It seems to me that anytime one disagrees with a woman, or points out a flaw in her argument, she can simply accuse you of 'mansplaining', and 'voila!' she's 'won'.
It's genius really. I have to credit whichever woman coined the phrase thus automatically ensuring women will forever win arguments simply by dint of the gender they were born with.
This has nothing to do with your topic, but elsewhere I just used the term "Metrosexual." I believe it means a man who is very aware of his appearance and grooming. He's aware of current male styles. Yesterday I saw a bartender who has a curly waxed mustache. I would say that's metrosexual. Maybe I'll start a topic on it.
shareGo for it. I'll add my thoughts after you do.
shareBut in an attempt to address your topic, the best way to avoid mansplaining might be to be aware of not needlessly picking at a particular woman's argument. Some people do that, especially couples. One might always feel the need to comment on the other's thinking. And if a woman pulls that card, she's circumventing the situation, not being honest with the man. I can't see this happening very often.
shareI would never pick at a woman's argument because she's a woman, but neither do I think I should give a person a pass on that basis either.
When it comes to disagreements I tend to be 'gender-blind', so to speak, unless it's an issue in which a woman may have some particular insight, and even then, no two women have the same mindset, and one will find as many disagreements between women on topics like abortion and sexual violence as one might find between women and men.
If you truly respect someone, you can engage in a discussion without condescension. I like discussing things, and I don't mind sounding insightful. Like I said, I think this might occur more often with people who are close with one another. People who are stuck with each other often get on each others nerves.
shareI hope I am never condescending.
Actually, scratch that. I'm almost always condescending, but the thing is, I am equally as condescending to men as I am to women.
On Friday, my cab driver mansplained to me that people were not predisposed to heart disease because of genetics, but because women in families keep handing down unhealthy recipes, generation after generation. It's a proven fact!
Your cab driver sounds like an arse.
But there are plenty of instances where I think I'm entitled to disagree with a woman, in which her gender is entirely incidental, because ultimately a fool is a fool, irrespective of gender, race, nationality, religion, sexuality and social class.
I'm not clear on what 'mansplaining' is and will have to google that but what I think you encountered on Friday was a jackass😉
shareHe also gleefully granted me a 'blessed' day'. How do I explain DNA markers to someone like that?
He's doing the Lords work in his humble cab, saving lives, giving blessings.
How powerful and righteous he feels.
Ha!
The guy that clears the leaves out of my gutters says similar stuff,
he's a big fan of 'Jesus saves' and 'Bless you' and such...
It's weird
I happen to be Christian so I take no offense at all, I just wonder what his Jewish or Athiest costumers make of it
Probably gets ugly for Jimmy Gutters once in awhile:/
Uh oh! I say that all the time to people who have been pleasant. Jewish people would be OK to say it to as the word means “holy”. But, for the atheist, not; if you are aware of said fact. I once knew a woman who would shout to people at Pro-Life rallies “Repent!” I told her to “Stop! As the person may not be a Christian and s/he wouldn’t know what in the hell you meant!”
shareIt can all be so uncomfortable
I keep that stuff to myself and would prefer others to do the same
Well now, you have a blessed day! 😬😉
shareCthulhu Saves sister!
shareYou, dear Shoggie, have got me (and not in a good way🥰). Pray tell what or who is Cthulhu?
shareYou're not a horror fan, I know
But there was a writer about a hundred years ago named H.P. Lovecraft who took horror literature to a whole new level
I have most of his stories in my little library here at home
His horror stories have influenced the likes of King and Barker and a great many others in the fright biz...Lovecraft is a legend to horror fans
Cthulhu is his fantastical ancient god, risen from the waters to spread madness and death upon the Earth
I'm certain you'll never read them Glen but I assure you, Lovefraft's stories are fabulously written and very scary
To Shoggie,
Me not Glen, Kemo Sabe.
All that cleaning and laundry must have done tuckered you out!😴
“Dream a Little Dream of Me”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P4T3tMkjRig
You don't explain DNA markers to "someone like that". He already understands them far better than you ever will. He's heard both sides. It's you who has only heard one.
Heart disease is the number one cause of death, but it wasn't always that way. In fact it was rare right up through the middle of last century. It was rare until our diets started changing. Not our DNA. That didn't change. But it hasn't stopped scientists from pushing pills. Statins are the number one class of drugs, ahead of even both antidepressants and painkillers, and they fundamentally don't work.
https://biblelife.org/biblediet.htm
Satan is still working through the woman to destroy the family. Satan is still deceiving women about food and diet just as he did with Eve in the Garden of Eden. The wife has a lead role in the preparation of the meals for the family and in making major decisions about diet. Satan continues to lie to the woman with false information about food, diet, and health.share
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You're white knighting in a thread about mansplaining. All you did is prove that LauraGrace was lying. She does want a man to tell her what to think.
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I hate the term "mansplain" for two reasons: it doesn't rhyme with "explain", "sexplain" is much better and the second reason is that people use it for everything even when it has nothing to do with the person being a woman. I once corrected a woman on a a wrong fact, and immediately got accused of mansplaining. Like, you can't tell me that she's never been wrong and you can't correct her.
sharethis happened at a political debate in Canada a few years ago. The guy lost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqyNPYqwE0E
The guy was a dick.
shareHe also lost the election, and now we have another man who keeps mansplaining to her as well.
My thoughts on mansplaining is that there a couple of ways it happens. One is when a woman is talking and a man will interrupt and say something like "I think what she was trying to say is...." and then says the exact thing that the woman was saying. Now it is possible for anyone to do that to anyone, but it does seem to be something that happens to women in the corporate world.
The second, was pretty much the above video. Or in a case where a man is trying to explain something about the woman's body that he really doesn't understand like this https://www.scarymommy.com/mansplain-periods/
It's not that men cannot tell a woman that she's wrong. Of course they can. It's just how it's done. I think that that can be said for everyone.
Well, I've pledged to never interrupt anyone, male of female, whilst they're making a point, and to only speak once they've finished. That way, I'm also entitled to then say "let me finish here" when I'm making my own point.
And I'd never speak to someone the way that politician in the video would. At the very least, I wouldn't speak that way exclusively to women. If I condescend and patronize, I'm an equal opportunities condescending/patronising a-hole.
But earlier today I critiqued an Asian female critic for talking about 'white male privilege' in relation to a character who was complaining that their father 'only' invested $5 million in their start-up. My argument was that white male privilege is not the same as socioeconomic privilege. They're distinct things. If they were the same, we'd just say 'rich people' and assume 'rich people' encompasses all white men. Was it 'mansplaining' for me to point that out to a woman of colour?
The thing with Prentice (the politician) was his math was correct. The difference in the tax rates was 20%, it was just the way he said it with the condensation. He actually wasn't a bad guy, and died in a plane crash a couple of years ago. But we, the voters, didn't forgive him for the way he spoke to her.
I can't say if what you did was mansplaining because I don't know the entire conversation. From what you are saying, I would say no.
I'm sorry to read that about Prentice (him dying so tragically), but I'm glad the electorate punished him for his arrogance and condescension.
I'm a social democrat who supports progressive taxation, so I'm not sure I would have seen eye-to-eye with him, but if he was factually correct about the tax rate then I can't take that away from him, even if it's a shame he had to be such a jackass about it.
And the way I expressed myself was effectively the way I put it in my post. I quoted the part of the review I was referring to (the line about white male privilege) and simply stated that speaking as a white guy who doesn't have a rich daddy, we shouldn't conflate white and/or male privilege with socioeconomic privilege (I also made some reference to Ivanka and Tiffany Trump, and Lori Loughlin's daughters, to illustrate my point that girls/women can be just as spoiled and pampered as white boys/men).
I focus more on avoiding 'womansplaining' before it's thrust upon me.
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