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Debunked myth about AR-15's


- AR-15's are the same as M-16's

Actually they aren't, M-16's are fully automatic while AR-15's are only semi automatic. Same difference between the Glock 17 and the Glock 18, thus the reason why you only need a purchase permit to buy a Glock 17 (background check takes roughly a week) but need to go through 10 months of red tape and background checks to get a Glock 18.

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Eh, more like people think AR stands for Assault Rifle when it's actually Armalite.

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That also

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true

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Another is this idea that full auto fire is for mowing down scads of children. In fact, it is primarily intended for suppressive fire. To keep the enemy's heads down while infantry maneuvers. If one gets hit, it's just a bonus. Otherwise it is terribly inefficient and ineffective but most people learn what they know from Hollywood and video games. Which is 100% fiction.

I wonder how many frothing at the mouth, gun control true believers even know the difference.

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Exactly and putting it on full auto is going to deplete your ammo in a matter of seconds. Hell even our soldiers barely ever put it on full auto.

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^ yeah that , you're not going to be able to suppress and keep heads down for long on full auto

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It is well known that the M-16 is an AR-15 with selective fire. That was established about seven thousand threads ago. There is really no myth to debunk.

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They aren’t even close to the same thing, sure they may fire the same rounds but that’s about where the similarities end, one is fully automatic while the other is not. One was used by our troops in Vietnam while the other wasn’t (even though the left lies constantly and claims both were). You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Ha ha! I joined the army in May, 1968.
Armalite developed the AR-15, Colt bought the rights and engineered it with selective fire for the military. The big difference is the sear. Most other parts are interchangeable.

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And one is fully automatic while the other is, pretty big difference there.

I bet you deserted and were dishonorable discharged.

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Again, the M-16 features selective fire; the original Stoner rifle did not. The conversion can be made by changing the sear and a few other parts in the lower. There is no myth to be debunked. This is relatively common knowledge.

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Key word: Conversion, the AR-15 is NOT a fully automatic rifle, I have 2 of them and I cannot shoot full auto, shit for brains., I guess by your retarded logic a Glock 17 is a fully automatic pistol.

The left lies when they say the AR-15 is a “weapon of war”, it isn’t. Buying an automatic weapon in this country is not only beyond expensive but you have months of background checks and red tape to cut through.

I also don’t think you were every in the military, you are too much of a pussy.

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And that was never the myth. It is well known that the difference between an AR15 and a M16 is the M-16 features selective fire and the AR-15 does not. The difference is the sear and three or four other parts in the lower. It was the original semi-automatic AR15 that Colt modified to make a M-16. You seem to be under the impression that there is a huge chasm between the rifles. There isn't.

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It is a myth and the left has been lying about it for years by claiming the AR-15 is a “weapon of war”, it isn’t. I said they had similarities but they also have very definite differences and the ability to be fully automatic is pretty legitimate, numb nuts.

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Actually, the only similarity you said you knew about was the ammunition.

"they may fire the same rounds but that’s about where the similarities end,"

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As far as being a “weapon of war” that is the only relevant similarity so yeah my statement was accurate, numb nuts. And yes I realize they both have triggers you idiot.

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It is easy to tell when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. You resort to name calling. That's all you have.

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Coming from you who has thrown profanity ridden tantrums at me not to mention diaper fetishes

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You will not find one profanity ridden tantrum, or any other tantrum, by me when I was discussing Fat Donnie's problems with bowel incontinence. You are the one who injected profanity into the conversations.

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Now you’re trying to backtrack on your own childish temper tantrum , you are such a coward

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You've lost the argument (although with you, I am using the term 'argument' loosely) and now you are back to projection & deflection (which is basically what you've been doing through out the course of this thread).

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Not at all, you attempted to argue with non sequiturs and other logical fallacies and now you’re pitching a fit because you got called out on it. Snowflakes don’t typically like it when people actually challenge them, it’s pretty pathetic.

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The hole gets deeper & the bullshit gets higher.

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Your fragile little feelings aren’t that important, snowflake.

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The hole gets deeper & the bullshit gets higher.

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You concession remains noted and you logical fallacies and deflections are dismissed.

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Also I fully believe you are lying about your service, you are a total disgrace for doing so.

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I've never heard anyone claim on the right or left that a nonmilitary AR15 has selective fire.

Selective fire can be achieved on a AR-15 with an auto sear and three, maybe four other small parts in the lower. That is all Colt engineered to make the original Stoner AR-15 a rifle with selective fire.

I once offered to send you a photocopy of my DD214.

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And a Glock 17 can be converted to full auto as can most guns so is your cults position that all guns are “weapons of war”?

And Diaper Joe has frequently referred to AR-15’s as “weapons of war” so yes he did make that claim.

There is no way I am sending you my address you freak, nor would there be anyway for me to confirm that it’s genuine.

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We do not go to war with Glocks. We are wise enough to use rifles.

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With an extended magazine a Glock 17 can hold 33 rounds, once you convert it to automatic you now have more rounds in your Glock than Vietnam soldiers had. So yes by your cults logic any gun is a “weapon of war”, shit for brains.

Also the military does use Glocks, the 19 is standard issue.

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The 9mm Luger is not even close to being in the same league as the 5.56 mm.

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Now you’re moving the goalpost, you said the Glock wasn’t a “weapon of war” because we don’t go to war with it, now that it’s been proven that’s a lie you are just inventing criteria. Learn how to debate honestly you freak.

I guess now your standard is a shotgun is also a “weapon of war”, quit your non sequiturs and quit inventing your standards as you go along, you’re embarrassing yourself

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I can't speak to whether the Glock 19 is NOW standard issue for a rifleman in an infantry squad. My gut tells me it's not. However, I guarantee you that their primary go to weapon in combat is their rifle. It has always been that way.

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You can’t even keep your own premise straight, go back to retard logic 101 you freak.

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I am not even sure what you are trying to say now.
The only thing I can tell from your "arguments" is that if you truly have a couple of AR15s (which is doubtful), you haven't learned much about them.

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I clearly explained it to you, your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem.

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The only thing you made clear to me is how little you actually know about The Ar-15.

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First you claimed it was a weapon of war because it could be converted into an automatic

Then you backpedaled and said it was a weapon of war because a 5.56 is a powerful round.

You’re in logical fallacy territory, kiddo.

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I have never once made reference to the term "weapon of war" in any discussion related to the AR-15, and I challenge you to find one where I did.

You made the statement that the Ar-15 and the M-16 "are not even close to being the same thing." I simply "debunked" that, as the M-16 is a AR-15 that Colt modified for the military.

As far as the kinetic energy that a 5.56x45 produces versus that of a 9mm Luger, that is only one of the reasons that rifles are a superior choice in combat to a sidearm.

Join the army; you will learn a lot about weapon systems and the benefits are soooooo great. It will be a good experience for you.

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Props to you for staying on point this entire time. OP is being a fucking idiot about this.

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OP is clueless as to anything about ARs.

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I didn’t say you did, your cult did as did Diaper Joe. Now you’re strawmanning me.

They both have an incredibly definite difference, one is semi automatic while the other is fully automatic, that is a HUGE difference, numb nuts.

Yet the military still uses the Glock 19 so by your standards the Glock 19 is a weapon of war.

You were never in the army, quit lying about it it’s disrespectful to our troops who actually did have the balls to serve.

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You seem envious. Believe me, it is nothing to be envious of.

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You’re right that you aren’t anything to be envious of but you are so far off when you say I’m envious of you. Trust me numb nuts you aren’t that important

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You seem to be suffering from Military Service Envy. You & Cadet Bonespurs.

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Not really, just calling you out on your bullshit, there’s nothing to envy about a pathetic loser who lies about being in the military

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That statement doesn't even deserve to be dignified.

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Concession accepted.

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Where you came up with me not dignifying your denigrating bullshit with an argument as a concession, I have no idea. You are the king of deflection.

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Your logical fallacies are dismissed and your concession remains noted.

You seem to have given up so why shouldn’t I?

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The king of deflection.

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Your logical fallacies are dismissed and your concession remains noted.

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More deflection. It's all you have once your bullshit has been called out.

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Your logical fallacies are dismissed and your concession remains noted.

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You are clueless.

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Your logical fallacies are dismissed and your concession remains noted.

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A quick analogy: you can take a 2002 GMC Sierra and install a whole bunch of aftermarket performance parts on it, but when you are done it is still a 2002 GMC Sierra.

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I’ll refer you to my previous comment

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"Ha ha! I joined the army in May, 1968."

So you fought the Commies and are over 70. You should be a Republican then.

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Imattj is a fucking idiot, there was no way he was in the army.

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I did once tell you that it was many many years ago I knew your mom when she was the queen of anal. I graduated HS in '67. In July I will be 73.

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They are still extremely dangerous, designed to kill.

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Yes, that was the original intention of the design.
When the engineering for the AR-15 began in the '50s the idea was that they were to be marketed to the military (lots of money involved in a potential deal like that).
The AR-10 (7.62x51/.308) actually preceded the AR-15. During tests & demos it suffered catastrophic failure & the military went with Springfield's M-14 (which evolved from the M1 Garand and is basically a M1A with selective fire) instead. The M-16 was later deemed to be a better weapon system for the Southeast Asian theater and it wound up replacing the M-14 in Vietnam.

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And just some useless trivia, but the USAF bought the AR-15 (and I specify, it was the AR-15 they bought) before any other branch of the US Military.

the source for that little gem is: "The AR-15 Complete Owner's Guide" by Walt Kuleck with Scott Duff
(c) 2000.

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So is the Brown Bess musket.

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Any gun is “extremely dangerous”, and the M-16 is considerably more dangerous than an AR-15 which is why you have months of background checks to go through in order to buy one.

The intended purpose of the AR15 and the M16 are not the same dingleberry, your cult is lying so they can justify disarming law abiding citizens who didn’t do anything wrong. The Nazis did the same thing.

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You are confusing a background check with a tax stamp purchase.

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Educate yourself nimrod. Every gun you buy there is a background check attached to it

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It's not the background check that takes for ever for an automatic weapon. It is the tax stamp application.

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They also do extensive background checks numb nuts. The process takes almost a year. I went through it when I bought my suppressor so I do know what I’m talking about.

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Bullshit.

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You’re full of shit. Quit listening to the lies the DemoKKKrat cult tires to brainwash you with.

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I don't believe you have anything with a suppressor on it. For that matter, I don't believe you have anything at all.

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I don’t care if you believe me or not, the difference between you and me is I don’t need to seek validation from anonymous strangers on the internet.

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Your posting history contradicts that statement. This whole thread contradicts that statement.

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Not at all, kicking your ass is just entertainment for me, I don’t need validation from strangers on the internet like you do. You must be a pretty lonely person thus the reason you asked for my address.

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Your entire moviechat persona consists of seeking validation for your countless lies and bullshit. But it's not working.

Breaking news: Moviechatuser is debunking a myth that a AR15 does not feature selective fire.
Wow.
What a news flash.
Except everyone & their mother & brother & dog already knew that.
Your next big newsflash can be that unicorns do not actually exist.

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Not at all, my objective is to speak the truth and to try to educate you. Being able to kick your ass is an added minus.

Apparently your cult didn’t know that because they constantly try to tell us that an AR-15 is a “Weapon of war” yet by your own admission they aren’t.

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What's your next big myth to "debunk"?
That the earth is not flat?

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Your cult seems to be stupid enough to believe that so I may have to.

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"Not at all, my objective is to speak the truth and to try to educate you."

You cannot educate anyone on a subject that you've just proved yourself to be clueless about.

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Clearly I am more educated than you are, you apparently learned nothing during your fake military service.

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Ha ha! I have taught you more about the AR-15s that you fantasies about owning in this thread than you learned in your whole lifetime's worth of gun fantasies.

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Your military service is probably really just you playing with your little plastic army men. You are so pathetic.

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How's that imaginary AR with the imaginary suppressor with the imaginary tax stamp working out for you?

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Nice to see you’ve admitted that your military service is a deluded fantasy you invented.

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Ha ha! Tell that to my VA rep. And how about that imaginary background check you needed from your imaginary FFL? LOL!

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First of all even you conceded that I was right about background checks so I have no idea what the fuck you’re babbling about. Secondly you were never in the military, you’re too much of a Pusey to lay down your life for your country.

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But you never needed a background check, except in your imagination, for your imaginary AR! Ha ha ha!!!

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Even you admitted that a background check is required to purchase an AR-15, you were arguing the amount of time it takes which is a non sequitur and a logical fallacy. You can’t even keep your own fallacious argument straight, damn you suck.

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But for your imaginary AR15s with an imaginary suppressor, do you need an imaginary background check? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!

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Go back to playing with your army men, kiddo.

Also more logical fallacies on your part: I never once said I put a suppressor on my AR-15, I guess you just invent new arguments when you can’t debate the current argument, typical libtard.

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Doesn't your imaginary AR have an imaginary threaded barrel for your imaginary suppressor? You know, the one you have an imaginary tax stamp for that needed an imaginary background check?

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And you once again prove you don’t know the first thing about guns. You should know from your imaginary military service.

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I wish that you were my imaginary son. Unfortunately, you are an unintended consequence of a wild night in NC and you exist in real life. But I am sorry I didn't provide guidance for you in your formative years. Perhaps it is not too late; you seem to be still in your formative years.

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I know Mommy wasn’t there for you when your Daddy would touch you but that’s your own damn problem. Get help you freak.

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I accept your concession that there is no need for a DNA paternity test because it is now well known that I am your father. I will continue to ,try to teach you more when the opportunity presents itself. You can thank me later, son.

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I accept your concession that you father loved to fondle you while you slept and your mother was too much of a coward to do anything about. Seriously your life is a fucking Dr. Phil episode, you should write him, I’m sure he’d love to exploit your fucked up life.

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Your mom told me that you were bitter & acting out, & I understand that, son, I was not there for you when you needed me most. I will try to make amends. Do they still make those Mattel M-16 toys that were popular a long time ago? I will get you one of those. I know there used to be a BB gun styled after the AR15, but I do not trust you with one of those yet. I accept your apologies, son, and I will be a better father to you from now on.

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Sounds like your Mommy issues are the reasons for your diaper fetish.

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It won't happen overnight; I understand that depriving you of a father figure did severe emotional damage to you. Hopefully I will not have to spank you, but if I do, you are not supposed to enjoy it.

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Your sick sexual fantasies are not the kind of thing you discuss on an online forum, that should be discussed between you and your therapist.

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Your emotional distress is understandable. I was not there to teach you about the birds and the bees and not to play with Barby Dolls, but toy guns instead. Maybe it is too late for you, son, but as your father it is my responsibility to keep trying.

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I’m sure you used to stick your pee pee into Barbie Dolls when you were just a young kid, if your parents hadn’t been halfway competent they would have gotten you therapy back then and we wouldn’t be in the situation we are today. You may be too fucked up to help.

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It's not too late for you, son, now that I am coming back into your life as the father you were so sadly deprived of, I am sure things will change for the better for you.

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So did kids used to make fun of you because when you farted it smelled like KY Jelly?

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I will mentor you and tutor you and maybe I can somehow make up for all the things you missed out on because you had no father figure (which is my fault). But, son, if you misbehave, I will have to spank you.

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I’m guessing that means they did make fun of you, can’t blame them.

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You must remember that you were the result of an unplanned pregnancy. I was too young to assume the responsibility of fatherhood at the time, and aklthough your mom wanted to get an abortion, I talked her out of it. In retrospct, I now regret that. But, it's too late now, so you and I will just have to make the best of our newfound relationship.

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I’m sure it was frustrating for your parents to have such a pathetic retard as a kid, but at least they got to kick you in the helmet, I’m sure that was fun.

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Your mom blames herself for that extra copy of chromosome 21 you inherited. It sure was not from my side of the family.

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Kick the retard, playing that game was probably the only thing that kept your parents sane while having to deal with your retard shenanigans.

And funny you should mention chromosomes considering you have like 12 extra. Biology doesn't even have a term for you, you freak of nature.

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I was discussing your condition with your mom, and we both think that if I would have been around more, maybe you wouldn't have taken up shopliftig women's underwear.

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I heard you used to lick your own diaper back when you were 5. They eventually had to start duct taping it shut.

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Your mom also told me that you were furious and threw such a tantrum when they would not allow you to recently use your food stamps to buy edible underwear for your boyfriend to wear.

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You need to stop eating your own shit, it can cause blood poisoning and that will reduce the already small amount of time you have left

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Do you have a link for that?

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Just pick up a biology book and actually read it if it's not above your reading level.

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Well, I do have some biology books, but I don't think blood poisoning would be the risk related to eating your own feces. On that I could be wrong, so that's why I requested a link.

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Maybe you should just quit talking about science, you've already demonstrated you don't know the first thing about it (as with many things)

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I am not sure that the ecoli in your own feces would be harmful to you. In other words, if you have ecoli in your own feces, you are already colonized with that strain of ecoli. I think to become septic that it would have to come from someone elses feces. Provide a link, if you have one.

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I have a better idea, why don’t you eat some more shit and find out?

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There are actually people who do that. The only ones I personally know of were in a psych ward. The idea of eating shit, including my own, has a nauseating effect on me. I will leave that for you to experiment with. Report your findings. Another myth to debunk.

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I think you should go ahead and test the experiment on yourself.

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And make sure that you tell that to the VA and see if they cancel my next appointment! Ha ha! I'll be waiting for their phone call!

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"The intended purpose of the AR15 and the M16 are not the same"

Armalite started designing the AR-15 because they intended to market it to the military.
If you are not clear on what the military buys weapons for, I guess I can spell it out for you.

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Weapons of war are automatic rifles, our soldiers do not go into battle with only semi automatics (which AR15s are) therefore they aren’t weapons of war, whether or not they can be converted is a non sequitur

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😱 Oh dear! “Extremely dangerous, designed to kill.” So is the bow & arrow! 🤷🏼‍♀️

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So’s a strategically placed banana skin.

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Hey Wan-King! You are so correct! Instead of tripping someone, watch his/her stride, then throw the slippery banana peels (2) before them! If the person dies after slipping and hitting the ground…well, we have a weapon which is “Extremely dangerous, designed to kill.”

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Not nearly as efficient. That's why the military doesn't use them.

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That's probably why you never heard of someone killing twenty people with a bow and arrow. Honestly, these right wingers, they make these comments and think they are actually being clever.

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Plenty of people have defended themselves and are alive today because of guns, but the Libtards don’t really care about that, they probably would have just preferred that they died.

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"thus the reason why you only need a purchase permit to buy a Glock 17 (background check takes roughly a week)"

Are you sure you've ever actually bought a handgun before? Maybe only in your fantasies?
Where on earth do you live where it takes a week to buy a G17?
The background check in Pa. (for example) for ALL firearms (including Glocks) takes a FFL maybe a half hour at the most. Usually a lot less. In Pa. there's an extra piece of paper ("record of sale") to fill out for a handgun purchase is all.

I don't think you own any guns at all.
You seem to be full of shit on all aspects of firearms you have attempted so far to discuss.

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Ummm I live in a very conservative state and still to buy any weapon you need a pistol purchase permit while is authorized by the Sheriffs Department, it takes about a week.

You don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re a liar.

EDIT: When you say you can buy a Glock in about half an hour, I have a feeling you are referring to the fact that if you have a concealed carry permit you don’t have to obtain a purchase permit, well guess what there is still a background check attached to a concealed carry permit and it takes roughly a month you liar.

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No. In Pa. to buy any legal handgun it takes filling out the paperwork; there is one extra for a handgun versus a long gun. The FFL calls in the background check to the state police. After it goes through the sale can be completed. The background check fee is added to the purchase price. To get a CCW in Pa. you take the paperwork and $20 to the courthouse and go to the sheriff's office and that can go quickly depending on how many they are doing or it could take a few hours.

I don't think you have bought or own any guns.
You are a pretender.

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You are a liar, I live in a more conservative state than you do and we have to go through a week background check to buy any gun. I doubt you’ve even fired a gun in your life, you are just parroting the talking points your cult indoctrinated you with

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Do a google on firearm purchases in Pa. The FFL uses the State Police telephone background check. I have never had one (for a long gun OR a hand gun) take more than 30 minutes. It usually takes longer to fill out the paperwork than do the actual background.

What state do you live in that it takes over a week to get a background done?????
That's another one by you that I am calling bullshit on. Added to a long long list.

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You are definitely lying. In the state I live in (which did vote Trump btw) to buy a gun you have to have either a permit (takes about a week to get one) or a conceal carry (which takes at least a month). It only takes 30 minutes if you have a concealed carry permit and to get one it takes at least a month so they can do…. A BACKGROUND CHECK!!!


This idea that anyone can just walk into a store and buy a gun with no background check is a lie.

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When did I ever say "no" background?
In Pa. the FFL does the state police background check on the telephone.
I've never had one take longer than a 1/2 hour, and I don't remember any of them actually taking that long. The paper work takes longer.
Google Pa. FFL background check and while you are at it, google CCW in Pa.
You've lost another "argument" and you are just digging a deeper hole for yourself & filling it with bullshit.

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Did I say you said that? No but your cult says it. Learn how to read and debate honestly numb nuts.

I don’t believe you for one second that anyone in PA can have a gun in 1/2 an hour with no permit or CCW. You expect me to believe that the gun laws in swing states are more strict than in solidly red states. You are a liar.

No matter what whenever you buy a gun there is a background check that goes along with it.

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It doesn't matter what you believe. That's how it is here. Go to the LGS. Pick out a long gun or a hand gun. Fill out the paperwork. Give paper work to the representative of the FFL at the counter. FFL calls into the Pa. State Police background check line. Background goes through. Pay for long gun or handgun and background check. Walk away with long gun or hand gun. Filling out the paperwork is the most time consuming part of the procedure.

You have a computer and I assume you know how to use a search engine. maybe I am giving you too much credit. Look it up.

And you still haven't told me what goofy state you live in where it takes "over a week" for a background check. Tell me and I'll google it.

Or don't. Be a coward.

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You are lying, not to mention retarded if you seriously expect me to believe that gun laws in a Northern Swing State are less strict than gun laws in a center right state. Before I got my concealed carry permit I had to obtain a purchase permit from the Sheriffs Office which took about a week. But can I really expect the cult who asserted that you can buy an automatic weapon on amazon do be honest?

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Do you know how to use google?
If so, google it.
And again, what goofy state do you live in? I'd like to call your bullshit with a google on backgrounds there.

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Actually now that I’ve reread this thread the length of time it takes for a gun purchase is irrelevant because my premise was every purchase requires a background check (which you have conceded to).

I guess when libtards get backed into a corner they just change the discussion (hoping the other person won’t catch onto it).

As for me saying you need a purchase permit to buy a gun: https://www.manninglaw.com/blog/north-carolina-gun-laws-explained/. There you go, when I did it the background check took about a week. Now I’m sure you’ll point out that it says you don’t need one to buy a rifle, but when I mentioned the permit I specifically singled out a Glock 17 which you do need one for.

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Show where I once said a purchase didn't require ba FFL to do a background.
You can't.
I just called you on that week to 10 days bullshit. You said that because you have no clue because you've never bought a gun.

What state do you live in?
I want to google it.

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So then you agree with me when I say your cult is full of shit when they claim that guns can be purchased with no background check?

And I posted a link, learn to read you moron.

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Again: what state do you live in.

And as a matter of fact, private transactions for long guns do not require a FFL background. And as a matter of fact, In Tn., private transactions for handguns don't need one either.

But that is beside the point.
Where in God's name do you live that it takes a week to 10 days to "buy a Glock"?????????????????????????

Ha ha! Nowhere! That's where.

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I posted a link you idiot. And do you seriously not know how long a week is? It’s not 10 days you fucking idiot.

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I don't see in that link where it states a waiting period for a background in NC. Regardless, you don't need any permit in Pa. to buy a handgun, you just have to pass a background which is done by the FFL over the phone. It is the same in Vt. for a handgun. NC is truly an ass backwards state, and I am sure you fit in well. I was at RDU for a year--I am glad I moved.

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It says quite clearly you need a purchase permit, I went through the process and it took about a week. Since I live in the state I think I would know better than you would. I also never said there was a mandated waiting period, I said the process takes about a week (some counties move faster than others).

So you agree that guns laws are ass backwards? Because according to your premise we have stricter gun laws than you do. Damn you can’t even keep your own position straight.

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immattj is no expert and if he's not lying about his age, I'd be shocked. Because he acts like a stupid teenager. I have him on my ignore list so I had to log off to read all the responses here.

In fact, Eugene Stoner developed the 7.62x51 AR10 as a military weapon and it was selective fire. It was turned down by the military but two other engineers adapted the design to the .223/5.56 cartridge as the AR15. Which was also selective fire. It was meant to compete with the AK47 so why would it not be selective fire? That was not something done later by Colt as he posted. Obviously, it didn't receive the "M" designation as the M16 until after the military adopted it. So yes, the original AR15 was selective fire. However, it is an accurate generalization to say that the AR15 is semi-auto while the M16/M4 is selective fire. Colt bought the rights to the AR15 and sold the M16/M4 to the military, while marketing the semi-auto AR15 to civilians.

No, the AR15 is not a weapon of war because we've allowed the military to have access to guns that we do not. Which is unconstitutional but that's an argument for another day.

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Yeah he claims to be some old geezer yet my 2 year old niece is more mature than he is. There is no way that moron was ever in the military. Not only does he not know what he’s talking about but the military would never accept such a pathetic loser. He has some kind of weird obsession with me, he keeps following me to every thread I post on, it’s quite disturbing

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That's probably because I blocked him. He did the same thing to me. Doesn't even argue, just spews insults. There's no way he's a 73yr old veteran. Please note that Keeliar spewed the same lie last week.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s really KKKeelais sock account.

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The freak even asked for my address

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For what reason???

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He said he wanted to send me fabricated proof he was in the military. The guy is a complete psycho

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Piss on that. I wouldn't give any of these psychos any personal information.

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Oh don’t worry I didn’t, I am considering reporting him for trying to get my address from me.

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I would. Nobody wants to be molested in the middle of the night by a deranged liberal. They carry diseases and cry a lot.

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Libtards are so damn crazy they are capable of anything. The sick freak probably would try to molest me.

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Never turn your back on one!

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Lil Craigy was molested in his single wide. But there it's not really considered molestation, it's considered incest and is a typical trailer park date.

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No 73 year old would make a post like this.

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Possibly a 73 YO would not, but I am 72 and I am proud of this accurate post. And Lil Craigy will not dispute the validity of this post because he knows it to be true.

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You're a child.

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You have got to be moviechatuser666's sock.

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🙄

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My DD214 is not "fabricated."

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Quit lying to yourself. You need to get out of this alternate fantasy you’ve brainwashed yourself with.

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I am not going to say that you are a gutless coward because you never served; I am not even going to say that you are a gutless coward because you denigrate the service of those who did; I am saying that there are many other reasons that make you a gutless coward.

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Another strawman, I never denigrated the people who served, I denigrate radical libtards who lie about serving as a means to gain some kind of moral authority.

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My military service gives me no claim to ant moral authority whatsoever, and again, I challenge you to show where I ever said it did.

You were spouting off a bunch of no nothing bullshit about AR 15s and M-16s and I simply pointed out to you that I had been trained on the weapon before you were born. That's a fact despite all the bullshit you are going to respond with.

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You haven’t been trained on anything nor were you in the military. I seem to have struck a nerve with you, you seem quite agitated. You made up lies about you serving in the military because you were hoping I would stop debating you on gun laws, sadly for you that didn’t work.

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I have nothing to prove to you, but I've offered to anyway.

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You are so utterly pathetic, your life sucks so badly you have to invent your own little fantasies.

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You are the one who with fantasies. The fantasies of being a gun owner & knowing anything about them.

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Yet I clearly know more about them than you do, all you know is the misinformation your cult brainwashes you with.

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All you've managed to do with this thread is to illustrate how little you do know about them.

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Get out of your cult and get a real education. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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72 is hardly an old geezer; however I probably graduated HS before you were born. You do seem to have a bad case of military service envy. Probably not the only kind of envy you suffer from.

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You’re probably really 14, trying to act tough on the internet. No 72 year old (especially a veteran) is going to behave the way you do. If you really are who you claim you are then you need therapy

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If my internet behavior comes off 14 years old, yours would indicate you are still in the fetal stage.

And I challenge you to find one post where I claimed to be some kind of tough. That's for you & Lil Craigy.

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Me saying you act like a 14 year old is generous on all counts.

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Which, again, is the pot calling the kettle black.
And also again: where did you come up with the notion that 72 year olds should behave a certain way on the internet or that your perception of maturity was ever a requirement for military service? Especially in 1968? My internet posts are tame as compared to Fat Donnie's goofy tweets, and he's a few years older than I am.

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It’s common sense, numb nuts. When you get older you’re supposed to grow up instead of acting like a prepubescent child.

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That means you must still be in infancy.
Fat Donnie must be in the prenatal stage.

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Not really, I act like a mature adult, you act like a kid pitching a fit because Mommy won’t buy him a toy.

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If you honestly think what you do on this board exemplifies adult maturity, you have been taking too many lessons from Fat Donnie. Wow.

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I am a mature adult, I am also an objective, impartial observer.

You however are a brainwashed cultist who is acting like a child.

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And out of curiosity, where did you get the notion that maturity was a prerequisite for military service? Especially in 1968? That is one of your most laughable posts yet.

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I never laid claim to being an expert, although much of my knowledge about the AR-15/M-16 I obtained from experts. When I need a good laugh, I just click on one of Lil Craigy's posts. As far as spewing insults? Ha ha! That's the pot calling the kettle black.

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Everyone is laughing at Donald Trump as these bullets shatter brains from children in school or adults in Walmart.

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You think children dying is funny? And the Demokkkrats could have funded additional security for schools but they blocked it despite the fact that they get their own personal tax payer funded security force all armed with guns. Diaper Joe should lead by example and give up his secret service protection and instead send them to defend our children

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