Racist. Over-reaction. Paranoid.
Watch the gun nuts defend their psychosis.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ralph-yarl-kansas-city-teen-shooting-wrong-house/
NORMAL people ask "Who is it?" An unknown name would be followed by "What do you want?"
A NORMAL homeowner would've quickly realized the error and directed the CHILD to the correct address.
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You have a 1 in 24.3 chance of being the victim of a property crime in Kansas City each year. That compares to a 1 in 51.1 chance nationally. I think we see a democrat town that is the worse place in the state.People having to sleep on the floor because they are worried about bullets going through the walls.
share"Gun Nuts Will Defend Shooting a Child Who Knocked on a Door"
I told you so!
"You have a 1 in 24.3 chance of being the victim of a property crime in Kansas City each year."
Does that mean that once every twenty-five years, someone may take your hand spade you left on the lawn?
I have had my home broke in to three times and my truck once. I am considered lucky living in the area I do.
shareI defend his right to own a gun. However, I do not defend his "right" to shoot someone for knocking on his door.
If his first thought is to grab his gun when someone knocks on his door, then he is mentally unstable and clearly a danger to himself and others. And therefore should be committed to a mental hospital. Once he receives treatment and is mentally stable, he can go back home and have his guns.
Depends if he was a credible threat. The article says none of this, nor a motive is known...so it's best to wait and speculate, but not make accusations. Especially not 'guilty by association' accusations like the commies on the board oh so love to do.
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I am not claiming that this is what happened. I'm simply stating what should be done if it did happen this way.
Knocking on the door, or even talking shit, does not give you the right to end someone's life. If you think it does then you are mentally unstable and belong in a psychiatric hospital.
Now, if the little shit was trying to break in, or in anyway threatened the guy's life (or even his property), then yes, he earned a bullet.
And please for the love of Christ, stop blaming commies for the actions of Democrats. Democrats are not commies. They are anti-commie.
Some would describe me as real commie because I am a genuine socialist. But let me be clear: As a socialist, I despise all Democrats. They are the enemy of the people.
I can't get a handle on B1cksurN. Most of his posts sound right wing, but he says he was a "classic liberal" before 2016. He posted that he thinks David Bowie's heirs shouldn't be able to receive income from dead Bowie's music (and presumably that opinion extends to all IP heirs.) I disagree with him there. He also posted that he thinks DuPont heir babies born today shouldn't be entitled to $4 million plus at birth. I agree with him there.
shareLOL, I'm a radical centrist. I have lots of positions that could potentially fall on "either side" as it were.
The world's not black and white, yo.
"Classic Liberal", as I put it...were the mostly 'default positions' of the Democratic Party circa 1995. Things have changed since then. Democrats changed, and I grew up. They left me. I didn't leave them. So here I sit, with my values that are not all the way left, nor right.
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Yes, I often hear from right wingers about how much they hate communism. They see communists everywhere and think they are going to take over America and destroy it. The funny thing is they don't really know what communism is. They will often support communist policies as long as they don't know they are communist. If we had communism in America, many of them would support it, you just can't call it communism. Perhaps we should just implement communism but call it Americanism. I guarantee you many of them will love it.
What they don't love is democrats, who they think are communists. They are not. I think the reason they call democrats communist is because democrats are authoritarian scum and right wingers associate communism with authoritarianism (which makes sense since the Soviet Union was socially authoritarian even though economically they were communist.)
We need to educate right wingers and help them understand their enemy — which is Neo-Liberalism. Democrats (and Republicans) are Neo-Liberals. The scum of the earth that has dismantled the United States over the last 40 years. We need to take our country back from these parasites.
I hope one day the right and the left will come together to overthrow the corporate (neo-liberal) state.
Democrats are not commies.
Democrats are anti-communist. They are Neo-Liberals. It's true that some of them might have supported communism when they were younger and more idealistic, but once they get into power they prop up the current system: Neo-Liberalism.
I suspect that the reason you think Democrats are communists is because Democrats are authoritarian scum.
The problem is that you are conflating authoritarianism (a form of government) with communism (an economic system). They are not the same thing. You can have libertarian communism (like in Spain between 1936 to 1939), and you can have authoritarian capitalism like you have now in Saudi Arabia.
You need to decouple communism from authoritarianism. You have correctly identified Democrats as an enemy of the people, you just have to call the enemy by their true name: neo-liberals (corporatists).
You are saying his guilt based on what the press says happened. It is likely the kid came up and was beating on the door instead.
shareStill defending the gun nut while treating the victim as a criminal.
shareI am not saying any such thing. All I'm saying is what should happen if that is the case. But I'm not saying that it is the case.
Also, just beating on someone's door is not a good enough reason to be shot. Only if he breaks the door down and comes inside, is it justifiable to shoot him.
When someone is beating on your door it's just a nuisance — at best harassment. But it is not a threat to your life.
We will see what in court. It says he rang the doorbell. As the owner was opening the inside door the kid started opening the outside door to go in. That is when the owner shot. Pictures show the glass out and pieces on the ground.
shareIf his first thought is to grab his gun when someone knocks on his door, then he is mentally unstable and clearly a danger to himself and others. And therefore should be committed to a mental hospital. Once he receives treatment and is mentally stable, he can go back home and have his guns.
Personally I don't care if there is a racial component. All that matters is whether his life was in danger or not.
If a black guy tries to break into his home and he happens to hate black people and shoots him while shouting the N-word, then I have no problem with it. If however he shot a guy for just knocking on his door regardless of whether he likes black people or not, he is still a nutcase and belongs in either a mental institution or like you said: A prison cell.
Based on the uncertainty of how the events played out, and that Missouri has the strictest castle doctrine laws, it's best to wait and get the facts before jumping to conclusions.
But obviously we know that the won't happen, and the forum bigot will jump the gin and post their hate in a thread...like this one!
Mr. Yarl looks like he's 21 years old, he isn't a 'child'. He was probably talking shit to the homeowner. But again, I'll wait for the facts. Like a sensible human being would.
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How did he look unarmed on the ground with a bullet in the head when your gun nut pal shot him a second time?
shareThat is just made up press stuff that he was on the ground and shot again. Likely the owner shot twice as the kid was opening the outer door as the owner was opening the inner one.We will find out in court.
shareBased on the available information, I’m not defending it. It’s not hard to be reasonable when you don’t have an agenda to push.
I actually agree with Benjamin Crump here.
"You can't just shoot people without having justification when somebody comes knocking on your door and knocking on your door is not justification," Crump said. "This guy should be charged."
Police have not identified the shooter or his race, though civil rights attorney Ben Crump told The Star the shooter appears to be white.share
There is zero reason to shoot anyone for knocking on a door.
The gun nut walked up to him as the child was unarmed and helpless on the ground with a bullet in the head shows the gun nut's intention to kill an innocent child since there was no threat.
The good news is that the homeowner will be forced to spend a fortune on lawyers and an impending civil suit.
Racism was obvious.
"'Racial component' cited by prosecutors in shooting of black teen Ralph Yarl as homeowner hit with charges"
https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/homeowner-who-shot-black-teen-ralph-yarl-in-the-head-after-teen-rang-doorbell-charged-with-two-felonies/
Racist state, racist governor and racist people:
"Missouri Gov. Mike Parson on Tuesday announced that he made good on his promise to pardon a couple who gained notoriety for pointing guns at social justice demonstrators as they marched past the couple's home in a luxury St. Louis enclave last year.
Mark McCloskey emerged from his home with an AR-15-style rifle, and Patricia McCloskey waved a semiautomatic pistol, according to the indictment. Photos and cellphone video captured the confrontation, which drew widespread attention and made the couple heroes to some and villains to others. No shots were fired and no one was hurt.
Special prosecutor Richard Callahan said his investigation determined that the protesters were peaceful."
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/03/1024446351/missouris-governor-pardons-the-st-louis-lawyers-who-waved-guns-at-blm-protesters
The blm mob was clearly NOT peaceful. Thus the Prosecutor is seen to be a liar and on the side of hte violent criminals.
We are seeing this as a growing trend, democrats arresting normal Americans for daring to defend themselves against violent left leaning thugs.
Jan. 6 anti-American mob beating and killing cops to install their cult leader as dictator was NOT peaceful. I hope you're deprogrammed on day.
shareNone of the hundreds of riots of the Trump years were peaceful. Yet you people only care about the ONE right leaning riot.
That's called politically motivated prosecution. That means that all the prisoners from that, are not in prison because of their crime, but because of their politics.
Thus, you dems are holding political prisoners.
You are oppressive tryants that are massively violating civil rights, right now, in real time.
"hundreds of riots of the Trump years"
We both agree that Trump incited violence and hatred. We both agree that the country has become peaceful since Biden became president.
Mmm, no. Trump is not responsible for the hysterical overreaction of the Left to him winning, in 2016.
That was on them.
As for 1/6 I would say he incited ANGER. But really, people were already pissed as hell. And still are. The shit we put up with.
Do you support the holding of people in prison for political reasons?
The Jan. 6 mob who beat and killed cops, attempted to overthrow democracy and install a dictatorship and shacked the Capitol are where they belong. It's time for their leader to join them.
shareIf you believed that, you would not exaggerate what they did. There was a riot, not cops were killed, and it was clearlly not an attempt to overthrow democracy.
You just LIED, to support the holding of poliitcal prisoners and the violation of their civil rights.
We are well on the way to this NOT being a free country. Thanks to you and people like you.
It is also worth noting, that you said NOTHING about your sides far more numerious and deadly brown shirt goons, antifa and blm, and their hundreds of riots that are quietly being forgotten.
"There was a riot, not cops were killed"
You hate cops.
"Seditious conspiracy trial against Proud Boys members in hands of jury
Jurors are deliberating in the case against Proud Boys members who stormed the capitol on Jan. 6. They face multiple criminal counts, including seditious conspiracy, a rarely-used, Civil War-era charge for plotting to overthrow the government.
This is just one of three seditious conspiracy trials we have had so far.
The first two have related to the Oath Keepers, another far right group. And its leader, Stewart Rhodes, and one of his top deputies were convicted, as well as several other Oath Keeper defendants.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/seditious-conspiracy-trial-against-proud-boys-members-in-hands-of-jury
You need to get out of your self-imposed bubble and deal with reality.
Oh, so you're dropping that nonsense about cops being killed?
Why did you say it then?
Becuase you need to lie to support the hysterical overreacction to this one riot, while sweeping all the other, far more numerous and deadly riots of YOUR side, under the rug.
THe 1/6 riot delayed a formality a couple of hours. Charging people with SEDITION for that, is something you would see in a tyranny.
And here's yet another story of a gun owning coward who shot and killed someone completely without provocation!
https://wnyt.com/top-stories/news-conference-planned-in-deadly-washington-county-shooting/
Seriously, why are so many gun owners such chickenshits?
I saw that earlier today. Only 20. Throw the book at him.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-04-17/ny-woman-driven-to-wrong-address-fatally-shot-by-homeowner
Yet another elderly man who thought someone was breaking into his apartment and came to the door with a gun pointed at the police who responded after receiving a phone call from his nephew about a possible break-in attempt. Cops killed the gun owner.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/15/us/new-york-attorney-general-police-shooting/index.html
In answer to your question, guns are sold by using fear. People listen to too much news and it makes them nuts.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/armed-73-old-chases-teens-175550527.html
And another! Just WTF is happening with the MAGA crowd this week that they are going full Charles Bronson over basically nothing?
Another gun nut looking for an excuse to use a gun.
shareUPDATE:
"An 85-year-old white man, Andrew Lester, has been charged with two crimes in the April 13 shooting of Ralph Yarl, 16, who is Black: assault in the first degree and armed criminal action, Clay County Prosecuting Attorney Zachary Thompson said Monday.
An arrest warrant was issued for Lester, who is not in custody, Thompson said, adding that he didn't know where Lester was.
Lester's bond was set at $200,000, Thompson said.
Thompson said there was a racial component to the shooting but declined to elaborate. Lester faces a maximum punishment of life in prison in the assault charge and three to 15 years for the alleged gun crime, Thompson said.
Thompson said no words were exchanged before Lester allegedly opened fire with a .32 revolver, striking Yarl twice — once in the head and once in the arm. Yarl had not entered the home when Lester allegedly shot him through a glass door, Thompson said.
Speaking to NBC News' Tom Llamas, family attorney Lee Merritt said he was unaware Lester would be charged but said Yarl's relatives were relieved.
"He rang the doorbell shortly before 10 p.m. and waited for someone to respond.
“Whoever was inside took a little longer than he anticipated to respond, and so he just waited at the door,” Merritt said, citing a statement Yarl gave to law enforcement investigators from his hospital bed Friday.
“He heard rustling around going on in the house and then finally the door was open,” the attorney said. “And he was confronted by a man who told him, ‘Don’t come back around here,’ and then he immediately fired his weapon.”
Yarl was shot in the head, which cracked his skull and left him with a critical, traumatic brain injury, the attorney said. While the teenager was still on the ground, the homeowner opened fire a second time, striking Yarl in the upper right arm, Merritt said.
How the encounter turned violent so quickly still confuses Yarl as he recovers, his aunt, Faith Spoonmore, said.
"Ralph, you're alive, buddy'
“We’ll remind him like, ‘Ralph, you’re alive, buddy.’ And then he has the times where he’s like, ‘Why? I did nothing wrong. Why? I did nothing wrong.’ And he just cannot understand why,” Spoonmore said. “So it’s waves. He goes through waves.”
"Ralph just got off the phone with the president of the United States tonight," the lawyer said. "He’s relieved by the outpouring of support. And like I said he had a chance to speak with the White House and the President of the United States can get some direction currently."
Yarl said the person who shot him was a white man who "seemed angry and hostile" by his presence on the property, his attorney said.
Merritt said the teenager miraculously saved his own life by fleeing and banging on at least three neighbors’ doors for help.
At the third home, Merritt said the neighbor told Yarl to lie on the ground and put his hands in the air. He complied and then passed out, the attorney said."
https://www.aol.com/news/kansas-city-shooter-exchanged-few-200708840.html
"the third home, Merritt said the neighbor told Yarl to lie on the ground and put his hands in the air. He complied and then passed out, the attorney said."
What kind of fucked up neighborhood did this child wander into? I lived in some rough areas in the 90's, but even then, a random person stumbling towards you with a gunshot wound would likely get some help.
I live in crime filled Houston that is like that town. I wouldn't let a stranger inside but tell him to wait outside as I call police and an ambulance.Treating him you let yourself open to all kinds of lawsuits that the liberal goomers throw out at people to get money from them.
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You don't need to worry about this if you're "judgement-proof." Your "Confederate Heroes" belt buckle collection (MADE IN CHINA) isn't worth the filing fee for the lawsuit.
It was his property!!!!
Of course, they'd feel a lot differently if he shot some blonde white girl under the same circumstances, I would bet.