Being filthy rich is popular around the world.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

False equivalence

Your argument was globalization made the U.S. weak when it clearly has made the U.S. the strongest and richest country in the world.

The world can't get enough of American culture: food, movies, music. dialect, history, books, fashion, product, sports, celebrity, democracy, history, etc.

If you hate multiculturalism then you hate rock music, pizza, hot dogs, Chinese food, tacos, spaghetti, surfing, potato chips, and apple products.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

False equivalence

Your false equivalence is a false equivalence. I was drawing an analogy not an equivalence.

Your argument was globalization made the U.S. weak when it clearly has made the U.S. the strongest and richest country in the world.

If globalisation and multi-culturalism is what has made America great and rich why is it in decline ?

The world can't get enough of American culture: food, movies, music. dialect, history, books, fashion, product, sports, celebrity, democracy, history, etc.

Fast food, blockbuster movies, pop music and sport are not culture, just the opposite in fact.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

"If globalisation and multi-culturalism is what has made America great and rich why is it in decline ?"

The country as a whole isn't in decline. It's still the most powerful, richest, influential and strongest in the world. It's not as respected with bozo as leader though.

You're likely confusing your personal poor finances in decline with those of the U.S. as a whole.

Culture is art and includes movies, literature, cuisine, music, paintings, language, couture, etc.

*Culture is music. African-Americans created rock, jazz, rap, spirituals, R&B, and gospel.
*Culture is cuisine. Much of it came from immigrants or was native to this country. I wasn't talking about McDs but yes, that's an export, too.
*Culture is sports. For instance, culturally Americans aren't into soccer or cricket. Basketball was invented in the U.S. and is popular in many countries now.
*Culture is movies. They broadcast American values, humor, actors, music, stories, history and language.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

It's not the world. The U.S. is falling apart. Voting matters.

[–] Kj1oceanlust (1528) 5 years ago

Your wrong.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Specify.

[–] Kj1oceanlust (1528) 5 years ago

Then I would be discussing politics lol.

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[–] degree7 (821) 5 years ago

Jeez, you’re acting like we’re living in a nuclear holocaust or something. People went through much worse than this 80-100 years ago. All we’re dealing with now is a little Virus that got blown out of hand by the media.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Even Trump and Fox stopped promoting that conspiracy theory.

[–] degree7 (821) 5 years ago

3 million people died from pneumonia last year, where’s your outrage?

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

50,000 people in the U.S., not 3 million.

If the handling of this virus was handled properly, then the economy wouldn't be shutdown and 83,000k dead.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf

[–] degree7 (821) 5 years ago

Still not even a top 5 leading cause of death. You have a higher chance of dying in an accident.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

"COVID-19 is 3rd leading cause of death
Updated death projections suggest COVID-19 is the third leading cause of death in the U.S., behind cancer and heart disease, according to an analysis from STAT."
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/covid-19-is-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-stat-analysis-suggests.html

You're very blase about Americans dying. If your child or parent died from this virus, would you care? Each of the 89,932 was a human life with a family and friends. Not just a cold stat.

[–] degree7 (821) 5 years ago

I find that link a little suspect considering that the CDC numbers for stroke deaths in 2017 were almost 3x that number. Unless they’re not counting all vascular diseases.

I just think shutting down the entire country and plunging everyone into a new economic recession had ulterior motives. Especially when the data provided by Neil Ferguson was problematic to begin with. But as we can see, the richest 1% are getting even richer and Corporations are buying up mom and pop shops on Main Street that have defaulted.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

CDC link for 2017 stats?

[–] sut6432 (2928) 5 years ago

Same goes for cancer, heart disease, car accidents, suicide, or any other cause of death. Each is a human life with family and friends. Not just a cold stat.

The only difference? One is a political issue right now and the others aren’t. And you’re constantly using COVID to push your politics, and I don’t believe for a second you give a rat’s ass about anyone who’s died of COVID-19. Hell, you would cheer about and laugh at any conservatives who died of COVID-19, so spare me.

Why don’t you crawl back under your rock back at the politics message board.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

You're the one who believes 80,000+ dead Americans don't count because people die from other things.
These people didn't need to die! The Pandemic Playbook isn't being followed.

I'm on topic. The world isn't falling apart. Just the U.S..

Stop trolling!

[–] sut6432 (2928) 5 years ago

Yeah, because you have the pandemic playbook? Give me a freaking break. This hasn’t happened in over 100 years.

So just the US is falling apart? Are you brain dead? The entire goddamn world was hit by this! You’re the biggest tool in the universe, and you’re the one exploiting the deaths of 80,000 people.

And for your information, just because someone says something you don’t like or disagree with, doesn’t mean they are a troll.

I just have to stop biting on your moronic posts. It gets harder and harder with all of the ridiculous things you say, but I’m done now, because as I’ve said many times before, you aren’t worth the aggravation.

Have a great day, and have fun continuing to exploit American deaths.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

"This hasn’t happened in over 100 years."

Two points:

1. Because recent past administrations have been able to successfully prevent viral threats from becoming pandemics by acting quickly. The exception was the present one.

2. Each year, the intelligence community releases the Worldwide Threat Assessment—a distillation of worrisome global trends, risks, problem spots and emerging perils. They were well aware of a pandemic threat!

"you have the pandemic playbook?"

The Pandemic Playbook was developed by U.S. National Security Agencies to prevent this crisis.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf

"The entire goddamn world was hit by this!'
The U.S. is the most powerful country in the world which is handling this crisis like a small Banana Republic.

Other Western countries have strong national leadership coordinating their recovery.

"blah, blah ... doesn’t mean they are a troll."

Your personal insults and provocative language are trolling.