Good analysis I must say. I too feel like the left has shifted more left but the right as well when they broke away from classic GOP with the election of Trump and the bashing of McCain and now labeling other GOP members as RINO's which never happened before. It's more radical on the left and extremist on the right, more degenerates on the left and cultists on the right.
Musk is a liar and a propagandist now ... I don't think his purchase should be allowed to go through.
A blind man could see and prove that the Right has gotten so extreme there is a storm wind to the Left that has blown people like Megan McCain and other moderate Republicans to the point where they are detested and branded traitors and RINOs, etc.
I see Musk as evil now, he is not just evil but preparing to do great evil to this country. The Right has been taking over this country with technology and money for 40+ years, and it has gone into hyperdrive now.
I pedal my OS X and Linux.
Microsoft was hated and still is by real computer people.
Apple has become just as bad though with its surveillance and boxing people in and charging them at every turn.
not how society works Einstein. you have to work within its parameters.
should people who were against kings and the feudal system have given up their clothes and agricultural equipment because the were made and forged by blacksmiths part of the feudal system?
Check out the book "The Great Leveler: Violence and the History of Inequality from the Stone Age to the Twenty-First Century (The Princeton Economic History of the Western World Book 69)" by Walter Scheidel.
Publisher's Summary
Are mass violence and catastrophes the only forces that can seriously decrease economic inequality? To judge by thousands of years of history, the answer is yes. Tracing the global history of inequality from the Stone Age to today, Walter Scheidel shows that inequality never dies peacefully. Inequality declines when carnage and disaster strike and increases when peace and stability return. The Great Leveler is the first book to chart the crucial role of violent shocks in reducing inequality over the full sweep of human history around the world.
Ever since humans began to farm, herd livestock, and pass on their assets to future generations, economic inequality has been a defining feature of civilization. Over thousands of years, only violent events have significantly lessened inequality. The "Four Horsemen" of leveling - mass-mobilization warfare, transformative revolutions, state collapse, and catastrophic plagues - have repeatedly destroyed the fortunes of the rich.
Scheidel identifies and examines these processes, from the crises of the earliest civilizations to the cataclysmic world wars and communist revolutions of the 20th century. Today, the violence that reduced inequality in the past seems to have diminished, and that is a good thing. But it casts serious doubt on the prospects for a more equal future.
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The bottom line is that following the rules that are initially set up by the elites, and that over time morph to favor them more and more is a recipe for slavery and fascism - like you ignorant Republicans fail to grasp. Democracy and changes resulted in out of band actions, virtually never from talking or voting.
you missed my point but thats fair it could be misunderstood.
Satan said " Destroy all your computers and pedal that bicycle."
meaning "oh you don't like capitalism, destroy technology it created and revert to a bicycle if you hate capitalism so much.
my point was that dumb logic could be applied to anyone criticizing any society/system in history, whether it was feudalism or slavery in the south
they could have said "how you don't like kings and the feudal system?!?! Give up your clothes and agricultural equipment because the were made and forged by blacksmiths part of the feudal system!! build your own system start forging your own metal"
my comment was we live within the society/system we are in and have to operate like that. and if we criticize that type of system, we don't have to start from scratch. abandon all technology and goods created that system and start making our own clothes and cars and computers from scratch outside that system before we are in any position to criticize that.
you can live in a system and criticize it and try and improve it, without having to abandon all technological/ material goods from it. because we have to live in that system. I cant abandon capitalism and the parliamentary system in my country, then somehow change it. im outside the system and rules, except of course by an armed insurrection
I can get it wasn't clear. but you should calm down. I thought youd have seen enough of my comments to know my leanings by now
Technology is not capitalism any more or less than anything else. The issue is far to complex to support Satan2016's comments, which like his name are usually stupid.
> my point was that dumb logic could be applied to anyone criticizing any society/system in history, whether it was feudalism or slavery in the south
A stupid reply, and irrelevant. You attack logic with a statement about dumb logic. Logic is not dumb, and if you cannot articulate a reply or argument, STFU. Pretty much a Conservative tactic these days.
People don't identify your "brand" like you think they do, and it doesn't dismiss you from having to make an argument, which all the other blather in your last comment fails to do, again, unless you are arguing with the straw man in your own head.
you aren't making any sense. rather than manning up and admitting you misread/ you8 needed more clarification, you are doubling down.
Technology is not capitalism any more or less than anything else
I never said it was. I said satans comment about not using/buying certain things because you dislike the system its produced in makes no sense
The issue is far to complex to support Satan2016's comments, which like his name are usually stupid.
I didnt agree with his comment. I said the opposite and criticized it
A stupid reply, and irrelevant. You attack logic with a statement about dumb logic. Logic is not dumb, and if you cannot articulate a reply or argument, STFU. Pretty much a Conservative tactic these days.
are you fucking stupid? you are so desperate to argue you see red everywhere
People don't identify your "brand" like you think they do, and it doesn't dismiss you from having to make an argument, which all the other blather in your last comment fails to do, again, unless you are arguing with the straw man in your own head.
wtf are you talking about. no straw man. no brand. i'm simply calling out the lack of logic in his statement. should I explain it to you for a fourth time?
this isn't hard. take a breather,. calm down. reread my comment. and possibly seek anger management.
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I did. its why my comment was to satan. then you jumped in, saying I agree with him and saying I said things I didnt. are you this stupid buddy??? LOLOLL this was a really embarrassing exchange for you
If you are trying to make me angry, and declaring success, you failed. What makes you think anything you can say here would make me angry? Are you kidding? That's just another sign of a troll.
Do you realize your words mean zilch? No one takes you seriously. As long as you continue to refer to people who disagrees with you as EVIL you will be dismissed. You and I are on the opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I would never refer to you as EVIL. Hitler was EVIL. Pol Pot was EVIL. Stalin was EVIL. Saddam was Evil. Osama was Evil. Being a Conservative/Republican does not make one EVIL. I’ll even throw in some Democrats as not being EVIL to make you happy.
Oh shut up. You cannot claim that no one takes me seriously - more likely no one takes a liar like you seriously ... because your constant lies make you evil.
Just because you ignore or disagree with me when I've documented your lies doesn't mean they don't exist ... and trying to make it so, to work your BS outside of a logical and reasoned fact based argument make your dishonest, and in a political sense, evil in that you work to undermine other people's political rights.
Fact is I do - from reading the factual reports. You sure like to shoot your mouth off and prove you are uninformed and uncivilized. Like ... check out Trump's own election commission.
the thing is I'm not an ahole enough to claim superiority ( probably in everything ) over you, but I'm confident it's there, because I know how to argue, and that the boring false assumption of authority always is the main core of any of you moronic Right-Wingers arguments - and it can in general just always be dismissed, like the intelligent villagers dismissed the calls of the little boy who cried wolf. You Right-Wingers are stuck at that adolescent boy's gym class anti-intellectual level.
Another mistake you make, just to point it out, is that most Democrats are in favor of voter ID; the good side compared to the bad side of most Republicans who are in favor voter suppression and election rigging these days - judged by their support for leaders who implement these anti-American votes.
Imagine going back to 2005 and telling people about trans children, 56 genders and schools teaching that being on time is White supremacy. Who has become extreme?
I've never heard of anyone but Republicans talk about 56 genders. No one takes that seriously, but it should be considered. The most evil and dishonest thing going on is the continual lying or even inventing nonsense to pin on Democrats by Republicans ... that is extreme and evil too.
What is wrong about talking about "trans" children, whatever it is that means to you. Some children are born with weird bodies that do not conform to normal ideas of gender. Why should they not have rights and a place in society with respect? What is wrong with you bullies who are always looking for some group to pick on, as if you are perfect, or even normal, or even just a little bit sub-normal.
What planet are you living on? This 45345 genders has been a staple of left wing ideology for about 7 years now. It's not a straw man argument. Facebook officially has something like 34 gender to chose from.
There's no reason anyone should transition before they are 18. I believe the data shows a large percent of people with so called gender dysphoria outgrow it by the time they're older. Castrating children and putting them on hormones can have serious permanent damage on their bodies. Left wing trans activists and other ideologues want more people to become trans because that's the way they believe is to achieve a "tolerant" society. That's why they are preying on children and trying to convince them they are trans. That should be illegal.
I also could have mentioned men pretending to be women competing in female sports and blowing away all competition. If you were to show that to people in 2005 they would throw up.
> There's no reason anyone should transition before they are 18.
How do you know?
> Castrating children and putting them on hormones can have serious permanent damage on their bodies.
This is the kind of thing they used to do. Unethical doctors used to have a field day with surgeries on these children. That was back in the day when NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT.
Now they talk about it, and try to apply the best rules and judgement they can can you Right-Wingers go off the rails complaining about it. You never said anything before you think it is another issues you can exaggeration into hysteria in order to ignore the real issues of the upcoming primaries.
By the way, castrating is a loaded term, meaning removing the testes of an animal - that's another way to tell you are not seriously discussing the issue.
> Left wing trans activists and other ideologues want more people to become trans because that's the way they believe is to achieve a "tolerant" society.
Dumbest thing I've heard. Ridiculous.
> I also could have mentioned men pretending to be women competing in female sports and blowing away all competition.
I don't think this is right or fair, but again, framing it the way you do is dishonest and hateful. I think it is the people who run the sports organizations are the ones you need to focus on here, not Left Wing trans activists, whatever that means. Trans activists are not a wing of the Democratic party, not a Left-wing thing. You are just trying to mock Left wing people trying to stand up for oppressed people's rights. You folks can't get anything right except to pick up on the most hateful and obnoxious way to frame things in order to confused the issue.
How do I know? Because many of them (if not majority) grow out of it. I have already said that, moron. Do you I have to repeat myself because you're too stupid to understand?
No, it's not ridiculous. The higher the LGBT population, the more acclimated society becomes to tem, the more "tolerant" society will become. They are well aware of that. LGBT activists want as many people as possible to be LGBT. Have you seen the latest video by SF Gay men's chorus? They're literally bragging how "Gen Z is gayer than GRINDR".
People who run sports organizations cave into pressure of trans activists. And I've never heard anything more stupid than saying that trans activists are not left wing or Democrats. Trans people are not oppressed you imbecile. If sexual reassignment surgery was illegal then trans people would be oppressed. They want to re-define biology and common sense and force their ideology and language upon society. This is about transsexual supremacy.
The right is shifting 'back' to the right because we're tired of dirtbag career politicians more worried about their own career and net worth than the American people. Yeah, I'm talking about shitbags like McConnell, McCain, Romney and others. I pity the fool who thinks personal responsibility, small gov't, less debt and protecting the Constitution are extremist ideals. Makes me think they're up to something.
TQ’s mind is not only tiny…it’s warped. Anyone whose ideology is different from his is…EVIL! To his warped mind since you’re EVIL you are a RACIST, a NAZI, and any other scum of the earth. TQ is such a shallow person. Hitler thought the Jews were EVIL. Do you suppose TQ is kin to the true EVIL one?
This ^^^^👏🏻👏🏻 I could not have said it better! To me they are Elitist Republicans who stick their fingers in the air to tell which way the wind is blowing. They need to determine if that wind will benefit them! Although I was dismayed over what Trump said about John McCain, to be honest it was disgusting, I recall McCain was the Democrat’s favorite Republican.
It was in poor taste, like a lot of the crap that comes out of Trump but a lot of us were thinking it. McCain got a free pass from many conservatives because he was a POW. When he really shouldn't have.
That said, what I loved and I assume a great many others as well, is that whatever came out of Trump, was Trump. Good or bad, sink or swim, you never wondered what the sumbitch thought. He told you. As opposed to the highly polished, written by a committee bullshit and downright lies we're accustomed to hearing out of politicians.
As another enemy of the left once said “You betcha!” Damn, they despised that woman! The leftists and SNL looked upon her as something they would scrape off their shoes! That is pure unadulterated hatred! Then Trump came along and she fell into 2nd place. 🤷🏼♀️
When it was announced he was buying Twitter and liberals were freaking out, I was baffled. I was like, didn't he say he voted for Obama? I looked it up and true enough he did. He also stepped down from a position within the Trump cabinet because of Trump's comments over climate change. This portrayal to portray him as some alt-right loon is totally disingenuous, but not surprising. That's just what liberals do now. Agree with them or you are the enemy.
He just wants everyone to be able to have a real debate of our ideas like any liberal minded person does who supports our First Amendment, the way it always was. The Left wants to censor and label any idea outside of their own ideology as "mis/disinformation which is totalitarian. The Left has really amped up the importance of feelings and have lost their grasp on logic and reason in debates.
The stick figure is correct. I was always right of center and moderate per early 90's politics, I voted for Clinton in '92, but now I'm far right extremist with the same views, lol?