There shouldn't be vaccine mandates for a vaccine that repeatedly FAILS. One astute reader commented that the articles never mention underlying conditions when an unvaccinated person dies of covid.
Like masks, getting the vaccine or five booster shots makes people think they are safe. People are still living their lives off the old definition of vaccine, which was quietly updated while no one was watching.
I only trust the individual stories since I believe the stats/metrics are usually manipulated. Too much is at stake. Bonuses are usually awarded based on the numbers. The articles below show that NY and FL have had covid data reporting issues. The other article highlights inaccuracies in various countries' covid reporting.
Throughout your article you linked to, it says the couple had 'pre-existing conditions' and 'underlying health conditions' repeatedly. Trumptards have been saying for over a year it's the 'pre-existing conditions' which kill people, not COVID.
My main point is that vaccine mandates should not be implemented when the vaccine does not provide 100% protection. Initially, the vaccines were supposed to prevent infection and transmission. Once the vaccine failed to provide that level of protection, the vaccines were promoted for their ability to prevent hospitalization and death. We now see that these vaccines do not prevent hospitalization and death so they should not be mandatory.
There is a lot of money being made by these supposed vaccines and this is just the beginning. mRNA technology can be used for any number of conditions. Big pharma wants to make lots of money by using mRNA technology for other ailments. Big pharma will also reward the politicians and government officials with campaign contributions and jobs.
My main point is that vaccine mandates should not be implemented when the vaccine does not provide 100% protection.
And which vaccine does ? We are mandated to have many vaccines as children before we enter school, and everyone has been fine with that. Yet no vaccine - none - is 100% in providing protection to everyone who has taken it. So why all this resistance - other than political statements - with the Covid vax?
Also, car seatbelts are mandated in every state in the USA, except NH. They do not provide 100% protection from injury or death, as many people involved in car accidents have been killed or injured while wearing a seat belt. Yet, the anti-vaxxers are fine with this - they have no problems wearing a seatbelt if they wish to drive in the other 49 states. Where's the outrage ? Where's the pushback on mandatory seatbelts?
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As I said in the post you mistakenly responded to:
"We are mandated to have many vaccines as children before we enter school, and everyone has been fine with that. Yet no vaccine - none - is 100% in providing protection to everyone who has taken it. "
Try to keep up, if you want to join an adult conversation.
Try acting like an adult and not some whiny child.
Are you really saying the covid vaxx is more effective than polio or measles? I think you should listen to what JoeJ said below and stop pulling bullshit out of your ass
Polio is 100% but it does appear that many of them are not 100%. MMR provides 97% protection against measles/rubella while mumps is only 88%. These vaccines have been tested over time and there haven't many major side effects. The covid vaccines have not been adequately tested and the side effects are unknown. There is also a debate about whether the mRNA covid vaccines are actually vaccines instead of gene therapy.
I would say that seatbelts have been adequately tested over time. There isn't much of a debate over side effects of wearing a seat belt. There are still plenty of people who don't like wearing seatbelts. I'd prefer to stay on topic instead of addressing various forms of whataboutism.
Despite being adequately tested over time, seatbelts are not 100% effective, yet no one rallies against the mandate.
This is on topic, not what aboutism. I don't think it's possible to have a conversation about a mandated safety precaution such as the COVID vaccine and not bring in other vaccines or safety measures which have been mandated over the years. AS I've asked before - is the resistance political for the COVID vax or is it habitual where the person has long opposed mandated safety measures ?
According to the CDC, Polio and HPV are close to 100%. While my polio link states it can be 100%, many experts do say that vaccines are never 100%. The problem with these mRNA vaccines is that they lose efficacy quickly so there is no reason to force everyone to take the vaccine. The main argument now is that the vaccines prevent hospitalization/death but a small percentage of people with covid are hospitalized or die. They are also usually the people who are overweight/old with underlying conditions. The third article states that the Kaiser study showed the Pfizer vaccine efficacy rate dropped to 47% after five months from 88% in first month.
The seatbelt protests were back in the eighties and nineties. Most of the states passed seatbelt laws by the nineties. The penalty for not wearing a seatbelt is under $100 but the penalty for the unvaccinated is termination from employment, ineligibility for unemployment benefits, bans from venues and more is to come. There is no comparison between the seatbelt laws and the vaccine mandates.
Single stories are meaningless without actual stats. It's like posting people dying from car crashes for wearing a seatbelt vs how many it's actually saved. Herman Cain Award.
Anyway, yeah, underlying conditions won't really help you live better either. Just goes to show how shitty American health system is with a 33xm population compared to China/India numbers.
Herman Cain Award is a reddit sub that celebrates people dying from covid and not getting the vaxx. So that whole sub is ok but this couple is pointless
I only rely on individual stories since the stats/metrics are easily manipulated. I never trust gov/corp numbers since bonuses are awarded based on the numbers. The articles below show reporting issues in FL and NY. I would never believe anything coming from China.