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71% of Gazans believe what’s happening now in Gaza is a worthwhile cost of the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel

posted 8 months ago by RustyShacklefurd (2039)
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/over-70-percent-of-palestinians-support-hamass-october-7-terror-attack-poll/

A recent poll done by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research finds that 71% of Gazans believe Hamas was right to carry out the October 7th attack against Israel.

This is just incredible. In the middle of a months-long war in which tens of thousands of Gazans have been killed and thousands of buildings in Gaza have been destroyed or damaged, the overwhelming majority of Gazans believe the attack that started this mayhem was actually worth it. And the war isn't even over yet.

It seems the overwhelming majority of Gazans believe things really aren't so bad for them. And everyone who claimed that Hamas doesn't really represent the Palestinians because there hasn't been a Palestinian election since 2006 can put to rest that lie.

[–] TheHardSell (1709) 8 months ago

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 8 months ago

Lol. Of course they support Hamas now. After your home has been bombed and family killed by Israel, sure, you're gonna be the most vicious terrorist against Israel too. Would you not want to cut the throat of the people who killed your mother?

This is a huge blunder on Israel's part. It just assures Hamas will be stronger than ever with tens of thousands new young angry recruits.

[–] RustyShacklefurd (2039) 8 months ago

You seem to misunderstand the poll. It's not saying that 71% of Gazans support future Hamas attacks against Israel. It's saying that 71% of Gazans believe Hamas made the right choice by carrying out the October 7th attack 6 months ago. Their homes have been bombed and families killed as a result of the October 7th attack. 71% of Gazans believe that carrying out that attack that resulted in tens of thousands killed in Gaza was the right decision by Hamas. Just consider how insane that perspective is 5 months into this war.

And how the hell is Israel's response a "blunder" in any way? Hamas took over 200 hostages during the attack, with over 100 still remaining in captivity. The IDF has to attack Hamas in Gaza to free the hostages outright or to put pressure on Hamas to release them. Hamas already massacred over a thousand Israelis on 10/7, by far the worst terrorist attack on Israel in its history. It's Israel's 9/11. Hamas is dedicated to Israel's complete destruction. 2 weeks after the attack, a Hamas leader vowed that Hamas would carry out more such attacks again and again and again until Israel is destroyed. Hamas in Gaza already started off this war with tens of thousands of fighters.

So how the hell does Israel's current war in Gaza make Israel any worse off? What the hell would Israel actually gain by not trying to destroy Hamas in Gaza? Refraining from this war wouldn't free the Israeli hostages in Gaza and it wouldn't end Hamas's war to destroy Israel. If Israel succeeds in completely destroying the Hamas leadership and infrastructure in Gaza then it will be a lot harder for future potential terrorists in Gaza to put together attacks against Israel. If the Hamas leadership and infrastructure is destroyed then there won't be any terrorist group for those tens of thousands of potential new recruits to join.

[–] CountJohn (602) 8 months ago

Would you not want to cut the throat of the people who killed your mother?

Why does that not apply to Israel's reaction then? It's like everyone expects them to show restraint but never the Palestinians. And Hamas started this round of fighting so without their reactions none of this would be happen. I'm going to spend more time criticizing the person who hit first than the person who hit second.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 8 months ago

It's naive to think this started on October 7th. This has been going on for 75 years. Both sides have committed atrocities.

[–] filmflaneur (1084) 23 days ago

Despite the justifiable need to defend themselves and the huge provocation of the initial Hamas attack, imho the truth is that Israel's disproportionate response, which amounts to group punishment, is just adding to the hate against themselves down the generations to come. No wonder this poll reflects that.

[–] RustyShacklefurd (2039) 20 days ago

Do you realize how insane it is after the Gazans have directly endured months of this brutal war for them to believe that the Hamas attack that started it all was worthwhile? It gives the impression that Gazans believe their situation isn't really all that bad. That it's a worthwhile cost of what they believe will advance their political agenda. Israel's war against Hamas hasn't made Gazans hate them anymore because Gazans felt the same way about the Hamas attack on the day that it happened as they did when this poll was conducted months later. Everyone in Gaza was celebrating on October 7th last year.

I don't see how Jews could "add to the hate" against themselves after the Holocaust already happened. The Nazis never let up on their hate against the Jews and never let up on slaughtering Jews by the millions despite never receiving a disproportionate response from the Jews. Hamas and the rest of those who hate Jews so much are merely standing on the shoulders of the numerous generations of the past 2,000 years. There's nothing to be done about it. But Jews can help whether they can defend themselves. Hate matters less if you have the ability to destroy those who would do violence to Jews. Nothing less than a "disproportionate" response could defeat Hamas in Gaza and Israel can't afford to not defeat Hamas in Gaza. A "disproportionate" response is how we beat Germany and Japan in World War II. What we did to Germany and Japan amounted to group punishment.

[–] filmflaneur (1084) 20 days ago

Everyone in Gaza was celebrating on October 7th last year.

Not everyone was a supporter of Hamas (the same is for Hezbollah), but I imagine that the result of the current Israeli campaign will be to confirm hate against themselves. It has happened before and is happening again.

Hate matters less if you have the ability to destroy those who would do violence to Jews. Nothing less than a "disproportionate" response could defeat Hamas in Gaza and Israel can't afford to not defeat Hamas in Gaza.

Unfortunately I can't see that ever happening and Israel at the moment has no exit strategy. The disproportionate response of a far right wing Israeli administration has simply added to the misgivings of the rest of the world in general and Israel's friends in particular

I don't see how Jews could "add to the hate" against themselves after the Holocaust already happened.

I am sorry but I do not take part in Holocaust thread or content on principle. so this is the last from me.

[–] RustyShacklefurd (2039) 20 days ago

Israel had nothing to lose from this war. 2 weeks after the attack, a Hamas leader in Gaza vowed that Hamas would carry out more such attacks again and again and again until Israel is destroyed. And because Hamas was a brutal dictatorship in Gaza, it didn't matter how all or most Gazans felt about this. It didn't matter that not everyone supported Hamas. It had no effect on what Hamas did. Second, Gazans hated Israel just as much before the 10/7 attack as they do now. Gazans weren't going to suddenly give up their hatred of Israel if it didn't go to war against Hamas. Recall what I said about the Germans not giving up their hatred of Jews after persecuting and slaughtering them even though the Jews never significantly retaliated against the Germans for it. History offers important lessons and they don't disappear just because you want to ignore them. Gazan hatred of Israel matters a lot less if Hamas has no power in Gaza.

Israel is steadily defeating Hamas in Gaza. It's decapitating the Hamas leadership and destroying the tunnels under the Philadelphi Corridor that Hamas used to bring in arms and supplies. Israel doesn't need an exit strategy. An exit strategy won't protect Israel. A lack of "misgivings" by the world won't protect Israel. Bibi being right-wing has nothing to do with this war. If any other coalition or party were running Israel on 10/7 then they would have responded the same way to the Hamas attack.