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What's wrong with fact checking claims?

posted a month ago by filmflaneur (3062)
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I'm repeatedly being told by one poster in particular that fact checkers are "opinionated propaganda created to refute the truth."

https://library.csi.cuny.edu/misinformation/fact-checking-websites

Why would he say that about them all? It seems to me a lack of support for his views just results in confirmation bias against fact checkers per se, a circular argument if you like.

Interesting work here:

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/fact-checking-fact-checkers-a-data-driven-approach/

Looked at four fact checkers (Snopes, PolitiFact, Logically, and the Australian Associated Press FactCheck) using a data-driven approach. "After adjusting ... systematic discrepancies, we found only one case out of 749 matching claims with conflicting verdict ratings."

While here we read

"Fact checkers tend to agree on validity of news claims, researchers say"

https://www.psu.edu/news/information-sciences-and-technology/story/true-fact-checkers-tend-agree-validity-news-claims

see also here for issues associated with borderline messages (e.g the tag 'mostly true):

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/the-presence-of-unexpected-biases-in-online-fact-checking/

Where it was found that online users exposed to the fact-checking tag Lack of Evidence are more likely to develop a negative stance toward a claim than those exposed to Mixed Evidence. I know I do.

[–] [deleted] a month ago

Because it's like something from 1984 or a brave new world.

once upon a time people could look at something and draw their own conclusion. now we have to go to a special ministry of truth to be told what a fact is? so don't bother thinking?

another problem is that non of these things are impartial, they all have their own bias. like someone else say, ask a fact checking website if a man can be a woman and theres your answer.

these aren't "facts" it's moral relativism spread by evil people to manipulate the well meaning.

you can believe that a man can be a woman, but when so called fact checkers say it too, they are denying science.

but anyway, deep down it seems you're scared of people actually seeing the truth and need to be diverted to some orwellian ministry of facts.

[–] filmflaneur (3062) a month ago

Poster deleted - probably by the deep state lol

now we have to go to a special ministry of truth.. it seems you're scared of people actually seeing the truth and need to be diverted to some orwellian ministry of facts.

We don't 'have to go' anywhere. Fact checkers are not government ministries either. Don't exaggerate.

non of these things are impartial, they all have their own bias.

Any bias can usually be traced to the sources they reference. In terms of a man being a woman, I can tell you without uses of the fact checking sites that it is fact that someone can change their gender but not their sex. This seems to exercise you a lot but that tells one more about you than it does reality.