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"Who's Cary Grant?"

posted 5 years ago by Catbookss (13664)
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Recently I was at a dog park and got into a nice conversation with another dog owner. I told her that a few people have commented that my dog is "The Cary Grant of dogs." (He is. He's extremely social with both people and other dogs, friendly, charismatic, very good looking, and can be funny.)

The woman was maybe in her mid 20s, intelligent, and to my surprise didn't know who Cary Grant was.

It surprised me because I grew up knowing the names of famous actors from eras before I was around. Is this a thing, or was this more of a one-off?

Maybe she's not into movies 🤷‍♀️

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Most 20 somethings don't watch older movies. This don't surprise me at all.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

It doesn't surprise you that PaladinNJ's wife didn't know who John Wayne was either?

Some stars become cultural icons and are known by multi generations, even if the newer generations have never seen their movies. I put both Cary Grant and John Wayne in that category, along with Marilyn Monroe and James Dean, and quite a few others.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I guess she was born in 1978. Depends on her parents and what she watched as a kid. I was exposed to Wayne, Bogart and Cooper through my father.

My wife didn't know anything about the Beatles when I met her. She does now.

[–] PaladinNJ (21781) 5 years ago

As I posted above, I should clarify. This happened about twenty five years ago. She was 18 or 19 at the time.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

No offence meant to your wife 😊

[–] PaladinNJ (21781) 5 years ago

None taken.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

👍 At 18 or 19 there are still so many things to hear about. It's a funny age, because you *feel* like an adult.

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

Your British genes are are showing...”offence” instead of offense. Just razzing ya! :-) 😉

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

More now than ever, since I got this new computer with mandatory spell check 😐. I changed it to Brit because often I use that spelling, and use certain phrases, but not on all words! I've given up fighting it. Too much trouble.

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

The spell checker on my Moto 6 Android phone drives me up the wall! It has a mind of its own and will not permit me to text certain spellings! Some of the texts are nonsense if I don’t catch it before sending. 😡

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

They are too often maddening, not helpful. My phone spellcheck is the same -- won't let me text certain spellings, and it keeps insisting my dog's name is Mojo, LOL!

[–] Moonglum9 (11340) 5 years ago

Maybe that's what's wrong with my phone! I'm always getting these weird changes when I type something. Like whenever I type stairs, my phone changes it to apple and pears. And if I type something like "I had to stand in line for the bathroom", my phone spits out "I had to queue for the loo". And when I've typed, "I don't feel so well", I get "Egads! I'm all tummely-fum-agoogled, guvnah!"

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

I believe it’s a generational thing. Back in the ‘40’s,‘50’s and ‘60’s we didn’t have as many “stars” as there are today. People lived, ate and slept “Hollywood”. We knew ALL the names on the “silver” screen...not so today. There are too many.

The studios back then kept a tight rein on their money makers. Walt Disney wouldn’t permit Annette (every guy’s dream gal) to wear a 2 piece swim suit!

My mom and aunts bought the Hollywood magazines to try to find out the latest gossip. And, believe me there was a lot of gossip. One I recall, Lana Turner, known as the “Sweater Girl”, killed her boyfriend, but her teen-age daughter took the blame. Lana starred in the original “The Postman Always Rings Twice”. The remake was trash!

We didn’t have a tv until the mid ‘50’s. All we had were the movies. We didn’t have the electronics and internet. All we had were a phone (if we were lucky) and a pen. :-)

The year rated to have had the best movies was 1939! For you newbies out there try viewing some of the older films...especially film noir. “Film noir is a cinematic term used primarily to describe stylish Hollywood crime dramas, particularly those that emphasize cynical attitudes and sexual motivations. The 1940s and 1950s are generally regarded as the "classic period" of American film noir.”

We had it all, but the sexual mores were different. It wasn’t shoved in our faces. Imagination is a wonderful thing. We didn’t need Brokeback Mountain or 50 Shades of Gray which I deem trash.

[–] AndyKing1967 (39852) 5 years ago

My friend’s wife doesn’t know who Charles Darwin is. I mean, come on!

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

This is MADNESS! Where will it all end?

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

Well, Cat, when society and schools are so busy with social engineering I’m not surprised. Civics isn’t taught. This is the reason why we bring in qualified people from other countries to do the brain work. We don’t produce enough eggheads!

It is MADNESS!!

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

Ksp, social engineering has been a thing since even long before biblical days. It probably goes back to prehistory!

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

On this I disagree. I think you know of what I speak. We did not have social engineering in school. I can list my class schedule if need be.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

Definition: "the use of centralized planning in an attempt to manage social change and regulate the future development and behavior of a society."

This has been happening forever, Ksp.

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

“regulate the future development and behavior of a society." Geez! That scares me!

“regulate the behavior of a society”? Now it’s not only our behavior...it’s our thinking, our thoughts! George Orwell’s words came late, but they have arrived.

Again, we did not have it in school. We did not have it on tv. We did not have it on the news until Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Vietnam, the hippies, the drug culture, etc. In other words...the ‘60’s brought social engineering. “Helter Skelter” The debauchery of Woodstock. To be frank I’m relieved I don’t have too many more years left on this earth. The inmates are running the asylum.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

It was always in school, on TV, radio, books, back to papyrus scrolls. It's part of the thread of society and human nature. Every government and religion that's ever existed has used centralized planning in an attempt to manage social change and regulate the future development and behavior of a society.

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

How about Social Engineering to indoctrinate you into the conceptual mores of the majority? Thanks...but no thanks!

I’m not making myself clear. We weren’t told we *had* to accept ideas and lifestyles of others. There was no such thing as a hate crime which is punishment for thought. If a pos murders another person because of differences it doesn’t matter...the victim is still dead, regardless of the reason. Throw the maximum at the pos! We more or less lived and let lived.

I went to a northern high school for my freshman year. It was located in a highly concentrated Jewish area. There were days the Jewish students had excused absences for religious purposes. We didn’t scream “Unfair! Goes against the Church & State doctrine!” Which btw is a fallacy. We just accepted it and kept to our studies. No harm, no foul!

But, nowadays if a guy feels like a female he can use the women’s facilities! Or a women’s dressing room! Good Grief! Social Engineering to accept the mores of others.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

"How about Social Engineering to indoctrinate you into the conceptual mores of the majority? Thanks...but no thanks!"

That's exactly what all social engineering has always done.

You're making yourself clear, we just don't agree. This can't come as a shock to you, Ksp. Personally, I avoid political comments with you because I know we're not going to agree and it's pointless.

[–] kspkap (13629) 5 years ago

This is political? I’m not looking on it as such. I thought we were discussing (notice I didn’t write debating) mores changed by social engineering...sometimes good...sometimes bad. IMO, more often than not. 😬

[–] LeWildPlatypus (772) 5 years ago

That will sound strange to us, I'm in my mid 20's and I've heard of most famous Hollywood actors from the golden age of cinema. I often wonder if it's just me, but I'm always trying to get to grips with the fact that the internet doesn't reflect the outside world.

Anyone I talk to on the internet will know pretty much anything I do and more, but on the outside I find myself in a bit of a pickle when it comes to referencing memes, actors, culture. I find it best to not reference things, especially films as I risk having an awkward encounter.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

👏

🤷‍♀️ I thought most people were like you and knew the big names. Maybe not seen the films or know more obscure actors.

It's fun when you get that blank "huh?" look 😳

[–] LeWildPlatypus (772) 5 years ago

Oh yeah, those 3 seconds of silence followed by a confused "huh?" look are always the longest 3 seconds and become the awkward memories that plague our thoughts.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

😁 Yes, they are. It's a no win situation.

[–] johnmarti59 (2356) 5 years ago

It's funny how young people today don't know anything.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 5 years ago

Oh, they know plenty. Just different things.

[–] johnmarti59 (2356) 5 years ago

That's right.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Most people don't know anything outside of their own generation or immediate culture.