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How important is music in movies?


And when I say music, I mean the score or just music in general. How important is it?

Cause what I hate is when a film is completely lacking in storytelling and substance, and yet relies on a good score or good music to keep the movie interesting. But then again, it's always great when a film is both great and has a good soundtrack at the same time. I think the soundtrack / score is vital when it comes to creating a compelling atmosphere. But another question I have is...do you think all movies actually need a score or music? Is it possible for a film to have none at all?

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I lack any sort of musical talent which is a big regret...tried guitar as a kid and was completely awful
As an untalented guy but constant movie watcher I can say with all honesty that the score and songs in movies really put me in awe
The music sets the mood, enlarges certain scenes, elicits the feelings of romance or horror or joy...

What would Raiders of the Lost Ark, Halloween, Jaws, Dazed and Confused, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian and a host of other classics be without the sound?

Music in film is every bit as important as the camera work

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It is certainly possible to have a great film with no music, you just would have to set the tone in other ways, and it might take a little longer in the scene to establish that, or maybe a lot of creativity with camera shots, expressions, etc. In a comedy or something, you could do it with overacting. Although, I find most comedies unwatchable, because they already do that, and it's nauseating to me.

I do also believe that sometimes a good soundtrack and visual style can compensate for an otherwise substance-devoid film. Good scenes are important, and they have no substance requirement. Personally, I think it's pretentious BS, the mainstream idea that a scene needs to be cut if it doesn't directly move the story along. Example, Leon: The Professional. Lots of people say they like the cut version better, which to me is absurd, as it removes two of the best scenes with some of the greatest emotional impact I've EVER seen in film.

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I didn't know there were two versions of The Professional. Is it a director's cut?

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The international version is the longer one.

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I agree . Can make or break a movie

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This is a great question. Often until someone points out the score, I'm not really thinking about it that much. I'm focused on what's happening or is going to happen next on the screen. When soundtracks are separated from the movie, we can appreciate whether they can stand on their own musically. Can't say I listen to very many soundtracks unless they include pop and rock tunes, but I don't think that's the point you are trying to make. Movies like American Graffiti and Diner have rock and roll soundtracks that have a different purpose than, let's say, the John Williams Star Wars soundtracks.
Am I making any sense?

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You are making sense snepts👍
I mix up the terms 'score' and 'soundtrack' constantly and that aint cool but here we are lol!

The rousing Star Wars/Jaws/Indiana Jones music was written for the movie specifically...that's a score

The soundtrack may include the score, dialogue, special effects sounds and any songs or music in the movie

It's all pretty exhausting to remember...I'm certain to screw this up again😃

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Haha, i wasn't even thinking about that. I just have some movie albums that are original, strictly instrumental and somewhat abstract, while others have music from the rock era, and others are musicals with vocals. The first type are the ones where I can't decide whether to listen to them or not, and wouldn't notice them during the actual movie. But I do like the concept of an instrumental "score." I never considered the difference between a record that's called a soundtrack versus a score. Seems like they are usually called a soundtrack.

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It only works depending on the director. Sidney Lumet for example.

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I will say if the music draws too much attention during the action, that's a bad thing. Artificially ramping up the emotion seems fake and distracting.

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Depends how you use it.

https://youtu.be/kEfo2u1SyoE?t=640

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Acting, music, and costumes are all important. They tell the story.

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Music is really integral to movies in general. Since the very first days of movies, or even before (stage performance can be said as the precursor of cinema), music has always accompanied movies. To have a movie without music would feel incomplete.

However, I personally think music is actually not that important to movies. Except for some genre, like musical (obviously), children animations, movies about music, musical performance or performers, I'm fine with watching movies with no music. Or even without sound at all.

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