What Was Da Point of Jesus Dying For Our Sins if We Just Kept Doing More After He Died lol?
Please advise. I never went to church
sharePlease advise. I never went to church
shareHis priests are there to take your confession (and tithes) every time a sinner such as yourself goes to church or for confession. It's quite a racket, I must say.
shareHmmm...intriguing
shareThis is abhorrently incorrect. First of all, Priests and Confession are part of Catholicism. Catholics do not worship Jesus, and do not see him as their Lord, and Savior.
They acknowledge he existed, but Catholic and Christian are not interchangeable terms.
Catholics worship what they call ' The Holy Trinity ' which is God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost. So yes they do worship Jesus.
He died because he was causing a ruckus. "Died for our sins" is a narrative created by his followers.
shareOr what was the point of Jesus dying for "our" "sins" in the first place ? How is that regarded in any way as being a rational response as opposed to a batshit crazy one let alone being the basis for a "new" religion ? It reminds me of the Judean People's Front committing suicide to show their solidarity for Brian on the cross ( Monty Python's Life of Brian ).
batshit crazy one let alone being the basis for a "new" religion
Islam is a religion made by and for Arab barbarians in around 700 AD and nothing much has changed since then. Christianity on the other hand was one of the foundation stones of Western Civilization.
It's very simple... you shouldn't need it explained to you.
He didn't literally die for anyone's sins at the time of his execution. It's a symbolic statement. People are going to sin, it's going to happen. You can't punish people for every little infraction...its stupid, unnecessary, and Jesus knew this. So knowing he was going to be put to death, he made sure his followers knew that his death would take the place of any punishments described in the Bible, and they would be forgiven by God if they acknowledged and owned them.
Does that help?
What is the difference between ( He didn't literally die for anyone's sins at the time of his execution ) and (...he made sure his followers knew that his death would take the place of any punishments described in the Bible. ) ?
Aren't they effectively the same thing ? Or to put it another way don't those two statements of yours contradict each other ? Because first you say Jesus didn't die for our sins then you say his death would remove punishments presumably for our sins.
His message wasn't for the people living in his time...he was alive then. People knew what he was saying to them. He didn't need to die for their sins in the literal sense because they knew him as a man. The message was for any followers after his death for the disciples pass on. People of significance almost always take on a bigger presence in death, in the eyes of the living, after they have passed on... look at Elvis. People STILL think he is alive to this day.
Jesus also knew some humans are just shit, and want to inflict physical harm on them for any reason. What better way to do that than to follow the 1st Testament? Jesus wanted his followers to be able to be forgiven for their sins without having to be punished or having to confess them. He wanted his followers to love him, not fear him(are you understanding the differences between Christians and Catholics yet?).
Aren't they effectively the same thing?