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I agree. Attention whores.
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True but not so weird when you consider there are a lot of men out there that share their wives and enjoy watching them have sex with other men. In the case of the Ks, it appears their narcissism overrides everything else in their lives.
shareA lot of men? Maybe in the realm of Caligula. I'll admit that I'm off of the norm or the mathematical definition of deviant but I hope my wife would smack me upside the head with a shovel if I started looking into that. I am not a prude and just last night I saw an outfit online that would make Madonna (is she still a standard bearer for sexually outrageous?) blush and suggested it to my wife but things like that are a matter for me and the wife. It's not like the designer of said outfit would ever see my wife in it. I guess I can go to bed tonight knowing that I am one of the more squared away people in the world despite my previous notions. Maybe I had better take back the cargo straps (wink wink) I bought yesterday first.
shareYes ! You've never heard of the swinging lifestyle? And there are plenty of variations to that as well. Comparing it to the time of Caligula is really a stretch.
shareOh, I have heard about it and at a fairly young age unfortunately. Not that I have ever taken part (the opportunity while not immediate would not have been hard to find as a young adult) but I think knowing about that sort of thing before being a late teen in a lot of instances warps a person's view on sexuality. There are things going on today concerning sexuality that Caligula could have never envisioned including what was called in the 19th Century a hysteria machine. Back to swinging I just can't imagine it as wide spread to say a lot of men outside Greenwich or Berkley or Hollywood. I'll just stick to fairly indecent outfits for the wife.
shareI did have the opportunity once but didn't pursue it.
There are things going on today concerning sexuality that Caligula could have never envisioned...I agree with this.
As far as widespread, just take a browse through Craigslist on any given day. I have a nearby community of only 7,000 which has a very active swinger's scene and I live in the most conservative part of the country. share
I don't doubt that every sizable community has a group of swingers. In terms of pure numbers I don't see it as wide spread. If I had to guess maybe a couple dozen based on word of mouth in a community of 10,000. Obviously, on a college campus those numbers get distorted greatly. I'll confess to looking at that part of Craigslist but to just see what kind of people do that. I have had maybe 5 opportunities over my middle-aged life. Two of them were before I was married. The last was at a place of work where the woman was fairly aggressive about it and I suspect she was behind me going to a less desirable assignment there. It did not matter as I left a few months later for a much better opportunity. Maybe that was not technically the last because I had my suspicions at a later job but the woman did not expressly say that is why she gave me her phone number.
shareI'll risk carrying this on past some people's comfort level. It should be noted that there is a difference between swinging and multiple sex partners. Even with multiple partners a couple opportunities came and went. Not trying to brag and could not anyways as I declined each and every opportunity. It just was interesting to discuss human sexuality in an open manner.
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