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How to stand up to a dictator


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSTBoPloqI

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I remember when the government was trying to force people to take medical treatments.

Who was standing up to that?

Oh yeah, bad people.

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Well those who died of Covid certainly didn't.

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Covid or the treatment?

I don't know anyone who died of Covid-19.

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United States. Coronavirus Cases: 111,820,082. Deaths: 1,219,487. Recovered: 109,814,428.

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So you think people should be forced to take medications for an illness with a 99% survival rate, for their own good?

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Don't tell me what I think.

But since you have raised the subject:

Five bad arguments against mandatory vaccination
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10127050/

Covid death rates have dropped as the virus has mutated, with herd immunity and the development of effective vaccines. But all remaining mandates were withdrawn by the administration as of May 11, 2023.

A nuanced and informed account of rates of Covid death over time can be found here

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

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Let us know how many Covid shots you have received.

If it is less than eight, explain why you are not up to date.

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I have had four, and that is all that is recommended here.

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But I thought it only provides 3 to 4 months of coverage.

Is the Science™ different where you live?

Think of the old people and children you're putting at risk!

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The COVID-19 vaccine's protection reduces over time, but it doesn't stop after three months. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that adults over 75 or 80 years old, and adults over 50 or 60 with comorbidities, get revaccinated 6 to 12 months after their most recent dose. The 2024–25 COVID-19 vaccine is a one-shot vaccine for most people, and there is no booster this season.

As I say, I do what is recommended here by the health authorities and get vaccinated accordingly when invited. It is those who refuse vaccinations who most put people at risk.

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Stay frosty.

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er...ok then

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Sheep.

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You see that thing on the end of my sentence? That's a question mark, indicating a fucking question.

There are no bad arguments against mandatory "vaccination". Especially considering that they're not really vaccines and they don't work. My universal response is, you can fuck right off.

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There are no bad arguments against mandatory "vaccination".


Not read the link I gave you then, just above, of 5 such arguments?

Especially considering that they're not really vaccines


So vaccines are not, er, really vaccines?

and they don't work.


Sources for this? Do you mean vaccines in general? Know anyone who has caught polio lately?

My universal response is, you can fuck right off.


Now you just sound defensive.

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Yeah, according to the government, specifically the piece of shit agency that funded the virus' development, which is who is doing the mandate, the arguments are "bad". Like I said. My God, wake up.

No, dipshit. This isn't an indictment against all vaccines. It's an indictment against THIS vaccines. It isn't one. But thanks for repeating the same old propaganda bullshit that if you speak out against THIS vaccine, you're speaking against ALL vaccines.

They don't prevent you from catching COVID, getting sick with COVID or spreading COVID. What else do you need to conclude that they don't work? Thanks for pointing out that polio vaccines actually work.

Yeah asshole, when the government and lemming stooges like you want to suggest that I be required to be injected with an experimental drug that did not go through normal FDA approval proceedings, that is proven not to work, for a virus with a 99% survival rate but also has some serious side effects, I get a little fucking defensive. Especially in hindsight because everyone I know who had the vaccines and boosters were way more sick than I was when they caught COVID. Not to mention the link to certain "turbo cancers", which why all now have.

So pretty please, with sugar on top, fuck off with this.

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the arguments are "bad". Like I said. My God, wake up.


I notice you do not dispute any of the 5 I linked to. And who do I believe - government and health professionals or some guy on an anonymous message board?

dipshit... asshole...fuck off


An insult is not an argument.

This isn't an indictment against all vaccines. It's an indictment against THIS vaccines (sic). It isn't one. But thanks for repeating the same old propaganda bullshit that if you speak out against THIS vaccine, you're speaking against ALL vaccines.
It would be best if you made this clear at the start. This while RFK, another of your ilk, does indeed condemn all vaccines, so one can naturally see confusion.

a virus with a 99% survival rate


Covered before. The covid of today is not that of the original spread while there is now herd immunity, a weaker strain, and, well, effective vaccines.

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

They don't prevent you from catching COVID, getting sick with COVID or spreading COVID. What else do you need to conclude that they don't work?


COVID-19 vaccines approved by the FDA meet rigorous testing criteria and are safe and effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. In the UK

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/monitoring-reports-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination#:~:text=Early%20data%20from%20routine%20COVID,19%20disease%20and%20severe%20outcomes.

Sorry about that. Or rather I am not. Again, who do I give most weight and credence to: the govt and professional data, or some anonymous conspiracist who is now swearing at me? Someone who offers no links against those easily found online from reputable sites?

normal FDA approval

The epidemic was not normal times, but the vaccines were all approved by the FDA.

Not to mention the link to certain "turbo cancers"


Turbo cancer is an anti-vaccination conspiracy theory alleging that people vaccinated against COVID-19, especially with mRNA vaccines, are suffering from a high incidence of fast-developing cancers. Although the idea has been spread by a number of vaccine opponents, including several health professionals, turbo cancer is not supported by cancer research, and there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccination causes or worsens cancer. eg

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-turbocancer-vaccine-idUSL1N3340PQ/

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In other words, you believe everything 'they' feed you. Even after it's been proven that the lied about the virus' origin and the efficacy of masks, social distancing and the "vaccines".

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In other words, you believe everything 'they' feed you.


Guess I am just not someone informed by a professional medical background like you then, eh? And who feeds you?

Even after it's been proven that the lied about the virus' origin and the efficacy of masks, social distancing and the "vaccines".


Most of this is to some extent true, although it was less deliberate falsehood than a revision of scientific advice in light of new data. But the Covid vaccines are effective, as my previous links show. You have offered no links one notes or even sources.

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And I guess there are no medical professionals who lost their jobs because they refused the jab either, huh?

Wrong. They knowingly lied. Nothing about "science" changed regarding our understanding of the physical size of a virus and the filtering capabilities of masks.

The fucking vaccines don't work. They don't prevent you from getting infected, getting sick or spreading. This is fact. Not some conspiracy theory.

You people love to dismiss anything that contradicts the narrative as a conspiracy theory. How did they manage to brainwash you into not requiring answers to those questions?

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And I guess there are no medical professionals who lost their jobs because they refused the jab either, huh?


Quite right, part of the Hippocratic Oath is not to hurt your patients, when an infected person in close contact with patients might do just that. If they don't want to be bound by medical ethics then they had no reason to work in medicine.

Wrong. They knowingly lied. Nothing about "science" changed regarding our understanding of the physical size of a virus and the filtering capabilities of masks...The fucking vaccines don't work. They don't prevent you from getting infected, getting sick or spreading. This is fact. Not some conspiracy theory.

Still waiting for any source for all your claims. Not even from X? lol Also, what has the size of virus have to do with anything. Or do you mean spread? I have given you authoritative links as to the efficacy of the vaccines with the data. Not much more I can do is there?

Not some conspiracy theory.

Sure looks like one to me: "they lied" etc

You people love to dismiss anything that contradicts the narrative as a conspiracy theory. How did they manage to brainwash you into not requiring answers to those questions?


You didn't say where you got your professional medical training.

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Well, that's one way to spin it.

The size has nothing to do with it? Where the fuck did you get our medical training? Do you know what a micron is?

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The size has nothing to do with it?


That is what I asked. Upon analysis of negative-stained SARS-CoV-2 articles by electron microscopy, different researchers have had varying results, but the diameter of the virus has been found to range between 50 nm to 140 nm. So?

Do you know what a micron is?


Yes thank you.

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This is how dumb liberals are. Exhibiting all the fascistic behavior but pointing the finger elsewhere.

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More MSNBC garbage lol..

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We did stand up to a dictator and we rejected her on November 5th

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Maria Ressa’s points:
1. Autocracy is about power and money, not about ideology
2. Beware of bottom up attacks on journalists through social media (journalist = criminal)
3. Beware of top down attacks through legal cases, tax audits, vindictive government agencies
4. Do not normalize autocratic behavior
5. Hold on to democratic values
6. Be transparent
7. Stay committed
8. Not about taking sides, but on the side of facts
9. Hold the line: defend the Constitution
10. In some ways a corrupt government is easier to deal with, as everything is transactional
11. Build community, engage with the real world
12. Crowd funding to address challenges
13. We are factionalized through social media (it connects as well as corrupts us and separates us), has led to people electing illiberal leaders democratically
14. Collaborate
15. Reach across the ideological spectrum to like-minded people who also care about democratic values
16. Embrace your fears
17. Imagine worst case scenarios and workflow them (through drills)

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Are you describing the leader of your country? That's not the US...

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We stood up to Joe...

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Let's hope you continue to stand up against Putin.

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We don't give a shit about Putin. If the US had taken the position we should have in the first place, that shit would've been over years ago. It's nothing but a money laundering operation and the American taxpayer is footing the bill.

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We don't give a shit about Putin

Who is we? You and your mum?
that shit would've been over years ago.

Yes and an emboldened Putin would have a previously free country under this thumb and be eyeing the next...
It's nothing but a money laundering operation and the American taxpayer is footing the bill.

Source for this claim?

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Mum? So you're another British dipshit poking their nose in American politics without the first fucking clue, except what they hear on state media. Got it.

Putin was emboldened by Biden taking office. Had he invaded a NATO country, it would be a different story.

The whole Ukraine debacle is so Biden can cover up his crooked dealings in that country. They don't give a shit about the people that live there.

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Trump will clean up all of Biden's messes, worry not.

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