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Can We Appreciate Female Beauty Without Demeaning Women?

posted 2 years ago by HarveyManFredSin (4877)
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I'm a straight dude. I make no apologies for that, and hence, I find women attractive, and yes, like a lot of men, I'm attracted to certain, curvy, body-types, and some of the various women trending on the main page.

BUT do we have to use such demeaning, objectifying, belittling language to describe beautiful women? Sure, a certain woman may be well-endowed and curvy, but that doesn't mean we have to boorishly come up with 100 ways to describe 'big boobs' (which is what I see on some of these pages/threads). It's pathetic, a sad indictment on my fellow straight men, and, like I say, rather demeaning to the women in question.

If you appreciate female pulchritude, as I do, let's not spoil it by making beautiful women feel embarrassed or ashamed of their bodies. Is that really what you want?

[–] Lord Rake (4536) 2 years ago

I've stopped using the word clit. Women find it offensive.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Me to. Instead I use the word 'cunt'.

[–] Draytona500 (6) 2 years ago

Just hilarious.

What a wasted ovulation.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Just hilarious.

I'm glad you agree.

[–] Lord Rake (4536) 2 years ago

I use the term gash now myself, sometimes slit.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Oooh I like slit.

[–] Lord Rake (4536) 2 years ago

I like your idea of cunt as well but that's what I call the wife.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

How long have you been married to this cunt?

I call my girlfriend a cunt too but only when we are joking around busting each other's balls. Never unironically.
We have a wicked sense of humor.

[–] Lord Rake (4536) 2 years ago

4 years and I only use the term when she is acting like one. But it gets her attention, if I was to use it to describe her vagina then I'd risk getting laid every time I was trying to tell her off.

[–] Bloodshot77 (14250) 2 years ago

I prefer slot. The slot, how's the slot?

Signed, million man.

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 2 years ago

You know you got a keeper when she has no problem saying and hearing the word cunt as part of dirty talk during sex!

[–] aliensalmon (5855) 2 years ago

I guess just don't bring up the topic of breasts or butts when you talk to them?

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

That goes without saying, but this isn't 4chan. This should be a space where women and men can interact without women or indeed male 'feminists' or feminist allies, like myself, can feel comfortable without a constant barrage of sexism and misogyny.

[–] Draytona500 (6) 2 years ago

Agreed. I’m not famous for my feminism, but ladies might like to know that most men find anonymous Chantard misogyny almost as tiresome as they do. Courtesy aside and apart from anything else, the opportunity cost alone is diabolical: all the astute, enlightening, inspiring etc posts you would be reading if the lowest common denominator didn’t prevail.

I suppose that means we chaps have something of a duty to denounce this rot.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Yes, it does, and as much as I like and generally get on with InquiringMind on other topics, this is a rare case where we *don't* really see eye-to-eye.

I'm not a militant feminist. I'm an egalitarian. I use words like 'simping' and I occasionally talk about double-standards, because the truth is, I've known good and bad men, and good and bad women, and I've been on the receiving end of abusive women (but I do use the word 'simp' to apply to both men and women; the point being, I don't worship anyone). However, whilst I might not worship anyone and refuse to put anyone on a pedastal, I sure as shit will NOT demean them, mock them, or degrade them on account of their sex.

Sure, I'm a straight guy. I like women, and I appreciate the female form, but there are ways of expressing one's feelings about the female form *without* being overly crude and off-putting, especially to those women who do frequent the site, or would do so were it *not* for all the crudity and misogyny.

And speaking as a straight guy, it almost makes me ashamed of my sexuality, if this is how other straight guys speak (yourself excluded, assuming you're also a straight guy).

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

I love broads too. Nothing like a fine piece of ass amiright?
I like going up to a fine broad and saying: Hey, dollface, you're the cat's meow, the bee's knees, the real McCoy! I'd give you the whole enchilada.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I can't say we're really on the same page on this one.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

LOL
I'm just having a little fun. You know I like to get a little spicy.
I gotta do it for the lulz.

[–] Draytona500 (6) 2 years ago

I doesn’t occur to you, then, that you’re being almost unbelievably self-indulgent, that your juvenilia will never impress anyone worth impressing, and that your wrist might be hurting for a reason?

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Say what homie?
Self-indulgent? lol, you say that like I'm supposed to give a fuck.
As much as some may scoff at my juvenile delight, I find it to be a wickedly pleasurable indulgence. So I'll happily keep on keeping on, letting its devilish delight light up my day.

If you can't handle the spice, then you're in the wrong kitchen.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

FECES IS NO SPICE...COOK UP WHATEVER YOU LIKE UP....IT WILL TASTE LIKE SHIT.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

You have poor taste. Your opinion is irrelevant.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

YOU SPEAK LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD WHO TORTURES SMALL ANIMALS...YOU OPINION OF MY OPINION IS A JOKE.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Preposterous. Your words strike me as lacking in both substance and wit. It might be best to reconsider before spouting such vapid nonsense again.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

AWW...THAT WAS ACTUALLY CUTE...YOU GOT ALL SERIOUS AND EXTRA WELL SPOKEN...GOOD WORK,KIDDO.👍🏾

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Well I wanted to disguise the venom in formal language. You know, to sound more respectful.
It's kind of like being punched by someone wearing a velvet glove.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

I THINK OF YOU AS A TACO BELL EMPLOYEE WITH A CELLPHONE AND TOO MANY BREAKS.

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Lulz. Not even close.
I don't really use my phone for anything internet related. Unless I have to find directions or something.
Desktops all the way.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

LULZ.🙂

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Like you, I don't really do cell phones. I work on a Desktop.

[–] B1cKsurN (17833) 2 years ago

I think he is doing some sort of back-handed if anyone agrees with you, they are bad, and therefore you're bad or something fucking stupid like that.

The real men(the ones the women actually want to have sex with) find it hilarious. This morning I had this really hot blonde following me around the gym for like 2 hours. I kept looking at her and smiling, but she was definitely getting frustrated because I wasn't saying hi to her. I'm thinking 25-26, really tight butt, very perky Cs.

If she's there next week, I'll ask her if she was secretly taping me to try and shame me on instagram lol.

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[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Shit, something similar happened to me on the plane. I was flying to Europe, and I had this nice younger chick sit next to me. Two hours passed by and I didn't say a word to her, and she started to get noticeably frustrated. So I finally broke the ice and started talking to her and she was all smiles. She gave me her phone number and a picture of her self, not a digital picture, a real one. We were flying to the same country but different cities. After a week I called her up and we hooked up. Good times.

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

GEORGE COSTANZA

[–] InquiringMind (2272) 2 years ago

Is that a reference to a particular episode? I used to watch Seinfeld but I never completed the series.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Fair play Draytona500.

I generally find InquiringMind to be a top fellow. He's certainly made me feel more welcome at this site than anyone else has. But as long as you're not being too hostile, I agree about the 'self-indulgence' and 'juvenilia' (albeit not InquiringMind's *specifically*).

[–] Draytona500 (6) 2 years ago

Perhaps I caught him having a bad day? I’ll try to keep an open mind, thanks aye.

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 2 years ago

Can you give examples each of what you mean of what you think is appropriate vs inappropriate?

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Check out the Christina Hendricks page.

There are multiple threads dedicated to referring exclusively to her breasts (e.g. 'Monstrous Cleavage!!', 'flotation devices', 'Like stugging two basketballs in your top' and 'Huge rack').

By all means, talk about how sexy and curvy she is (I agree), but this constant, dehumanising rhetoric of just her breasts is crass and demeaning. I'm a straight guy who will readily admit that he appreciates a physically well-endowed woman as much as any guy, but do we really need multiple threads saying the same thing in the most crude and childish manner possible?

[–] WarrenPeace (2267) 2 years ago

Got it.
Thanx.
Yeah, you won't get that stuff from me.
The only breasts I'm interested in are my girlfriend's.

[–] brux (14840) 2 years ago

I'm sure he appreciates that. ;-)

[–] brux (14840) 2 years ago

It's not really the pleasant, civilized people ( as usual ) that ruin everything.