Assisted suicide popular in Canada
Nearly 2000 people have taken advantage since it became legal in June 2016
https://www.yahoo.com/news/canadian-doctors-help-2-000-commit-suicide-212621726.html
Didn't read the article, but i agree with assisted suicide. One thing I think they should change is that if someone has a mental illness, they should still be able to choose the same option. Within reason, you know what I mean.
shareI just had a close family member who committed suicide less than a month ago. He had other options. He left several heartbroken children behind, not to mention a wife with no life insurance to collect on. Very selfish and self-absorbed.
shareassisted suicide is for seriously ill people only who are of sound mind
shareIt's just a fancy name for Do-It-Yourself euthanasia.
sharedoctor assisted euthanasia maybe
shareFrom what I gather, assisted suicide is where you injected the killing shot yourself, the physicians were just providing it (and of course made the assesments beforehand.)
While euthanasia is where the physician is the one who injected the shot. That's why it's not called a suicide. Euthanasia is always doctor assisted. If the assistant was not a doctor it would be called a murder.
Assisted suicide is like assisted selfie, instead of, say, a studio portrait. Somebody else provided the cameraphone, pick the settings, lighting and maybe the Instagram filter for you, but you pressed the shutter button yourself (This way the copyright is yours and not the camera provider's.)
you are correct - the patient administers the final deadly drugs that are supplied by the doctor usually an anesthesiologist.
shareIn the first place, I was responding to Daisy, not you. I never claimed it was an " assisted suicide . "
In the second place, quite often, seriously ill people are not of sound mind.
And finally, why don't you piss off with your high and mighty, lecturing, condescending attitude?
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I was clarifying the Canadian law not commenting on your personal situation. sorry
shareNext time, put politics aside and think before you post. That came across as just as arrogant as trying to put me on a completely undeserved guilt-trip pertaining to the Las Vegas shooter.
sharewe won't agree on guns but I am sorry to hear about a suicide in your family.
shareYou don't know my opinions on guns so your reaction to me was still extremely arrogant, judgemental and unwarranted.
sharewe had a debate on guns earlier in the week - I pretty sure I am aware of your opinions on guns.
shareNo we didn't ! You tried to incite one and I nipped it in the bud. " Pretty sure ?" You know my mind and heart and experiences with guns and their owners during my life better than I do ?
Like I said, piss off you arrogant creep !
You are sensitive when it comes to guns. Maybe someone hacked your account earlier in the week. You should look into that. Calling people names really drives home your point.
shareOh, it's ok for you to call Hugh Hefner a " creep " but not me when it comes to you. Such blatant hypocrisy !
And where is this " hacking " allegation coming from ? Just more obfuscating, creep !
I think you're sensitive to the gun issue because you're subjugated by the Mrs. Back in the day, we referred to that as being " pussy whipped."
I called Hefner a scumbag - he is not a poster here.
The hacking was referring to your comments under the Las Vegas shooting thread where you made your pro gun views well known - there is nothing wrong with that.
I don't understand the Mrs Back reference - please explain.
I thought "pussy whipped'' was when a guy was really into a girl and was controlled by her. What does this have to do with guns ?? Please explain.
You also called him a " creep. " The fact that he's not a poster here is irrelevant. You're fond of accusing members on here of being name-calling.
What I made well known was my heartbreak; check my posting history, creep.
I think you actually grasped the meaning of " pussy whipped . " You conflated Mrs. with " Back. " Now, for the final time, piss off, creep !
Creep/scumbag what's the difference ?? You seem to be confused on the rules of this forum. Please refrain from name calling. Its unbecoming. You really love that 'creep' word - please try to expand your vocabulary at least.
I must admit I probably have been pussy whipped for the last 26 years.
I'm not confused at all. Your admission that you're pussy whipped confirms it. You're really starting to come across as the next thing to a troll. Why don't you just piss off like I've been suggesting ?
shareI have to say I do agree with the seriously ill people not always being of sound mind, but I also believe that the mentally ill are not without a sound mind all the time. Think about. Degrees vary.
shareOh, no. You are mistaken. I am talking about assisted side and the person is about to die. Instead of making their family sit by their bedside, they are aware and alert when they die. They have a choice over their death. We control our lives, why not our deaths? It is only granted to people who are fit to decide. It can be beautiful with a glass of champagne and a good bye. No one should have to suffer, and no one should have to watch.
Suicide is different. Its so different. It is desperation, unhappiness, depression and isolation all in one. People need help.
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I appreciate your empathy, Dazed but I don't consider it a loss. As I already told Catbooks, for me, there was more of a sense of closure and justice. I felt most saddened for his children. Besides being heartbroken, they're bewildered. In addition to the unfair financial burden left to the family, there's that of undeserved guilt for the survivors to grapple with, maybe for the rest of their lives.
In his case, I can't think of any way to justify it. He exhibited extreme selfishness during his adult years and died the way he lived, cowardly. What I can't quite understand is how he evolved into such a despicable person.
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I agree with you. It seem ludicrous that someone would not be able to take their own life or have in writing this is their wish if ever something should happen where they felt they would not want to live with the pain anymore. I don't know if its a choice I would make, but no one can say I suppose until they are in that position.
And yes I am terribly sorry for the losses shared here.
I had a brother who lingered on his deathbed for 10 days, basically kept alive by machinery. My mother was so affected by that, she became adamant that she didn't want that kind of an end so we agreed on a Living Will for her. She was completely comfortable with that and I honored it when the time came.
shareThat was great of you to do, but I'm sure hard. Sorry to hear about your loss. :(
shareAs the oldest son in the family, it was just a natural reaction for me to take the lead. Yes it was hard. I handled the deaths of both of my parents alone except for the funeral home staff.
I appreciate the condolence but years have passed and I'm at peace with those losses, knowing I did everything I could to honor them in their deaths.
I'm glad you are at peace and I'm sure you are even more so knowing you followed their wishes with such respect.
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