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What's your favorite war that Biden started?

posted 10 months ago by Heretic (333)
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Boy, there are a lot to chose from.

Which one is your favorite?

Is it Iraq, which as head of the Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate he argued that there was proof Saddam had WMDs and wanted the USA to invade unilaterally since at least 1997?

Is it Syria where he claimed to be arming the "Moderate rebels" which later turned out to include ISIS? (though it's not clear if it was intentional, or more likely that Biden is a gullible dumbass)

Is it Libya where the richest country in Africa was illegally overthrown and then descended into abject poverty and civil war?

Is it when Biden re-invaded Somalia after becoming President?

Is it Ukraine where him and Nuland helped overthrow the government, established 12 CIA bases, and then violated the Minsk agreements which caused the Ukraine war that for some stupid reason costs us hundreds of billions?

Is it his blatant support of the Israeli genocide in Palestine that he provided material support for?

No matter how you slice it, there's more blood on Biden's hands than any other person alive. Which is your favorite war?

[–] Gd5150 (11948) 10 months ago

"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors." Bill Clinton - 1998

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

The majority should pick Ukraine because they really hate Russia, somehow are stupid enough to think that Putin is the next Hitler and wont stop here and try to take over all of Europe, are too stupid to realize that a surrender or a peace negotiation now will save future destruction and civilian lives which means if they are for this war to continue they are for the deaths of civilians.
They also fail to blame Biden for taking us closer to WW3 with this proxy war and refuse to acknowledge it was Biden, a Dem., who did this and not Trump a Repub. as they so thought he would do during his first term.
These idiots think it is wrong to get along with enemies and would rather have WW3 than another Trump term of him getting along with Putin for a possible end to the war and nuclear tensions.

[–] maixiu (2799) 10 months ago

This. Although a good deal of the blame has to rest with the Kagen Kult, the neo-cons, and The Tribe's ancient enmity with Russia. Biden's just been a willing dupe and eager recipient of his 10%. We're ruled by people with dark heart. None of this will improve until the lamp posts of the Imperial Capital are festooned with rotting corpses.

[–] Rorikon (18336) 10 months ago

With that thought, I am taking over your housing unit. Don't you dare fight back. We can be friends by you conceding to my demands of taking 30% of your belongings. You don't want to have a huge fight over frivolous things now would you?

It's their home, if they want to die in the millions for it so be it. They'll decide when to surrender or not.

[–] maixiu (2799) 10 months ago

You've really got to reach to defend the Ukraine, a nation among the most corrupt in the world, one that has spent a decade violently persecuting Russians that don't want to be ruled by KEEEEEEVVVV.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Sure Ivan. Go get your 5 rubles for comment.

[–] maixiu (2799) 10 months ago

Muh Russian trolls!!! REEEEEEE!

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

I'm a lover not a fighter and I would rather live than die and what you propose will be a lot better than the current corrupt system I am now living under.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

People like you believed in 1939 that everyone should just surrender and "give" Poland to Hitler. That he would take "what he wants" and stop. LOL.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Dude, you sit in moms basement and have no idea what is happening in russo-Ukraine war. All you know is what fellow delusional conspiracy theorists told you. And thosr are old farts that know nothing about real world too. Why would you keep writing about things you don't understand - I don't know.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

But Biden's the one that's starting these wars. In your scenario, whether you realize it or not, you are the fervent Hitler supporter wanting to wage war in other countries.

It's despicable and history won't be kind to you or Biden.

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

"...you are the fervent Hitler supporter wanting to wage war in other countries."

Which is so easy for them to do sitting at home being cozy and safe with their dog at their side as they drink a couple of beers or cups of coffee with a fridge full of food being the keyboard warriors they are nowhere near the shit.

If their neighborhood was reduced to rubble with everyone around them dead or gone I bet they would be singing a different tune.
Soiling their underwear crying and sobbing wanting to get away and willing to surrender to the first "enemy" soldier they see.

Sure, they will talk tough, "If they attack us I am grabbing my gun and running to the front lines to defend!" but c'mon.
They would really end up being a little bitch against an army with training and more firepower.
It is easy to fantasize being the badass from watching Red Dawn and too many Norris and Stallone movies but IRL?
They would be toast in no time.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Did Biden start WW2 instead of Hitler too?

Putin literally started war against Ukraine.

Delusional trumpists: "Biden started war in Ukraine"....

LOL. I just can't

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

Hitler to Putin is an apples to oranges argument.
Different times and totally different situations.
Not like Putin is going to round up the surviving civilians and take them to concentration camps for mass murder.

If you want Ukraine to defend itself then that means you want the war to drag on as long as possible which means you want civilians to die, which is easy to do when you are sitting there comfortably far away from the danger.

Heck, if you really care for them so much what is stopping you from going over and joining them in their fight?
Better them than you, right?

See?
You can't criticize me to claim that I, "sit in moms basement," without looking hypocritical.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

russia literally puts Ukrainians in their consecration camps and torture. Watch any Ukrainian Prisoner of war that was exchanged for russian POW. They look like they came straight from concentration camp, looking as thin and people in those camps during WW2.

But I assume you don't know that because in your little echo chamber your handlers don't talk about that. And you don't follow real news.

Putin is literally "Hitler of 21 century". Very cheap copy. But copy.

Thank God Internet didn't exist during WW2. Because you crazy lunatics would sit and whine every day how everyone should surrender to Hitler and "war would be over". Stop embarrassing yourself and talk about things you don't understand.

What's amazing is that we never see how those pro-russian trumpists, including Elon Musk ever talk about that russia must stop attacking Ukraine and end war. No. Those traitorous freaks always speak only to Ukraine and demand them to stop fighting. Because whatever they claim - they are traitors, nazies and russian assets. Who try to mask themselves to be "pacifists". LOL.

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

Thank you for showing how between us you are the delusional crackpot full of shit who is clueless on what he is talking about.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Dude - you want war to stop? Go and tell russia to stop it.

People who don't follow news and would stumble upon trumpists posts would actually think that it's Ukraine who invaded russia and trumpists beg Ukraine to stop doing that and end war.

But nope. It's those idiot trumpists demand for Ukraine to surrender. Because that what trumps owner russia told him to demand. So he send his imbecile minions to run around Internet and demand. LOL.

[–] Thaistickers (1590) 10 months ago

The war on high pharmaceutical prices.

[–] Rorikon (18336) 10 months ago

I wouldn't say he started them when he wasn't in charge. He maybe had some influence on it but that's about it. Obama had the final say. Rest I can agree with.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Obama said publicly that he was putting Joe Biden in charge of foreign policy.

At the time he was saying that it was Biden's decisions to do those things (though he also said Libya was Hillary's decision in addition to Joe's to be fair. And Ukraine was Biden and Nuland similarly.)

[–] Rorikon (18336) 10 months ago

Do you have a source for this? I don't recall this as it was long while back.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

You lost me at Syria. But the most hilarious of your delusional rant was. of course, about Ukraine.

I will never understand how trumpists can type that with serious face. I'm sure you also believe that Americans were never on Moon and that Elvis killed Kennedy.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Nothing delusional about my rant. Sorry Biden's illicit and unparalleled war crimes in the modern era upset you, but it's the truth.

Also, I'm an RFK Jr supporter, not a Trump one.

Antiwar is my biggest issue so suffice to say, Biden has been by far the worst politician of my life time.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Terrorists countries don't care about you "being anti-war".

It's like if you would proclaim to be "anti-criminal" and expect criminals not to touch you because of that. They don't care, honey.

Ukraine was anti-war peaceful country with broken military in 2014. And still was attacked by crazy neighbor.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Ukraine has been at war in Donbas since 2014 actually.

It was not an "anti-war" country.

They allowed the CIA to even build 12 bases in Ukraine and violated the Minsk agreements which got them invaded.

Had Nuland and Biden not done those two things, Ukraine wouldn't be at war. They directly caused it.

Imagine if Putin helped throw a coup against the Canadian government and then built 12 spy bases to monitor the USA and started selling them Russian weaponry. What would the USA's response be?

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 10 months ago

"Also, I'm an RFK Jr supporter..."

That's good to know.
My respect for you went way up from what it was previously.

I plan to vote for the leading independent candidate and if it's RFK I shall do that.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

I mean it's year 2024 and Iraq has no nukes and is not any threat to the world. So that thing worked 100%.

Iran was not bombed and look at it now - it's basically second most dangerous terrorist country on earth after russia. Iran is supplying russia with rockets and very dangerous Shahed drones that russia is bombing Ukraine with. Iran mastered those drones. And is very dangerous to any country including Israel. That's why Israel is bombing it time after time. Iran probably has even nukes now.

None of that would happen if USA would attack them like they did Iraq. Now imagine what would happen in Iraq if Hussein would still be in power. They would go "full Iran" and do the same.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Erm, it was proven that Iraq didn't have a nuclear weapons program. The whole thing was made up by Biden's intelligence officers in coordination with the W admin and he later admitted that it was a lie when he testified that Saddam had a nuke program before the Senate.

Israel is a leech and not a good ally. We don't need to break the budget defending a wealthy country. We've given them hundreds of billions in "aid" so if they can't make it on their own now, so be it. The money pit must be cut off.

The reason Iran doesn't like us is because we are over there. Otherwise, they really wouldn't care and have no way of striking the mainland USA given that their planes are mostly ones we sold them 50+ years ago, and their navy is a joke.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Ukraine had no beef with Iran. Yet Iran started bombing Ukraine with their drones they gave to nazi russia.

Iran not liking USA is because Iran is terrorist country led by crazy fanatics.

Iraq is now living, not bothering anyone. If Hussein would still be in power - it would probably be as crazy as Iran. Meaning making more weapons and attacking other countries. Trumpists are just too simple minded to understand such big things.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Iran had beef with the USA though.

We supported Saddam in his brutal invasion of Iran in the 80s and they are still mad about that, and for good reason.

In politics, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Plus, it's a business opportunity.

Iran saw Russia getting abused by it's smaller neighbor Ukraine via being a USA proxy, much like it had suffered from the USA using Iraq as a proxy against Iran, and decided to help.

What you leave out about Iraq is that large parts of it are now an Iranian proxy, and parts of the country are still in a civil war. It was not a successful mission. Biden supporters are just to bloodthristy to realize that these interventions are not positives for world peace.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

You lost me at "Russia getting abused by it's smaller neighbor Ukraine".

This is the most hilarious thing I read in a while. Thank you.

"Hitler started WW2 because Germany was getting abused by it's smaller neighbor Poland".

Just when you think those conspiracy theorists can't get any more crazy in their job as nazi apologists - they always find a way to outdo themselves.

[–] Heretic (333) 10 months ago

Look up the Donbas war. It started in Ukraine in 2014.

The Ukraine war is just an escalation of it (though Russia isn't exactly an innocent party either).

And it's not a conspiracy theory. Putin warned if we kept arming Ukraine and violating the Minsk agreements, he'd invade...and then he invaded and said it was because Biden violated the Minsk agreements.

The real conspiracy is thinkign that Biden was an innocent party in this, when in fact him and Nuland pushed for armed confrontation between Ukraine and Russia long before even Putin did.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Russia attacked Ukraine in 2014 when it invaded Crimea and Donbas. Then there was "peace agreements" that russia was constantly breaking by shooting at Ukrainian soldiers. Then in 2022 russia broke those peace agreements completely and made full scale invasion, trying to occupy whole Ukraine.

russia is literally the only aggression here. They are occupants and nazies. Just line nazi germans and hitler were.

Dear conspiracy theorists - go get professional help. Your nonsense is hilarious to read but you are mentally unwell if you actually believe all that nonsense you write.

[–] emori (3674) 10 months ago

Dear trumpists. You CAN hate Biden and democrats without bowing to every one that Biden and Democrats fight with.
This is idiotic.

You don't have to bow to russia and work as nazi apologists.

You don't have to start worship Hitler and praise nazies and say they had reason just because Democrats say they are bad.

You don't have to bow to Bin Laden and ISIS only because Democrats say those are terrorists.

This is beyond common sense. The way trumpists stood on their knees and started sucking dcks of every russian they meet only because Democrats are against nazi russia is truly hilarious and sad. It's like if a child goes and froze his ears because he got angry at mom who told him to war hat because it's cold. And he didn't want, went and now can't hear. But he "showed mom" who is now crying because her idiot child will never hear again because of his own stupidity. That's trumpists.

[–] Porsche911 (3806) 10 months ago

This is one hell of a solid post. Thanks OP 🙏

I would say take your pick.
I’m think the war at home is a valid point as well. The increased spending, the immigrants, our national debt, the way he hands America over to Blackrock & Vanguard, the inflation, our economy, “the war” on white people.
We are in bad shape now and with Bricks looming the $ might tank as well. End of a superpower.