Do you think it’s unusual how many people believe in god? - General Discussion Discussion

[–] Eric56 (4580) 5 years ago

What grinds my gears is people who are hardcore Christians, yet they vote in right-wing politicians who are anti-immigration and vote against the interests of the middle-lower
economic class. I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't say "Let's turn these people away" or "Let's screw the poor/the needy". So much hypocrisy amongst religious folks; it's sickening.

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Because Christianity the religion is about money and political power, it has nothing to do with Jesus. The religion teaches people to accept the irrational as rational and to doubt science which makes people easier to manipulate.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

I dont agree with the way there is a belief system that seeks to vilify and blame God and the Bible for what should be attributed to the people who practice Christianity in the way it is not meant to be practiced.
If someone makes a tool and a set of instructions as to how that tool is to be used, then it is the people who use the tool who are responsible for its use not the one who made the tool.
Its over simplified but I think you get my point.

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

I do, and that's what I'm doing, the religion is the people. You don't need religion to follow the teachings of Christ. The religion was created to serve man.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

SPot on

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[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

Religion is odd I agree, but I think people believe in a god and join a religion because it brings together a community of like minded people, sort of like joining a particular political party. I don't object to this. While I am an atheist I understand why people choose a religion.

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[–] BillHicksFan (10562) 5 years ago

Yes

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[–] Knish (1721) 5 years ago

I can't take people seriously who believe in a god that observes us and watches if we do right or wrong.

How can a normal person believe this? I would be sad about it if it weren't so damn funny.

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

Yeah mind boggling

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

Have you ever tried to understand or know God?

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[–] Knish (1721) 5 years ago

No, I don't try to understand and know the easter bunny either.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

What makes you equate God and the easter bunny?

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[–] Knish (1721) 5 years ago

Both imaginary.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

What proof do you have the God is imaginary?

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[–] Knish (1721) 5 years ago

Haha! It's funny how theists think. I don't need to proof god is imaginary, you need to proof he's real.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

Why do I need to prove that, surely you are trying to convince me too?

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14381) 5 years ago

No. Over 2 billion people on the planet follow some form of Christianity, with new people being Saved every day. In the US alone, 9 out of 10 people identify with some kind of religion, even if it isn't always Christianity.

There's something in the human psyche that makes us want to seek out answers to life's questions, find something bigger and more meaningful than just mere survival. Scientists tried to explain this using the "God gene" theory a decade ago, but that junk science fizzled out when they couldn't find any gene like that.

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

Why is a large population of people subscribing to something a ringing endorsement of its legitimacy? Most of the planet is disparate and uneducated. I’d say if anything the global majority’s adherence to some form of religion is a point against it.

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14381) 5 years ago

I already gave my answer to your question in the second paragraph.

I should also point out that statistically speaking, atheists and agnostics typically represent a minority in most populations of any country. Typically they roughly make up 20-30% of people in any population, and the majority within that group are white males ranging in age from 30-50 years old. Female atheists do exist, but are rarer within such the group.

Exceptions to this includes Scandinavia, North Korea, a large swathe of the Chinese population, and it was institutionalized in Soviet Russia for 80 years before the USSR fell.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

Not at all. I'm one of them. I'm a biology/geography teacher. I have a small relation to science but I still believe in God

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

So how do you transition from science to religion?

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14381) 5 years ago

God invented science. His children merely learned how to use it through trial and error in learning the wonders He created in this world.

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

I don’t even know what that means

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

It only make sense when you choose to believe that God exist and the Bible is the truth.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

I know many scientists who still believe in God. There are even "9 Scientific Facts about God". The problem is that atheists scream about "God is fiction" everywhere while religious scientists are more calm. No transition at all. I love both science & religion. Never had problems with these two things

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[–] chilone (17864) 5 years ago

Exactly!

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

There are also world renowned physicists who believe in werewolves. Doesn’t mean anything.

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Religion and science are not reconcilable. Science seeks to understand nature rationally. We ask questions and constantly challenge the answers. Religion begins with answers and is hostile toward anyone challenging them, and teaches people to accept the irrational as rational.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

"Religion begins with answers and is hostile toward anyone challenging them,"

Really? I'm a religios person but I've never wished someone to die just because he doesn't believe in God. Countless atheists did it to me. Most of the Bible events are scientifically proved, so.....

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

You are religious, not a religion, and I think you know the difference. As for most of the Bible being proved scientifically, that must be very recent, perhaps you have articles to share?

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

"You are religious, not a religion, and I think you know the difference."

Yes, that explains why atheists wish people death and insult religious people for their faith

Existence of Jesus Christ is a well-known fact. Atheist Stephen Hawking even noticed that. I don't hate to prove anything. There are countless articles about God or the Bible events. Just don't be lazy and search

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

You certainly have the hostility and persecution complex down pat. There is evidence for a religious leader, Christus, in a blurb by Tacitus, that is probably the New Testament Christ. But there is no evidence he was anything other than a man and no evidence he returned from the dead. You see, I have done the research. Now for the rest of the Bible... Back to you.

Edit, exactly as expected, an insult deleted but no evidence.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

https://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.
Gen 1: 2-4
2Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. 3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness.…

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

So either way, the universe suddenly sprang into existence, with or without a god.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

https:/
/www.robertharding.com/blog/2014/01/27/spirals-in-nature/
Spirals are patterns that occur naturally in plants and natural systems, including the weather. They were studied by mathematicians including Leonardo Fibonacci, who tried to understand order in nature. Spirals have also been the inspiration for architectural forms and ancient symbols.

Plants like this Aloe follow Fibonacci’s description of Phyllotaxis, a formula for the spiral growth patterns of leaves (age fotostock/Robert Harding)
What I love here is God's very scientific approach to how he made flora and fauna in nature

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Mathematics is the language of science, we use it to describe natural phenomena. It appears everywhere. You're applying it backwards as proof of God, like Cameron did with bananas, which are also products of science.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

Yes made by our Creator almighty.
The thing is do you have proof that He does not exist?

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Yes, I've already shown that God is irrelevant to creation or anything else.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

Not in a way that makes it irrefutable. Do you have more evidence?

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Do you? I don't need more.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

I also wonder if a person is an atheist then as an American ,do they not pledge allegiance ?

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

You're referring to the 1954 revision that added god? What are you suggesting exactly?

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

Well the pledge is one nation under God

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

It is since 1954. So once again, what are you suggesting?

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

I am wondering how an athiest would tackle the alliegiance. I am thinking when the under God part comes in they stay silent or they don't even stand.

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[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

We pledge allegiance to the United States of America.

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[–] themercdee (39) 5 years ago

I also direct you to these book as well
https://www.amazon.com/God-Experiment-Science-Prove-Existence/dp/1587680076

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[–] bohemianroxie (2478) 5 years ago

No, I understand how the fundamentalist can boggle the brain but so can believing in nothing. I try to respect either extreme as long as I am respected back.
I don't think anyone, neither science or religion, has all the answers and that we are probably meant to consider these things beyond what they can offer.

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[–] Kowalski (75523) 5 years ago

YES.YES I DO.

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